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Airbus CEO Meets Sheikh Mohammed Of Dubai  
User currently offlineTayaramecanici From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 224 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3433 times:

The last time a newly appointed CEO of Airbus met Sheikh Mohammed the ruler of Dubai was in 1998. It was Noel Forgeard and immediately after (2 weeks) the meeting the launch of the A380 was announced with EK placing the first orders in Dec1999 (correct ?).
Its just a coincidence that this new CEO happens to meet Sheikh Mohammed around the launch of A350XWB.
Inspite of all the denials by EK with regards to accusations of subsidised by the Dubai govt, images (circumstantial evidence) like these only substantiate the argument.

http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10087668.html

Mohammad receives EADS chief
WAM



His Highness Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai, on Wednesday received Louis Gallois, co-chairman of Airbus parent EADS and President and CEO of Airbus.


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User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3402 times:

There is an old saying : "A fool and his money are soon departed." I guess we shall have to wait to see who is the fool. Does he speak French or Arabic as a first language? We will have to see, but I am taking no bets.

User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3500 posts, RR: 66
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3318 times:

Quoting Tayaramecanici (Thread starter):
The last time a newly appointed CEO of Airbus met Sheikh Mohammed the ruler of Dubai was in 1998.

If this is the last time an Airbus CEO met with Sheikh Mohammed, it sounds like Airbus indifference to a primary customer.



Airplane design is easy, the difficulty is getting them to fly - Barnes Wallis
User currently offlineTimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1334 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3313 times:

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 2):

He said "newly appointed", not simply an Airbus CEO


User currently offlineMptpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 545 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3292 times:

May be to beg for mercy!

User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3386 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Quoting Tayaramecanici (Thread starter):
His Highness Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum

He's on a spending spree atm - he's in the process of buying my football team (soccer to the non-Brits!) http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6205386.stm


User currently offlineJonathan-l From France, joined Mar 2002, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 2):
If this is the last time an Airbus CEO met with Sheikh Mohammed, it sounds like Airbus indifference to a primary customer.

Although owned by the Government of Dubai, Emirates CEO is not the Sheik.
I can assure you that the top management of Emirates has been met by the top management of Airbus on numerous occasions.


User currently offlineA520 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 5):
He's on a spending spree atm - he's in the process of buying my football team (soccer to the non-Brits!)

... for the non-Europeans!


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12464 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3034 times:
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Interesting.

When asked a question at the press conference on Monday about joint EADS CEOs, Gallois said something to the effect that one advantage is that they can be in two places at once "Tom will be in America later this week, and I'll be .... somewhere else." I thought it was slightly intriguing at the time.

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 2):
If this is the last time an Airbus CEO met with Sheikh Mohammed, it sounds like Airbus indifference to a primary customer.

 confused 

You're talking about the ruler of Dubai - you don't just walk up to his office and ask him if he has a few minutes to spare! It would be the equivalent of Gallois meeting Bush.



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3386 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

Quoting A520 (Reply 7):

... for the non-Europeans!

Sorry Big grin


User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1065 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

Quoting Poitin (Reply 1):
who is the fool

you are the fool Big grin

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 5):
He's on a spending spree atm - he's in the process of buying my football team (soccer to the non-Brits!)

totally rubbish, he doesn't own that company that will buy the football team, it is owned by investors, it is Private Joint Stock Company, which means there is a shareholders and they will bit who ever touch their dividend.

As for the meeting, the EADS guy came to sell his military machines to the Ministry of Defence, and Shk. Mohammad is the head of the government which means he have the decision.
As for Emirates, it doesn't need any question, they pay for themselves, go and ask PriceWaterHouse who do the auditing for Emirates.

The tax of success is beeing jealous and discounting others victory


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3386 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

Apologies if I misunderstood who owns what but to directly quote the BBC

"The company is an investment arm of Dubai Holding, which is owned by Dubai Crown Prince and United Arab Emirates Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum. "


User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1065 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2947 times:

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 11):
"The company is an investment arm of Dubai Holding, which is owned by Dubai Crown Prince and United Arab Emirates Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum. "

The first mistake is his position, he is the ruler of Dubai. Second thing you are welcomed to come to Dubai and i will take you to Dubai Holding HQ and will let you meet their employees and ask for who they are running this company for.
Dubai Holding is a huge company which owns majority in many international companies, most of their subsidiaries are owned fully by them like Madame Tussuad or semi like London Eye and Daimler-Chrysler

I do agree that BBC is a good source but there is a room for mistakes.
I am involved in this so i am 100% sure


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3386 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 12):
The first mistake is his position, he is the ruler of Dubai. Second thing you are welcomed to come to Dubai and i will take you to Dubai Holding HQ and will let you meet their employees and ask for who they are running this company for.

I'd love to come to Dubai - too see the amazing place that I've heard it is - sadly I don't think that I'd get away with changing yet another family holday - next years trip to Canada has a small diversion to Seattle to see a tiny little plane factory..........

Thanks for setting me straight, I'll email the BBC and tell then that they're talking cr@p!


User currently offlineTayaramecanici From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2852 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 10):
go and ask PriceWaterHouse who do the auditing for Emirates.

And who do they present these audited books, Security Exchange of America or the Office of Fair Trading U.K. I have lived and worked in that country and know how they will cook their books (BCCI), wash the laundered money (9/11 Funding), Ill-Treat their labour as long as they are a indispensable link in Americas war against Iran.
EK stinks of subsidies and its these meetings with the Ruler that prove big ticket decisions are made by him and not the Board of EK. Maurice Flanagan has been on record in his interview in Sunday Times at the start of this year where he has stated that the rulers office decides on very large order investments.

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 10):
the EADS guy came to sell his military machines to the Ministry of Defence,

They might have but no where in the article does it mention that military hardware was discussed with Sheikh Mohammed of Dubai. If it was ever then it would have been with Sheikh Mohammed of AbuDhabi - The vice-President and Defence minister of UAE.

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 5):
He's on a spending spree atm - he's in the process of buying my football team (soccer to the non-Brits!)

Its a wise decision to buy Liverpool, there is a huge fan following in Asia for this scourcers club, me included.



''You are as good as your nearest competitor'' Bob Crandall.
User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1065 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

Quoting Tayaramecanici (Reply 14):
And who do they present these audited books, Security Exchange of America or the Office of Fair Trading U.K. I have lived and worked in that country and know how they will cook their books (BCCI), wash the laundered money (9/11 Funding), Ill-Treat their labour as long as they are a indispensable link in Americas war against Iran.

How do this relate to civil aviation forum????

Quoting Tayaramecanici (Reply 14):
EK stinks of subsidies and its these meetings with the Ruler that prove big ticket decisions are made by him and not the Board of EK. Maurice Flanagan has been on record in his interview in Sunday Times at the start of this year where he has stated that the rulers office decides on very large order investments.

K** MY @$#

Quoting Tayaramecanici (Reply 14):
Sheikh Mohammed of AbuDhabi - The vice-President and Defence minister of UAE.

LoL another mistake, Mohammad of AbuDhabi have nothing to do with the federation, he is AbuDhbai crown-prince and Honor vice-commander, he is no more involved in military
my boy send me private messages before you post and let me correct them for you before publishing wrong information as the BBC did


User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3500 posts, RR: 66
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

Quoting Jonathan-l (Reply 6):
I can assure you that the top management of Emirates has been met by the top management of Airbus on numerous occasions.

Then what is the significance of this thread?

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 8):
You're talking about the ruler of Dubai - you don't just walk up to his office and ask him if he has a few minutes to spare! It would be the equivalent of Gallois meeting Bush.

Considering that I've met with Sheikh Mohammeda on EK issues, I wouldn't put it in quite the same category as meeting Bush. I've never met Bush nor do I have the desire to do so.

Quoting Timboflier215 (Reply 3):
He said "newly appointed", not simply an Airbus CEO

If launching a new Airbus airplane requires replacement of the CEO, it's hardly a ringing endorsement for the position.



Airplane design is easy, the difficulty is getting them to fly - Barnes Wallis
User currently offlineTayaramecanici From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 15):
How do this relate to civil aviation forum????

Are you saying that checking the audited books of Emirates is not a aviation related activity, to substantiate my point on the in-validity of the PWH excercise of auditing the books of EK i've cited evidence of incidents of gross illegal activity by the Financial businesses and the state within UAE.

On the second statement i'll leave it your lot to keep kissing UNCLE SAMS .... your only defence system.

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 16):
Considering that I've met with Sheikh Mohammeda on EK issues,

Fair enough, the reason for starting this thread was to disprove the repeated statement by EK that they do not get any subsidy from the Dubai govt. As long as Sheikh Mohammed is involved in the decision making at EK whilst not being a member of its Board this allegation holds good.



''You are as good as your nearest competitor'' Bob Crandall.
User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1065 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

Quoting Tayaramecanici (Reply 17):
Are you saying that checking the audited books of Emirates is not a aviation related activity, to substantiate my point on the in-validity of the PWH excercise of auditing the books of EK i've cited evidence of incidents of gross illegal activity by the Financial businesses and the state within UAE.

On the second statement i'll leave it your lot to keep kissing UNCLE SAMS .... your only defence system.

You are sick, i am not going further than that


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