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Going To/Thru CLE 12-7? Heavy Snow Warning  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

It may be the anniversary of the "Day that will live in infamy" tomrrow, but it will be an infamous weather day in CLE it looks like on Thursday.

Forecasts are now calling for 12 to 18 inches of snow in the Cleveland area, with the higher amounts where squalls persist. This could cause major delays/cancellations in/out of CLE tomrrow due to this approaching storm. Plus with the new deicing system still cutting its teeth, it could cause even more delays.

Check up with your airline tomrrow morning for any delays/cancellations. It looks to be a fun day for CO here in CLE.  

[Edited 2006-12-07 01:26:04]

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User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3133 times:
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Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Plus with the new deicing system still cutting its teeth, it could cause even more delays.

Yeah, I heard yesterday was a bit of a cluster. Hopefully things will improve tomorrow!



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3128 times:
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Well lots of snow and the new de-icing situation not up to par, should make for a fun filled day to say the least.


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting Mbm3 (Reply 1):
Yeah, I heard yesterday was a bit of a cluster.

"A bit" is an understatement. I wasn't here for it, but heard a few horror stories. I've heard that CO deicers may take some of the responsibility tomorrow.

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 2):
Well lots of snow and the new de-icing situation not up to par, should make for a fun filled day to say the least.

Again, an understatement.  Big grin

I knew we'd pay for that gorgeous weather in November....


User currently offlineNcflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 488 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

The forecasts I've heard are for heavy lake effect snow. Usually effects the east side far, far worse than the west side, so good chance the airport will be A-OK.

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 4):
The forecasts I've heard are for heavy lake effect snow. Usually effects the east side far, far worse than the west side, so good chance the airport will be A-OK.

Winter Storm Warnings are up for Lorain County --> eastward. Lorain county is normally not in the lake effect area. According to http://www.newsnet5.com this is going to be a more general snow, affecting more than the snow belt.

And from what the Ops manager is saying up here, we're looking at a foot of snow at least at Hopkins tomorrow.


User currently offlineCle757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 3):
"A bit" is an understatement. I wasn't here for it, but heard a few horror stories. I've heard that CO deicers may take some of the responsibility tomorrow

Nope, they took our jobs away! So we dont de-ice...You can blame CLE ramp management and hub ops for that.



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User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2008 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3039 times:

Quoting Cle757 (Reply 6):


Nope, they took our jobs away! So we dont de-ice...You can blame CLE ramp management and hub ops for that.

I'm kind of confused as to who imposed this new deicing procedure. I understand the airport wanted the deicing centralized, but did the airport mandate the airlines use a specific company instead of their own people or was it voluntary. If it was imposed, shame on the airport. IMO the airlines should have a choice as to who does their handlings, in this case deicing. I get the feeling the airport mandated it from a post in another thread saying "United employees were begging to do it." If the airlines were mandated to do this,the airlines should be fuming about this...because this is ridiculous.

Ok...back to topic...hopefully a few diversions to TOL...Only been 1 CO jet in TOL in the last couple years...would be great for more  Smile


User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3034 times:

Good luck to anyone traveling tomorrow. I'm going CLE-EWR a week from today (12/13) so hopefully everything is good that day.
At least it is hitting now and not closer to when most college students are traveling home. Or anytime next week, as that is a big week for finals, and the one time you don't want class to be canceled.


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

It can snow all it wants tomorrow as long as 12/22 is crystal clear. Some snow on the ground would be nice to see on landing though.

User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 9):
It can snow all it wants tomorrow as long as 12/22 is crystal clear. Some snow on the ground would be nice to see on landing though.

Yeah it was nice to see some snow on the ground two days ago. I just hope it stays clear over the holidays. Looks like it is going to warm a little next week and all we will have is rain, so I should be ok on the 13th.


User currently offlineCle757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3006 times:

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 7):
I'm kind of confused as to who imposed this new deicing procedure

The EPA told CLE they had to have a remote area for de-icing so that the fluid would not run into drains and the creek. The city then asked Continental to do the de-icing but some folks in Hub Ops thought it would be too much of a hassel...and now a company that has no idea what their doing is spraying planes.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

Quoting Cle757 (Reply 11):
and now a company that has no idea what their doing is spraying planes.

The company IS experienced in deicing-in Montreal. In fact, heard tonight that some of their more experienced deicers were to be in town for this winter even to make sure the cluster of tuesday isn't repeated, and to maybe train the newbies a little better.

And forgive CLE757's anger-he's about as anti-management as anyone can get.  Smile


User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):


Forecasts are now calling for 12 to 18 inches of snow in the Cleveland area, with the higher amounts where squalls persist. This could cause major delays/cancellations in/out of CLE tomrrow due to this approaching storm. Plus with the new deicing system still cutting its teeth, it could cause even more delays.



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
And from what the Ops manager is saying up here, we're looking at a foot of snow at least at Hopkins tomorrow.

w00t! Sorry Falcon, and good luck to ya, but snow day?!?!?! (considering we only got a hockey day last year :P )

In better news, Boston Mills/Brandywine is opening this weekend.  Smile  Smile  Smile  Smile



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User currently offlineRiddlePilot215 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2946 times:
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Hopefully I don't have that issue when I come back home next week...

I miss the CLE...  Sad



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2946 times:

The PD reported that the city is spending almost half a million on fixes for the new glycol system. I'd love to read the contract; it sounds as if CLE specified the system instead of the system performance.


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User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2936 times:
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It looks like we are going to get slammed unless the winds change unexpectedly:

"A lake effect snow warning remains in effect until 6 am EST
Friday.

Lake effect snow bands will move onshore from Lake Erie during the
early morning hours Thursday and continue through Friday morning.
Snow accumulations for the Thursday morning rush hour will be 1
to 3 inches and roads will likely be slick. The snow will be heavy
at times Thursday into Thursday night with a chance of thunder
snow. Winds will also be gusty which will cause blowing and
drifting snow. Snow accumulations of 5 to 10 inches are expected
on Thursday... with an additional 3 to 7 inches Thursday night. The
greatest totals will be south and east of Cleveland and some areas
can expect storm total snowfall of a foot or more by Friday
morning.

If you will be traveling across the region be prepared for rapid
changes in Road and visibility conditions. Roads across the
warning region will become snow covered. Stay tuned to NOAA
Weather Radio and other radio and TV stations for further details
or updates."



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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
The company IS experienced in deicing-in Montreal. In fact, heard tonight that some of their more experienced deicers were to be in town for this winter even to make sure the cluster of tuesday isn't repeated, and to maybe train the newbies a little better.

And forgive CLE757's anger-he's about as anti-management as anyone can get.

Experienced?...thats a joke!...3hrs to get de-iced?....Lots of Flights are being cancelled right now, and its getting worse..The former de-icers are just watching this and laughing, but remember CO hub ops wanted this!



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User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2008 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2861 times:

Quoting Cle757 (Reply 11):
The EPA told CLE they had to have a remote area for de-icing so that the fluid would not run into drains and the creek. The city then asked Continental to do the de-icing but some folks in Hub Ops thought it would be too much of a hassel...and now a company that has no idea what their doing is spraying planes.

My question is why can't each of the respective airlines do their *own* deicing at this pad?


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2817 times:
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Well being here in Cleveland it is a Winter wonderland today.


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User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

Why am I stuck going to college at BGSU, 110 miles from my home near Cleveland? Man, I think Toledo and vincity barely gets snow out here...

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 19):
Well being here in Cleveland it is a Winter wonderland today.

We've already gotten about 4 inches here on the far west side, and it's supposed to keep snowing till mornig. This is NOT gonna be fun tonight!


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2772 times:
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Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 21):
We've already gotten about 4 inches here on the far west side, and it's supposed to keep snowing till mornig. This is NOT gonna be fun tonight!

I know this being the west side we usually get far less than the east side of the state.



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8310 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2720 times:

God help those poor schmucks on the de-ice ramp. 4 hour delays, anyone?


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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2707 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 23):
God help those poor schmucks on the de-ice ramp. 4 hour delays, anyone?

Bring back the Continental De-Icers!...Oh wait this is saving us money!



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25 Post contains images Piercey : This is weird. Padua early dismissed @ 1:30 due to poor road conditions, and I'm home later then I'd usually be Strongsville also earlied @ 1:50 (and
26 Redngold : Ops on Runway 28 due to Lake Effect cumulonimbus along the 24s approach. Oh, for a day off from the finals and research paper...
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