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A380 Causes Delays At SYD  
User currently offlineLumus From Australia, joined Jan 2006, 8 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12216 times:

Hi all!

A close friend of mine who works at Qantas was chatting to me today about the A380 performing its testing at SYD the other day. He told me that there were massive problems with it being at the terminal because the air bridges weren't lining up properly, and that due to its size (or position on the apron) other jets were delayed for over 4 hours because they couldn't taxi past.

Was anyone else at the airport (working or spotting) who can confirm this for me? If its true, SYD has some major rethinking of its terminals me thinks!

Cheers!!!

[Edited 2006-12-01 09:32:12]

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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12177 times:

I would have thought airport-planners have known the size of the aircraft for some time and could have modified taxi-ways accordingly...
It seems uncomprehensive that Sydney would be the only A380 -ready airport with this problem..



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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3224 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12086 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 1):
I would have thought airport-planners have known the size of the aircraft for some time and could have modified taxi-ways accordingly...
It seems uncomprehensive that Sydney would be the only A380 -ready airport with this problem..

I believe the gates that will be A380 ready are still under construction. At least they were about 3 weeks ago when I passed through the Qantas end of the international terminal.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11992 times:

As far as I know it the aircraft operated into Sydney smoothly causing minimal delays...At this stage Sydney have 2 A380 bays (Bays 57 and Bay 24 I believe)...

EK413



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User currently offlineJasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11728 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 3):
As far as I know it the aircraft operated into Sydney smoothly causing minimal delays...At this stage Sydney have 2 A380 bays (Bays 57 and Bay 24 I believe)...

I concur, I also spoke with someone I know at SYD (not Qantas, not that it matters really) and they reported no such delays at all

[Edited 2006-12-01 12:48:19]

User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

I would hope if the A380 was on a testing flight and was delaying other aircraft up to 4 hours. The delayed airlines would kindly tell Airbus to sod off out of the way, and Airbus would duly oblige.

User currently offlineJasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11636 times:

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 5):
I would hope if the A380 was on a testing flight and was delaying other aircraft up to 4 hours. The delayed airlines would kindly tell Airbus to sod off out of the way, and Airbus would duly oblige.

I think that was the point of the current responses to this thread, there simply were no delays to speak of. As you have pointed out had there been so much as an hour's delay to other operational traffic both Airbus and the operators of SYD airport would have moved it out of everyone else's way for no other reason than it would be potentially embarrassing for all concerned.


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3403 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11610 times:

It would of been very public if some sort of chaos had occourred - anyone remember Bill Clinton's hair cut at LAX?

User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5746 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11532 times:
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I was at SYD for a considerable time Tuesday(missed the arrival by about 15 min) and Wednesday and listening to ATC, Tower & Ground there were no appreciable delays that I could tell.
The A380 spent more time at the Alpha1 hold than normal but the departures sched for that time seemed happy, even appreciated the intersection take offs they were offered.

Didn't seem to hold up things more than any other "special" flight, I am sure(and am no A380 fan) that once in RPT it will just be part of the "scenery"
As an uncertified aircraft I believe there were additional runway inspection requirements but these will also go away soon.

Cheers



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User currently offlineAtnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11330 times:

Quoting Lumus (Thread starter):
A close friend of mine who works at Qantas was chatting to me today about the A380 performing its testing at SYD the other day. He told me that there were massive problems with it being at the terminal because the air bridges weren't lining up properly, and that due to its size (or position on the apron) other jets were delayed for over 4 hours because they couldn't taxi past.

Perhaps your friend was speaking more of what he thought happened (or would happen with the A380) than actually knowing as a fact.... As already said by various a.netters, there wasn't any major delays at SYD due to the A380... could it be that your friend doesn't really like the A380???



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User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2699 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11255 times:

G'day A'netters,

There were no delays caused by A380 as far as I could see. The A380 stopped about 15 metres short on bay 57 and was towed to the correct position. There was about a 4 or 5 minute wait for the tow to commence. During this time, a CX A330 was being towed up the alleyway to the disconnect point. Although the A380 was not in the correct position, there was still more than enough clearance for the A330 to pass.

Regards, JetMech



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User currently offlineLairyliam From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9740 times:

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 7):
- anyone remember Bill Clinton's hair cut at LAX?

Have you a link for the thread on that???  laughing   laughing   mischievous   mischievous   stirthepot   stirthepot 



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User currently offlineFlyguy595 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8913 times:

I thought it wasnt the A380 causing delays for others but rather the A380 itself that is delayed  duck 

Im just joking for the record I know maybe in poor tasts.

I could clearly see that such a large aircraft amy need to be handled or posisitioned just right, but as already posted I think most people have known the size of the A380 for some time now and I think that maybe an A380 and a 747 might have to share some space that might get a little tight to taxi around and not be a very easy feeling for the Captain taxiing around it. Wouldnt want to be that guy!!!


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8822 times:

Quoting Flyguy595 (Reply 12):
I think that maybe an A380 and a 747 might have to share some space that might get a little tight to taxi around and not be a very easy feeling for the Captain taxiing around it. Wouldnt want to be that guy!!!

If it's a problem, just ask for a wingwalker.


User currently offlineNcelhr From Vatican City, joined Jul 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6429 times:

Quoting Lumus (Thread starter):
weren't lining up properly, and that due to its size (or position on the apron) other jets were delayed for over 4 hours because they couldn't taxi past.

Well that's a nice urban legend I haven't heard before:

"A380 causes ground congestion when parked"

It (just) fits within the 80x80m box, which is the standard. The A346 is 75.30m vs. 72.74m for the A380 so no big deal there.
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User currently offlineMorvious From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 707 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6349 times:

Quoting Ncelhr (Reply 14):
Well that's a nice urban legend I haven't heard before:

"A380 causes ground congestion when parked"

It (just) fits within the 80x80m box, which is the standard. The A346 is 75.30m vs. 72.74m for the A380 so no big deal there.

Exactly.
The A380 is big in the name of "height" and "not" in length.

Quoting Flyguy595 (Reply 12):
I thought it wasnt the A380 causing delays for others but rather the A380 itself that is delayed

Atleast that would be a thread with some thruth  Wink!!



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User currently offlineGsman From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5949 times:

The A380 arrival and processing at SYD was flawless. Your friend at Qantas clearly has no idea what he is talking about. The aircraft as planned and requested stopped short of the bay and was towed on. Only one door as planned was connected. All other remaining doors were connected later in the day as part of aerobridge training. Everything lined up perfectly. No delays were experienced by anyone. The holding of the aircraft prior to departure was to ensure wake turbulence standards were met and the A380 was slotted into the sequence.

User currently offlineMagyar From Hungary, joined Feb 2000, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5598 times:

Dear Lumus,

does your friend at Qantas work in Seattle?

Seriously, whenever something decent happens with the A380 there is always such "news" to pop up! Why? It must be the most "disliked" aircraft among a certain "social group". The A380 should already be in the Guiness book, it colected the most malicious rumours of any aircraft type!


User currently offlineScanorama From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5196 times:

If the A380 did cause 4 hours delay on other flights, I'm sure it would be all over the papers.

User currently offlineFlyboy2001 From Canada, joined May 2005, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4948 times:

When the A380 visited YVR this week, she parked away from the terminal, as the two gates that will handle her weren't ready, so ground delays weren't an issue. However, on her approach, I heard a Westjet flight get told "You'll be following the big ol' A380, caution turbulence". Now, from the clearances that were being issued (speed, altitude, heading, etc.) it seemed that the WS flight was immediately next in the approach sequence, so it was surprising when it touched down about five minutes later. I stopped listening to ATC to shoot photos but I wonder if this was an intentional gap, to allow the A380s massive wake to dissapate...? Might this cause delays, were it to become the norm?

Quoting Morvious (Reply 15):
The A380 is big in the name of "height" and "not" in length.

Don't forget the "width", it's 14 metres wider than a 744!



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User currently offlineHamster From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

380 causes more controversy everywhere it goes even on the message board. what happened with bill clintons haircut at lax? sounds like a funny anecdote

User currently offlineHeavy747 From Canada, joined Mar 2000, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

When the 380 was in YVR, they parked the whale in W1 which is one of 3 de-icing pads we use for all widebodies and most narrowbodies. Timing couldn't have been worse since aiport authorities didnt want anyone going out to the pads because of this, it was hard to explain to them that we had to go out to de-ice these planes. It was a mess! finally they let us through to do our jobs but it was a slow process having only to pads open when you got the "heavy rush" (CX SQ KE AC MU PR WJ etc...) ready to go at the same time.

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