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JetBlue Hints Of Interest In Shuttle  
User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4928 times:

Not as exciting as the 747-8I order from LH, but still interesting to those in the northeast maybe. from this morning's Boston Globe:

JetBlue Airways Corp. chief executive David Neeleman opened the door to the possibility yesterday, saying the discount airline would be eager to buy gates at LaGuardia Airport in New York and Reagan National Airport in Washington, if US Airways succeeds in its $8 billion hostile takeover bid for bankrupt Delta Air Lines Inc. and is ordered by federal antitrust regulators to divest the gates. US Airways has said it would probably sell the Delta operation, which flies from Boston to New York, and New York to Washington, and keep its own shuttle.

"Those are things we would jump on and be in the mix," Neeleman said during an investor presentation. "If we could justify it, we could get the money to do it."

In a follow-up interview, Neeleman spokeswoman Jenny Dervin said it's not certain the airline would use gates at LaGuardia for a Boston-New York shuttle. "Operating a shuttle would be one option. We can think of quite a few other purposes as well," Dervin said in an e-mail.

Dervin said JetBlue's frequent service among Logan International Airport, John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York, and Dulles International Airport outside Washington, D.C., "is doing very well, so we would think very carefully about the best use of LaGuardia and Reagan National assets."



full article at:

http://www.boston.com/business/artic...blue_hints_of_interest_in_shuttle/

jetBlue has had some amazing growth, especially at BOS, so we'll see what happens...

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User currently offlineGift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4809 times:

First WN now B6, who else wants those spots? FL? F9? The players keep commin....

-Tony@PVD



Top 3 airports: PVD 26.0%(115 flights), PHL 15.6%(69 flights), PHX 12.0%(53 flights)
User currently offlineWMUPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4793 times:

The shuttle routes are very popular and no matter what kind of success we have on our own JFK-BOS-IAD route, the DCA-LGA-BOS shuttle routes will be extremely sought after.


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4780 times:

If the Marine Air Terminal were to become vacant, I could see B6 moving in there in a flash.

-Mir



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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4264 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4756 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
If the Marine Air Terminal were to become vacant, I could see B6 moving in there in a flash.

If B6 doesn't get the slots, who does? WN?
I doubt B6 wants that....



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User currently offlineGift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4744 times:

Quoting Richierich (Reply 4):
If B6 doesn't get the slots, who does? WN?
I doubt B6 wants that....

That will be one hell of a battle, thats for sure...US...er DL will get way more for those slots/gates then they are worth.

-Tony@PVD



Top 3 airports: PVD 26.0%(115 flights), PHL 15.6%(69 flights), PHX 12.0%(53 flights)
User currently offlineNorthwestEWR From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4732 times:

I don't think B6 could out bid Southwest here. WN has been waiting for a chance like this and is probably going to fight like mad for the slots/gates. I just don't think B6 can afford to keep WN out.


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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4264 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4726 times:

Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 5):
That will be one hell of a battle, thats for sure...US...er DL will get way more for those slots/gates then they are worth

Personally, I don't think any of this conjecture is going to amount to anything. DL does not want to rid itself of LGA slots or real estate, that I am sure about.

But, hypothetically, if they were to divest their LGA slots, you are correct Gift4tbone that they would be worth a mint to the highest bidder (WN/B6/Other)....



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

I highly doubt we'll see WN in BOS only because they all ready fly out of PVD and MHT, and jetBlue would outbid them anyway to gain a monopoly on the JFK/LGA market.


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User currently offlineWMUPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

In the all unlikely hood of Delta selling off the Shuttle Routes, I could see several airlines bidding on the slots and gates.


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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4468 times:

I could see a few airlines going for the slots but WN, I don't know. They would be starting 3 new stations to run the routes, the kinds of airports their business plan has them staying away from, I just don't think WN would go after it. Most likely B6 AA and FL will want them and I don't know who would get it, assuming DL gives them up!

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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2926 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

If the shuttle were to come on the market (so to speak) I would expect to see a biddng war between B6 and AA. Both have the customer base in BOS, NYC, WAS and could be strong in the corridor. Ineresting, if it ever were to happen.

User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4426 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
If the Marine Air Terminal were to become vacant, I could see B6 moving in there in a flash.

Doesnt CO own the Marine terminal? They'll leave that fucker empty before they let B6 have it



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4410 times:

Wouldn't this be a great way for Virgin America to enter the market with a bang?  Wink


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 12):
Doesnt CO own the Marine terminal? They'll leave that fucker empty before they let B6 have it

CO actually owns the US terminal.


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JetBlue will do whatever it has to in order to pick up a Shuttle operation in the event of a US/DL merger.....flying a BOS-LGA-DCA shuttle is just what JetBLue needs to establish itself with business travellers. BOS-JFK-IAD is one thing, but the real money is to be made with the Shuttle routes.

Honestly, this would be a once in a lifetime opportunity for JetBlue, interesting stuff.


User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3105 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4317 times:

WN will pay top dollar and get the LGA and DCA gates and landing slots. Then they'll immediately turn around and sue the FAA so they can fly nonstop to LAS and PHX, perimeter rule be damned.

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4292 times:

I really don't see WN making a move for LGA - they'd have fits with the delays that the airport has.

-Mir



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32797 posts, RR: 71
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4267 times:

I think any shuttle operation takeover will go to American Airlines. They have deeper pockets than jetBlue, and it is no secret, they want it badly.


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User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4261 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 14):
flying a BOS-LGA-DCA shuttle is just what JetBLue needs to establish itself with business travellers

From what i hear jetBlue has made quite a splash already with the BOS-JFK service.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 15):
WN will pay top dollar and get the LGA and DCA gates and landing slots.

I highly doubt WN would spend all the money it would take to secure a few slots a LGA, an already crowded market. Maybe DCA but WN seems more concentrated on new unestblished markets. then again, LGA would be wise move.



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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4264 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 10):
I could see a few airlines going for the slots but WN, I don't know. They would be starting 3 new stations to run the routes, the kinds of airports their business plan has them staying away from, I just don't think WN would go after it. Most likely B6 AA and FL will want them and I don't know who would get it, assuming DL gives them up!

Are the slots dictated for LGA-BOS shuttle service? I'm sure WN could find other places to use them!
I know that publically WN has little interest in LGA but I wonder if privately they would love to seize the opportunity. They really desire (need?) a foothold into the New York City market and this would provide those means.

Quoting Mir (Reply 16):
I really don't see WN making a move for LGA - they'd have fits with the delays that the airport has.

Agree with the idea as far as operations but the desire to be in NYC might outweigh this. After all, PHL is/was also rife with delays and WN has quickly become the #2 carrier there.

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 18):
From what i hear jetBlue has made quite a splash already with the BOS-JFK service.

They have?



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4023 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
If the Marine Air Terminal were to become vacant, I could see B6 moving in there in a flash.

Doubt it...Even if US and Delta did merge, they would probably keep the Delta Shuttle operation rather than the "US Shuttle" which is basically part of mainline these days.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17):
I think any shuttle operation takeover will go to American Airlines.

Agreed. What would be interested to note is what aircraft they would operate on it...


User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4008 times:

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Thread starter):
JetBlue Airways Corp. chief executive David Neeleman opened the door to the possibility yesterday, saying the discount airline would be eager to buy gates at LaGuardia Airport in New York and Reagan National Airport in Washington, if US Airways succeeds in its $8 billion hostile takeover bid for bankrupt Delta Air Lines Inc. and is ordered by federal antitrust regulators to divest the gates.

It must be nice to want.


User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4264 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 21):
It must be nice to want.

Well, clearly if the opportunity presents itself, then it is a valid "want". He's sticking the JetBlue stake in the ground.
Now "if" this should happen, well that is a different question. I don't think it will either.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3916 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 20):
Doubt it...Even if US and Delta did merge, they would probably keep the Delta Shuttle operation rather than the "US Shuttle" which is basically part of mainline these days.

Well, except for the quote from the article cited in the thread starter:

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Thread starter):
US Airways has said it would probably sell the Delta operation, which flies from Boston to New York, and New York to Washington, and keep its own shuttle.

-Mir



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3780 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 23):
Well, except for the quote from the article cited in the thread starter:

Perhaps but it would make no sense for them to sell the more profitable Shuttle operation with its own terminal rather than the US Shuttle operation...


25 Mir : I don't disagree, but the article says that USAirways sees it differently. -Mir
26 ScottB : Yes, but the US Airways terminal at LGA is much larger than Delta's portion of the DL/NW terminal. And it would be far easier to sell off the Marine
27 Post contains images FA4B6 : Hysterical!
28 AirTran737 : B6 wont get anything. They may sell off the US operation, but they'll keep the DL terminal. Everyone can beg and beg for slots but CO will not let the
29 Gigneil : The perimeter rule is a law. A federal law. You can't sue the federal government anyway. NS
30 Dtwclipper : We have already determined that CO owns the US Terminal, not the Marine Air Terminal.
31 Flybyguy : This hostile takeover bid is DOA. For weeks now there have been rumors for one way or the other, but the fact of the matter is investors would rather
32 JetBluefan1 : Isn't the Wright Amendment a federal law as well? And look how that turned out... JetBluefan1
33 HighFlyer9790 : well, as far as i know they have done nothing but increase flights....
34 RwSEA : WN didn't care much about the law in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. Why would they care anywhere else?
35 A330323X : Sorry to break it to you, but the US Shuttle is more profitable than the DL Shuttle, even if you just consider the two LGA routes. Throw in BOS-DCA,
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