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No PTV's On United P.S.?  
User currently offlineFlyguy595 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 54 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

How come they re did the entire aircraft for these routes but neglected to put in TV's for the long haul.

Is it also true that the lie flat beds aren't truly lie flat?

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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Quoting Flyguy595 (Thread starter):
How come they re did the entire aircraft for these routes but neglected to put in TV's for the long haul.

It was probably cheaper to give DVD players to the F and B customers than put PTVs in.


User currently offlinePlanecrazy2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3939 times:

Quoting Flyguy595 (Thread starter):
Is it also true that the lie flat beds aren't truly lie flat?

The F seats are lie flat, but at an angle.



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User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2214 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 1):
It was probably cheaper to give DVD players to the F and B customers than put PTVs in.

Wonder how many of those DVD players go missing on each flight. Back in the SR days of handing them out on the MD11s for longhaul flights quite a substantial amount would vanish (1-2 on average per flight).


User currently offlineSking11 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3878 times:

It's written on the DVD players and the actual DVDs that come with it that these aren't compatible with any other equipment. Meaning you can't steal a DVD and play it in your player at home and no regular DVD can be played in the players. The flights attendants are real good at keeping inventory and retrieving them at the end of the flight.

User currently offlineTozairport From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3755 times:

Quoting Planecrazy2 (Reply 2):
The F seats are lie flat, but at an angle.

True, but the airplane flys in cruise at about 3-4 degrees ANU, so the seats are very close to flat than the angle of the seat would seem. They are very comfortable while enroute, IMHO.



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

Quoting Sking11 (Reply 4):
It's written on the DVD players and the actual DVDs that come with it that these aren't compatible with any other equipment. Meaning you can't steal a DVD and play it in your player at home and no regular DVD can be played in the players.

Maybe it's because I've become overly cynical, but I wonder if that warning is actually backed up by technology? Personally, I hate to say it, but I would find that more of a challenge than a threat. I don't think I would walk off the aircraft with one, because that would just plain be wrong...but I certainly think I would try one of the DVDs that travels with me in the player and I would try one of their DVDs in my laptop, "just to check".

Lincoln



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User currently offlinePlanecrazy2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3726 times:

Quoting Tozairport (Reply 5):
True, but the airplane flys in cruise at about 3-4 degrees ANU, so the seats are very close to flat than the angle of the seat would seem. They are very comfortable while enroute, IMHO.

Do you prefer the First or Business seat?



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User currently offlineSparkingWave From South Korea, joined Jun 2005, 674 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

What's the point of stealing a DVD player on PS when you could just go out and get one yourself? If you could afford a PS ticket, then buying your own player would not be a big deal. Only a klepto or a cheapskate (who probably couldn't fly PS in the first place) would resort to such a tactic.


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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3660 times:

Quoting SparkingWave (Reply 8):
What's the point of stealing a DVD player on PS when you could just go out and get one yourself? If you could afford a PS ticket, then buying your own player would not be a big deal. Only a klepto or a cheapskate (who probably couldn't fly PS in the first place) would resort to such a tactic.

actually, way more bathrobes and towels get stolen from luxury hotels than from simple ones....



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User currently offlineCch362 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

Lincoln

The DVD player comes in a "portfolio" complete with the month's selection of (ten) movies. There is also the noise canceling headset. The pursor checks them out as they are handed to the passengers, and before arrival, checks them back in, so stealing would be nearly impossible, save maybe the DVDs themselves.

There is no PTV on ps because UA did it on the cheap during bankruptcy, when they retired the 762s. It was a brilliant move nevertheless because yields have increased substantially.


User currently offlineMax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 6):
Maybe it's because I've become overly cynical, but I wonder if that warning is actually backed up by technology? Personally, I hate to say it, but I would find that more of a challenge than a threat. I don't think I would walk off the aircraft with one, because that would just plain be wrong...but I certainly think I would try one of the DVDs that travels with me in the player and I would try one of their DVDs in my laptop, "just to check".

Yes, they are backed by technology. DVDs are regionalized (see this website for more information - http://www.hometheaterinfo.com/dvd3.htm). For example, US/Canada is Region 1 while China is Region 6. Airlines and cruise ships get region 8.

Normal DVD players are set for one particular region and cannot play discs from other regional discs. The DVD player's region and the disc region MUST match. However, there are DVD players out there you can buy which are multi-region; meaning they will play airplane DVDs. Although you aren't going to find these 'special' DVD players in a Best Buy or similar electronics store.

[Edited 2006-11-30 16:48:44]


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User currently offlineUnited777atGU From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

With respect to Max999's post: I remember using a DVD-playing program on my computer, but I don't recall which it was (Windows Media player, or Realplayer, or something--I think it was on my mac...maybe it was some program I downloaded from the internet), but it allowed me to play any DVD from any region. Catch is that they give you only 8 times to watch a DVD from any region. After the 8th time, you have to select a region--and it's final. From then on, you must use the DVD corresponding to the region you selected. I wonder why this is so?


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31237 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3419 times:
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p.s. First uses the SQ SpaceBed seat, without the KrisWorld IFE, of course.

User currently offlineMax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3361 times:

Quoting United777atGU (Reply 12):
From then on, you must use the DVD corresponding to the region you selected. I wonder why this is so?

I believe the part of the idea for regions was to prevent privacy. To make sure the system is airtight, they want to lock people into regions.



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User currently offlineTozairport From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3293 times:

Quoting Planecrazy2 (Reply 7):
Do you prefer the First or Business seat?

I personally have not travelled in the business seat, only the first seat. I have heard some say the first seat is a bit hard, but I have not found that to be the case.



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User currently offlineFlyguy595 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

Does coach get the DVD's as well or can they purchase them? Do they still have the overhead monitors for viewing?

User currently offlineRiddlePilot215 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3122 times:
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Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 1):
It was probably cheaper to give DVD players to the F and B customers than put PTVs in.

It is.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but PTV installations run somewhere in what, 3,000 smackers per seat? A decent handheld DVD player from Best Buy....like 450 bucks...... I see the economic savings already!



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31237 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3075 times:
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Quoting Flyguy595 (Reply 16):
Does coach get the DVD's as well or can they purchase them? Do they still have the overhead monitors for viewing?

Video IFE in Economy remains the single-channel overhead CRTs.


User currently offlineLogos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 794 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

Quoting RiddlePilot215 (Reply 17):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but PTV installations run somewhere in what, 3,000 smackers per seat? A decent handheld DVD player from Best Buy....like 450 bucks...... I see the economic savings already!

$450? Which Best Buy are you shopping at? Those personal DVD players are topping out at around $150 these days. Not a bad way to make a virtue out of necessity by UA. They probably carry spares as well which is an advantage vs. a balky IFE unit at your particular seat.

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