Chi-town From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 970 posts, RR: 6 Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4199 times:
Could someone please explain the details of this merger. I am a little confused.
For instance, I saw a trip report that said they booked their flight PHX-ATL on US Airways but they flew on an AWA aircraft. Does US Airways now own all of AWA? Are some of their flights operated by AWA? Do they own all of the AWA aircraft? Will we ever see all of the AWA aircraft repainted in US colors? I know that US took over the AWA headquarters building in Tempe.
Walter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4188 times:
Chi-town From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 970 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4116 times:
Gift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 609 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4057 times:
Quoting Walter747 (Reply 1): No flight will be designated as HP flights once the certificates merge this month.
This month?!?! Wow, thats news to me, Last I heard was april...where did you hear that? And do you have an exact date? I'm curious when east flights will stop being US Air flt 1823, and become Cactus flt 1823!
Walter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4064 times:
Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 3): This month?!?! Wow, thats news to me, Last I heard was april...where did you hear that? And do you have an exact date? I'm curious when east flights will stop being US Air flt 1823, and become Cactus flt 1823!
Gift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 609 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4048 times:
Ok, so i did some searching on usairways.com, couldn't find anything, in fact nothing on the ORIGINAL merger at all! Last week I read on 'the hub'..our employee site, that April was the combined cert. date, please post the link the where you specifically saw this month, becuase that is exciting news.
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4032 times:
Walter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4010 times:
Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 5): Ok, so i did some searching on usairways.com, couldn't find anything, in fact nothing on the ORIGINAL merger at all! Last week I read on 'the hub'..our employee site, that April was the combined cert. date, please post the link the where you specifically saw this month, becuase that is exciting news.
Yes, PVD rocks!
-Tony@PVD
i usually use wikipedia. sorry
Quoting source: All of the currently operating airlines will retain their current names and continue operating until 2007. Details on how the various operations will be merged will be resolved at a future date and will need to be approved by the FAA where they affect operating procedures.
Walter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4009 times:
Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 5): Ok, so i did some searching on usairways.com, couldn't find anything, in fact nothing on the ORIGINAL merger at all! Last week I read on 'the hub'..our employee site, that April was the combined cert. date, please post the link the where you specifically saw this month, becuase that is exciting news.
Yes, PVD rocks!
-Tony@PVD
i usually use wikipedia. sorry
Quoting source: All of the currently operating airlines will retain their current names and continue operating until 2007. Details on how the various operations will be merged will be resolved at a future date and will need to be approved by the FAA where they affect operating procedures.
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5521 posts, RR: 58 Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3960 times:
Quoting Xpfg (Reply 9): They are keeping the cactus name for the skies?
HPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3934 times:
Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 3): This month?!?! Wow, thats news to me, Last I heard was april...where did you hear that? And do you have an exact date?
I haven't heard April as being a definite time period. April might be the goal, but they certainly won't merge the certificates until all unions have agreed on a combined contract. That process is moving along painfully slow, I think it's been at least 3 months since I've heard of any of our unions making progress towards unification.
Otherwise, everything else seems to be progressing on schedule or even a little ahead of schedule. It'll be a sad day when the last HP plane is painted in the new colors - there's not very many of them left, and most of those are the 733s.
Walter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3872 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 11): Otherwise, everything else seems to be progressing on schedule or even a little ahead of schedule. It'll be a sad day when the last HP plane is painted in the new colors - there's not very many of them left, and most of those are the 733s.
CentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3872 times:
HPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3661 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3826 times:
Quoting CentPIT (Reply 13): Why? US Air makes a whole lot more sense to me?
Just a little reminder of who is really running the show.
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5521 posts, RR: 58 Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3810 times:
Quoting CentPIT (Reply 13): US Air makes a whole lot more sense to me?
It does make sense, but HP is the purchaser and 'Cactus' belongs to HP (now called US).
Phxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3764 times:
Quoting Walter747 (Reply 12): not even half of the combined fleet is painted
As you said it is the combined flight, it is really becoming rare to see America West planes now. As for US Airways those blue/black planes are still all over.
Walter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3743 times:
Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 15):
It does make sense, but HP is the purchaser and 'Cactus' belongs to HP (now called US).
Only the name if the company is US. All the stocks are under America West Holding Company.
They are keeping th cactus call sign because it was part of HP.
Gift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 609 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3711 times:
Quoting Walter747 (Reply 17): They are keeping th cactus call sign because it was part of HP.
Yea, but don't forget Tempe is HQ, so it does still make sense to have cactus as the call sign, as everything about the company comes from the desert.
HPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3679 times:
Quoting Walter747 (Reply 12): not even half of the combined fleet is painted
But I was referring to HP's planes, of which there is about 130. All of the 319's are done, most of the 320s are done, about a third of the 752s and about 1/4 of the 733s. The whole HP fleet should be done by about March of next year.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 89 Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3520 times:
Quoting Walter747 (Reply 17): All the stocks are under America West Holding Company.
That is not correct. America West Holdings is a subsidiary of the US Airways Group.
Jetdude From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3450 times:
OK, I have some information here.
The certificate will merge in May of 07. And, no the unions do not have to have a merged contract by than, in fact it is assumed that at least the flight attendants will not have a merged contract by than. The company will merge and the FAs will fly as two seperate work groups until they have a merged contract.
Because this is a MERGER, no one bought anyone. The US name was used because it is better known. Cactus was used, because we went with the US name and using Cactus kept balance.
Both airlines are flying as each seperate airline (with merged schedules etc) until May of 07, than my paycheck will say US Airways, because all of the carrier will be US (than and only than). So until May of 07, you can book flights on the US airways site, but you might be on a US or HP aircraft.
Gift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 609 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3382 times:
Quoting Jetdude (Reply 21): So until May of 07, you can book flights on the US airways site, but you might be on a US or HP aircraft.
Bomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 361 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3337 times:
Does anyone know when we can expect to see ex-HP aircraft flying the old US routs in the east and vice versa? Will this happen in May when the OC's are merged?
Walter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3305 times:
Quoting Bomber996 (Reply 23): Does anyone know when we can expect to see ex-HP aircraft flying the old US routs in the east and vice versa? Will this happen in May when the OC's are merged?
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last april after the merger i saw an HP crj-700 at PVD.
26 Gift4tbone: Actually it's a crj900, and they are operated by Mesa the do the CLT routes, on weekends, and the 11A during the week. Most have been repainted alrea
27 Jetdeltamsy: No. America West now owns all of USAirways. They are all USAir flight numbers but the planes haven't been repainted, the work groups haven't been int
28 Jetdude: America West does not own US Airways, the company merged into one company. We now operate under two certificates but in May of 007 we will operate und
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