Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Boeing Sees US Legacy 787 Campaigns For 07/08  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5760 posts, RR: 47
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4138 times:

Scott Carson was speaking at Credit Suisse's Aerospace conference here in NY today said that he expects DL, UA and AA to conduct 787 sales campaigns on 07/08.

No other news to link to just yet as it was just a headline.

I have been lead to believe that AA would announce an order this month for 100 787s. Well it might be next month now.

Also Carson said that Boeing has 435 firm 787 orders which jive exactly with what I've figured.


That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
13 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineIloveboeing From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

Well, whatever happens, they're going to be massive orders.

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3942 times:

The most likely airline to buy the 787: AA. The reason is simple: they need a replacement for the 767-200 on transcon routes and a eventual replacement for the A300B4-600R also.

User currently offlineLHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 564 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3890 times:

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 2):
The most likely airline to buy the 787: AA. The reason is simple: they need a replacement for the 767-200 on transcon routes and a eventual replacement for the A300B4-600R also.


And down the road all of those 767-300s too. That's quite a few aircraft to replace.


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3782 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Here's a link to the article where Carson believes that AA, UA, and DL will probably start coming through with orders in late 2007/early 2008:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061206/boeing_787.html?.v=3


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5821 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
I have been lead to believe that AA would announce an order this month for 100 787s

Oh please. That's astronomical. I don't think AA has the...ahem...resources to place an order for 100 widebodies at this time. Though they are one of the healthier airlines, I don't think financiers would back that. I expect a much smaller order, with a L-A-R-G-E number of options.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4106 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

I don't understand why everyone assumes AA and DL will order 100 787s...DL I can see since they have close to that many 767s, but AA does not (unless I am mistaken?). I doubt if AA would order more than say 30 + 20 to start with, and add on later. Same goes for DL and UA.

User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3328 times:

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 6):
if AA would order more than say 30 + 20 to start with

30+20 and 50 purchase rights, that makes up 100  Wink


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3157 times:

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 6):
DL I can see since they have close to that many 767s, but AA does not (unless I am mistaken?). I doubt if AA would order more than say 30 + 20 to start with,

AA has a lot of A300-600s. The 787-3 is meant for this role.



When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13124 posts, RR: 100
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3124 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 2):
they need a replacement for the 767-200 on transcon routes

This I don't understand. Transcon is going to the 738's. A 787 just will not have the opperational flexibility of multiple small jets per day. What AA needs is more international lift. That is where the 787 would find a home. Yes, some demand would just be to replace the A300's, but most would be to enhance the long haul fleet.

Eventually the domestic legacies will order new mid-size aircraft, but when? Hopefully in 2007... but it wouldn't suprise me if there were few orders.

Lightsaber



Societies that achieve a critical mass of ideas achieve self sustaining growth; others stagnate.
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 9):
Quoting RayChuang (Reply 2):
they need a replacement for the 767-200 on transcon routes

This I don't understand. Transcon is going to the 738's

I'm not sure that I agree with you on this one.....AA seems commited to keeping widebodies on the JFK-LAX/SFO routes to offer three classes of service (I know about UA and PS, but AA is NOT rushing to the very low density 757 approach) and to make sure that their loyal high-fare premium FFs remain happy and with their butts on AA airplanes. The 762 is the ideal compromise...a widebody with not a lot of seats to fill up, meaning that AA can offer frequent flights which also keeps those same premium FFs very happy.

My guess is that when AA introduces the 787 to its fleet, they will be assigned to new longhaul routes, will replace A300s on the Latin American Services, and replace some 763ERs on some transatlantic/latin america services. The 763ERs that are displaced will take over the transcon routes - thats my opinion - and AA will slightly increase capacity and may use the additional cabin space of the 763ER to introduce more advanced F and J products.

AA will, at first, order enough 787s to cover the replacement of the A300 fleet and the 762ER fleet....thats about 50 airplanes, which is more than enough for AA to handle financially.


User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 9):
This I don't understand. Transcon is going to the 738's. A 787 just will not have the opperational flexibility of multiple small jets per day. What AA needs is more international lift. That is where the 787 would find a home. Yes, some demand would just be to replace the A300's, but most would be to enhance the long haul fleet.

783 perhaps. Not all 787 have to be the long-haul variety. And let's not forget transcon in North America is international in most other places of the world  Wink



I don't care what you think of my opinion. It's my opinion, so have a nice day :)
User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3039 times:

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 3):
And down the road all of those 767-300s too. That's quite a few aircraft to replace.

I believe that AA will keep its 767-300(ER) planes quite a bit longer because they are well-suited for "thinner" routes to certain European and Latin American destinations. AA will need a true 767-200 replacement on their lucrative USA transcon routes, and the 787-8 meets that requirement splendidly.  Smile


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 12):
I believe that AA will keep its 767-300(ER) planes quite a bit longer because they are well-suited for "thinner" routes to certain European and Latin American destinations. AA will need a true 767-200 replacement on their lucrative USA transcon routes, and the 787-8 meets that requirement splendidly.

Maybe I'm obtuse, but if you're going to do that, why not deploy the 787-8s on international routes and send the 767-300s to transcons?



When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Boeing Will Begin Shipping Wings, Fuselage For 787 posted Mon Sep 18 2006 03:06:56 by NYC777
Boeing Orders For 07/18/2006 posted Thu Jul 20 2006 18:11:22 by NYC777
Boeing Looks At Larger 787 For EK, BA posted Mon Sep 26 2005 06:41:59 by Sq212
Boeing's Order Summary For 07/12/2005 posted Thu Jul 14 2005 19:09:07 by NYC777
Boeing's Order Summary For 07/05/2005 posted Thu Jul 7 2005 18:43:11 by NYC777
US Govt. Scare Tactics For Boeing. Links posted Mon Mar 29 2004 01:03:33 by BR715-A1-30
Boeing Sees More 717's In The US And Europe posted Wed Jun 18 2003 19:55:15 by 717fan
WN New Routes + Expansion For 07 posted Thu Nov 16 2006 18:03:45 by R311music
Boeing Sees No Interest In 747-8I Upper Deck Sleep posted Tue Oct 31 2006 20:21:24 by NYC777
Boeing Sees Vindication In Strategy Against Airbus posted Sun Sep 17 2006 13:15:15 by Columba