Another interesting comment is made about the status of the A350 commitment.
"Qatar Airways already has an agreement with Airbus on receiving compensation for the A350s for which it placed orders of 60 aircraft. But tinkering with the original design has led to delays. Al Baker has on many occasions said he is not worried about the status of the A350 as clauses on compensation are in place."
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 28570 posts, RR: 84 Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6692 times:
Only ordering two frames always seemed a bit odd to me, though I understand they're tasked for DOH-LHR when they arrive, so adding two more can't hurt since it will give them some coverage should one go down for maintenance.
"Qatar Airways is going to demand compensation for the delay," Baker said. "If we can get to a compensation arrangement with them, I will confirm the other two," he said.
Thats a misconception..he says that QR would "confirm" the other two, not order two more.
QF are supposed to take 60 odd 787s on order(out of a total 115 with options)..if QF says that "the planes are preforming as planned we will take rest of our order", does that mean they have ordered 55 more? No it doesn't...not to me at least...
Thank you for your valuable contribution. Let's follow your logic. They've ordered 2, and are now in negotations for their delayed A380's. If the compensation is satisfactory Mr. Baker says he'll firm up 2 more. What's the incentive for Airbus here? Give them compensation, so QR will agree with getting 2 FREE A380s? Afterall, buy 1 get one free, is buy 2 get 2 free, not? Well they've bought the first 2....
Airbus is obviously going to make money on the sale of 2 extra A380s, otherwise there wouldn't be much to negotiate about.
Back to the think board for you. Buy 1 get one free is not going to work here...
Manni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23 Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6465 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 12): Airbus will certainly not roll over for QR on compensation or price, but I don't believe they're going to try and strong-arm them, either.
Agreed. QR will probably get what it wants. Consequently, if Mr. Baker keeps his word an Airbus doesn't release the news sooner then agreed , it's only a matter of time to see QR converting their options to orders.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 28570 posts, RR: 84 Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6163 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15): It was basically a direct correlation..whether you understand it or not, I stated it was a matter of semantics anyway...to which I disagreed with the OP...
Well I guess I don't understand because the only other way I can interpret his statement is that he will "confirm" that he has two options, but I'm not sure what Airbus gets out of giving him additional compensation beyond what is contracted in exchange to get him to confirm that he might order two more A388s later...
I'm reminded of Wimpy in the "Popeye" cartoons - "I will gladly consider buying your product on Tuesday for some extra cash today".
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4053 posts, RR: 91 Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5967 times:
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Quoting Manni (Thread starter): "Qatar Airways already has an agreement with Airbus on receiving compensation for the A350s for which it placed orders of 60 aircraft. But tinkering with the original design has led to delays. Al Baker has on many occasions said he is not worried about the status of the A350 as clauses on compensation are in place."
I'll have some more details shortly but these headlines are typical Al Baker talk
*QATAR AIRWAYS MAY TURN TO BOEING IF FURTHER DELAYS IN A350
*QATAR AIRWAYS MAY ABANDON PLANS FOR A350 IF FURTHER DELAYS
*QATAR AIRWAYS CEO MADE COMMENTS IN INTERVIEW DUBAI