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Chatuqua To Fly CRJs For CO  
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 9604 times:

Chatauqua will be flying CRJs for CO out of IAH. This is official on the schedule as of 01/30, they will be flying IAH to COS, IND, MSP, TUS, OKC, and SDF (thanks flyertalk and CO schedule)
I guess they couldn't find enough ERJs after all  Sad
-Mr. X


What now?
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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5203 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 9585 times:

Thanks for the bad news...I hate those CR2s.


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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 9576 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Thread starter):
COS

 Sad



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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 9565 times:

FYI,

The first CO (Connection, Express, fill in the blank) CRJ made an appearance on the 28th of November at IAH, to do some gate testing. N656BR was the plane involved, painted in basic CO colors, minus the globe on the tail and the titles, hence the fill in the blank reference.
Had the number 452 on the top of the flight deck, likely the CO fleet number...

JSD



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 9543 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Thread starter):
TUS

The schedule for TUS shows only one of the daily ERJ flights to IAH being replaced with the CRJ and the 3 daily mainline flights to IAH remaining.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 9517 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Thread starter):
Chatauqua will be flying CRJs for CO out of IAH

Old, old news......



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8341 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 9504 times:

Aren't they flying CRJs out of CLE too?

I believe Chautauqua will be flying under the Express banner, not Connection.



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 9444 times:

I looked here on A.net and couldn't find that they were using CRJs, I thought the plan was just ERjs.
I can't find any CRJs out of CLE at this point, at least for 01/30
-Mr. X



What now?
User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 9443 times:

Everything I've heard is that the CRJs will remain out of IAH, but then again, things can change.
The CLE changes will be with Commutair upgrading their fleets with Dash 8-200s that they are getting from Horizon.

JSD



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9403 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 8):
Everything I've heard is that the CRJs will remain out of IAH, but then again, things can change.
The CLE changes will be with Commutair upgrading their fleets with Dash 8-200s that they are getting from Horizon.

JSD

I have heard the same thing.....but do look for some realignment and adjustments in regional flying out of all three CO hubs in the coming months.


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9376 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 6):
I believe Chautauqua will be flying under the Express banner, not Connection.

As I understand it, the Connection banner is used for flights operated by turboprops (i.e. Colgan Air or Gulfstream International Airlines), while Express is reserved for flights operated by jetliners (i.e. ExpressJet).


User currently offlineExpressJet_ERJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 834 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 9259 times:

The ERJs for CHAUTAUQUA for CO start very end of January too i think 28th or 29th they will serve STL 2x daily, MCI 1x daily and CMH 1x daily, I cannot find the final city pair I know I am missing 1 RT on the ERJ because the one airplane wont sit in IAH from 1338 to 1735 (weekends run slightly reduced). All os in and out of Houston for now. The CRJs will run MSP 2x, COS 3x, TUS 1x, SDF 2x, and IND 1x.

Matt



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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9177 times:

We are operating 20 E145's and 24 CR2's. I have a pic of N638BR on MyAviation.net. We will be operating as COEX not COCOnnection. SDF and IAH will be the CRJ bases and SDF/STL will be the E145 bases. No flying out of CLE as of right now. We are operating for a short while on the US side with the CR2's. I have to go thru the CRJ transition training next week.


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User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9140 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 12):
have a pic of N638BR on MyAviation.net.

i cant find it there. cant u post a pic or link here bro. thx.



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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9121 times:

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 13):
i cant find it there. cant u post a pic or link here bro. thx.


MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © Sean Story



Looks just like N656BR did the other day.

JSD



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8966 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 3):
N656BR was the plane involved

I miss that bird, brings back memories of Independence Air



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User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2328 posts, RR: 38
Reply 16, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8946 times:

Yea ive seen the bird in and out of Houston probably a dozen times.

Always over at the B gates, near Northwest.

ATCT



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User currently onlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8803 times:
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supposedly we were doing some test runs at DEN this past week..........cle-den............supposedly. i think we are going to have a tough time out of COS...we already have a few problems with the ERJ apparently.


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User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8585 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 15):
I miss that bird, brings back memories of Independence Air

i miss N803BR and N624BR. that was one cool airline.........wait a sec, is ExpressJet getting rid of their ERjs or just adding the CRJs?



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User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1959 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8542 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 18):
ExpressJet getting rid of their ERjs or just adding the CRJs?

Expressjet is not getting rid of any of their planes. Continental is getting rid of 69 of Expresssjet's ERJ's and replacing them with 44 Chat-caca jets which will be a mix of CRJ's and ERJ's and will operate under the "Continental Express" brand. I reiterate, these 44 planes will be operated by Chat-caca, not Expressjet. Now you can travel in extreme CRJ comfort with a 50 seat jet weight restricted to 40 on a CO flight to COS or TUS! Continental Express no longer means ExpressJet....it means either Chat-caca or Expressjet (depending on the flight)....for now. This is similair to the way Delta operates Delta Connection with Comair, ASA, Mesa, and Chat-caca (and whoever else bids lowest next year).

Expressjet will be subleasing from Continental the 69 ERJ's withdrawn from Continental Express and will be using them for endeavours outside the Continental brand. 15 of them will be used as dedicated charter aircraft. They haven't made public what they intend to do with the other 54, other than the fact that they are bidding on Delta, Frontier, and Midwest RFP's.


User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8544 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 18):
ExpressJet getting rid of their ERjs or just adding the CRJs?

ExpressJet is doing neither. Chautauqua is adding CRJs because they don't have 44 ERJs to spare for the CO contract.



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User currently offlineKingAirMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8504 times:

ooo no... what is happening with Express Jet exactly ? . .

User currently offlineKingAirMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8499 times:

i take that back i completely missed the last 2!

User currently offlineKingAirMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8490 times:

I fly IND - IAH and VV all of the time. . This really is a pitty, I cannot stand CRJ-200's or Chataqua . Express jet is actually an enjoyable ride. I will be booking my tickets on the 735 out of indy on the evening flight, unless they are replacing that too, if so, southwest, here i come!

User currently offlineMitchell Gant From Montserrat, joined Aug 2000, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8459 times:

If I were an XJET employee or shareholder, I would be more than a little concerned that they are getting their "first" ERJ at the end of this month and the company hasn't yet stated what they are doing with 80% of them.

25 Post contains links KAUSpilot : Write a letter to Continental managment and let them know, that is all I can tell you. http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...D=913ED3C6F62A4B1088B94
26 KAUSpilot : I don't see how worrying will benefit anyone. If they don't win any RFP's then they will probably try to fly point to point routes under their own br
27 MCOflyer : I think CHQ is very good. I have spoken to a number of their crews and they have said no negative things. I hope CHQ replaces the COEX flt to IAH and
28 N766UA : They are. They've performed spledidly as a DL Connection carrier and we seldom ever have problems with them. CRJs do stink, though.
29 STT757 : Xpressjet will still be flying ERJs for CO under the COEX banner, however they are no longer the sole provider of COEX service. Chatuqua will be flyin
30 Post contains images N766UA : On a side note, I'm getting some amusement out of all the different ways to spell "Chautauqua."
31 Access-Air : Oh Good grief, when will these stupid CRJs disappear????I dont mind the ERJs.... But the CRJs 200s have to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Access-Air
32 ExpressJet_ERJ : CHAUTAUQUA is how you spell the airline name. I agree the CRJs stink, we gave CO the option and they chose the ERJ/CRJ split so they could have a less
33 CALMSP : ExpressJet_ERJ.................who do you expect to accept the company's bid to fly at the cost that the company is asking??
34 Jetmatt777 : Great... they better not cut mainline to OKC. CR2's suck.[Edited 2006-12-03 21:11:31]
35 QantasA380 : Slightly off topic, but when are the CO Q400s due to come online???
36 KAUSpilot : ExpressJet ERJ works for Chat-CaCa, not Expressjet. Why he/she has that screenmane, I don't know. Who will accept Expressjet's bids? I don't know, pe
37 S5FA170 : Once again, the airline's name is Chautauqua Airlines. Spelled au-au-ua. Not Chit-CaCa, or any other mangling of Chautauqua. Bitter, party of one. Yo
38 Mav75 : As an Jetlink employee, this is a very bitter pill for me to swallow. It's especially ironic since I used to work for ACA/Independence and their acft
39 ATCT : Haha Amen to that Gary. I personally will write a letter to Continental letting them know how much I prefer the Embraer and ExpressJets service to th
40 B737900er : Thats why most of the talent is leaving. That sentiment is felt in MX as well.
41 FutureFO : You could of had MESA or TSA flying for CO. We are a quality provider of excellent service. We definitely were not the lowest bidder. All of you XJT f
42 Drerx7 : Well from a passenger point of view Chautauqua is good but the CR2s suck--especially compaired with the ERJs. Luckily I won't be going to any of those
43 Lowrider : We'll see how happy you are when your flying goes out for bid and your job and career track are on the chopping block as a result. Work hard, try and
44 S5FA170 : You're not the only one going through this. In fact, we've gone through it as well. We've been losing our Florida flying (and 50 seat flying, in gene
45 Db373 : How can you write a letter saying you prefer Expressjet's service over Chautauqua's when Chautauqua hasn't even started flying for CO yet? I know thi
46 A340Spotter : For those who are interested... As the airplanes separate from CO flying, ExpressJet will have their own colors revealed in the short future, titles,
47 IAHFLYR : They both suck! Write all you want pal, bottom line is it is done...over...fat lady has sung! Just wait till you give those CHQ folks a takeoff clear
48 777WT : Is LGA in the plan for CO's RJ's routes under CHQ?
49 IAHFLYR : And, can't wait for the CHQ or BTA being followed on a visual by the other! Can you say whoops, missed the highspeed and am going to the end....GO ARO
50 S5FA170 : They will be called Continental Express flights operated by Chautauqua Airlines. And why exactly would you be quitting your job?
51 Post contains images SonOfACaptain : Don't lie...we all know it's "Shitty-taco" -SOAC
52 S5FA170 : This coming from the son of a captain from a twice-bankrupt airline that wouldn't have made it unless it was bailed out by multiple regional airlines
53 Post contains images SonOfACaptain : Hey there buddy. I wasn't attacking your airline there. (I actually like Chautauqua) I was just joking around, pointing fun at all the ways people li
54 Lowrider : Considering that "your" Delta connection Florida flying originally came from Comair, consider it a taste of your company has been dishing out. The ma
55 S5FA170 : You can look back on this board and quote where I have stated Comair lost Florida to us and we in turn lost it to Freedom. I wasn't trying to disrega
56 S5FA170 : I, too, would like to work at a major airline. But it will not be the new USAirways. I was previously hired by America West and turned them down, and
57 KAUSpilot : I would rather have seen them go with MESA. The RFP's are fairly public and Expressjet management has mad it known through several sources that they
58 KAUSpilot : Personally, I will do my best to make sure my family and I never ride on Chatcaca. You won't see me groveling for a ride. I would rather drive.[Edite
59 Post contains images IAHFLYR : I like that....Avis may start non-stop from AUS-IAH in the near future!
60 Loggat : First of all, MESA was involved in this mess, as was TSA, and a few other carriers, as they had bids in for this flying. It is a well known FACT that
61 FlyHoss : First, take a look in the mirror. Then maybe you'll understand the animosity by some CO employees over the huge number of BTA ERJs that have replaced
62 Lowrider : I understand what I wrote. However, when even the outsourcers(?) get outsourced, what does that say for the future? Delta pilots did not push to keep
63 ANNOYEDFA : They have already been revealed. The colors are white, grey, and red with EXPRESSJET plastered on the side of the aircraft. Personally I think it loo
64 B737900er : Expressjet and CHQ do nothing more than fly the plane. CO works the ramp, ticket counters, reservations, everything. Expressjet and CHQ have very lit
65 Mav75 : Well, since you don't hold that opinion, I won't blast you personally. But to all the other mainline employees, how long do you think you would have
66 Bjg231 : I remember flying expressjet on longer routes in the past, and they offered relatively elaborate snack packs with salami, cheeses, etc. Was this provi
67 CMB320 : I was just wondering this same thing. I'm assuming it's a Continental thing, and not so much an ExpressJet or Chatauqua thing.
68 KingAirMan : AMEN MAN, AMEN. . RU LIST - I THINK SO!
69 Ny-jfk-lga : As for the snack pack thing, yes it will be offered on the longer flights, including those on the Canadair. My sympathy goes out to those at ExpressJe
70 Post contains images Mav75 : Pretty ironic coming from an ex ACA/Independence employee. When I was at ACA, the sentiment was quite different about Mesa and Ornstein. I can't spea
71 NY-JFK-LGA : I totally understand how different the whole attitude thing at ACA was, especially during the 'hostile takeover' times. That was pretty bad. But that'
72 B737900er : CO and Expressjet negotiated for over a year and a half on a new CPA before Expressjet walked away. Expressjet has been planing a split for a while,
73 Falcon84 : Perhaps. Chautauqua won't start flying out of CLE till April, so I imagine with the next schedule load, perhaps in January, if there'll be any CRJ's
74 FutureFO : No CLE for us. IAH and SDF are the CRJ bases and and SDF and STL are the ERJ bases. XJT can have EWR and Commutair and Regions can have CLE. I persona
75 MasseyBrown : XJT (about 160 flights) is a much bigger factor in CLE than Commutair (30) or Regions (6). It would be interesting to know XJT's yields at the three
76 ANNOYEDFA : I totally agree with you... I walked into the crew room and just looked at the pictures for a while. Honestly, I thought they would of asked for the
77 UPSMD11 : I wonder if complaining to CO about the CRJ flying into SDF will help make it go away? I definitely prefer the ERJ (mainly because of window height) a
78 Slider : While I agree that not all regional carriers are alike, I can't believe that in an airline economic environment that a carrier will willingly pay a p
79 EssentialPowr : CO doesn't own those a/c. I think the recent failure of XJT shows that most mainlines won't pay more than right around the going rate for subcontract
80 B737900er : Keep in mind the agreement with CHQ is only for two years. CO has stated they want to reduce RJ flying, but don't have the mainline aircraft to fill i
81 EssentialPowr : They could be, but not w/o reducing their costs. That's why CAL is taking a/c from then in the 1st place...
82 B737900er : They have a good maintenance program and the facilites, but all they know are EMB 135/145 aircraft. Once these airplanes are done away with, and they
83 S5FA170 : SDF will be both a CRJ and ERJ-145 base for CHQ/COEx. So not all is lost between SDF-IAH on the ERJ front!
84 Post contains images Falcon84 : It might-but so might the service, since these a/c are intended to replace the ERJ's being pulled from the Continental Express fleet by XJT. Fortunat
85 Expressjet_erj : SDF will not be a 145 and CRJ base for CO it will be CRJ only for CO. The 145 bases will be STL, and most likely IND and CMH. While the CRJ is IAH, SD
86 FutureFO : SDF abd IAH will be a CRJ and ERJ base for CO. STL and SDF are the ERJ bases. CRP was just announced as a base today for a spring opening. If you do n
87 ANNOYEDFA : New seats and XM radio are going in on all of ExpressJets 69 aircraft. Continental didn't want to be upstaged so they didn't want the upgrades on the
88 ExpressJet_ERJ : I do work for CHQ. I wanted to work for XJT thats why I have this screen name. SDF will NOT be doing any of the CO 145 flying ALL of that will be don
89 EssentialPowr : Can you reference the press release on the XM radio and seats? I guess I missed it. Brilliant. Tell that to L. Kellner. That's like saying "I know I
90 FutureFO : Latest word from the training department during transition training about the 145's. Also they could not elaborate on the travel benefits on the CO s
91 Post contains images ExpressJet_ERJ : Our training department isnt the sharpest tools in the shed. Just remember that .
92 ContnlEliteCMH : Two easy reasons from an experienced ExpressJet flier: (1) CRJ's suck. Soooo much suckage. It is a miseable airplane, and if you're offering service
93 Drerx7 : I agree--If a CRJ200 is flying a route, I'll get there by other means. My issue from a passenger standpoint is not about Chautauqua, in fact I've flo
94 A340Spotter : True enough, but was thinking as part of the SONIC system, for flight following, etc. within our system, a number like that would be assigned. To be
95 Post contains images ANNOYEDFA : I don't need to post a press release when I was there for the meeting of it. I could careless if you believe me or not. This coming from an arm chair
96 OB1504 : The CRJ-700 is larger carries more passengers than does the ERJ-145XR (which I assume you're referring to). Isn't it logical for it to have greater o
97 EssentialPowr : Right. Any piece of "add on" equipment is always being considered...VNAV, Electronic flight bags, etc.. Until the press release is done, or it starts
98 EssentialPowr : Now let's not get technical here!
99 ANNOYEDFA : Title CIL06-70, Corp. Aviation Overview Sender MELODY , KIMBERLY Date Nov 28 06 1806 CT Charter Operation and ExpressJet operations. ExpressJet Corpo
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