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Tornado In NW London - Any Met Reports?  
User currently offlineJezUK77 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 35 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3787 times:

Hi all

I was alerted on the news today that tornado ripped through an area on NW London. So I promptly checked the recent LHR METARs and found this near the time when the twister took place!

EGLL 071050Z 24028G47KT 6000 -TSRA FEW016 SCT030CB 07/05 Q0988 RERA TEMPO 24020G35KT

Can anyone provide me with further reports or any pilots landing at LHR who may have noticed some cell activity on the weather radar screens on the aircraft's flight deck.

The storm made the top story on the national news today, I have a link if anyone is interested!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/07/world/main2237580.shtml

Thanks for the help!

Jeremy

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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3784 times:
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Sky interviewed a guy who was on a BA flight to Glasgow and he said it was the worst turbulence he ever experienced.


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineExpress1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3719 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 1):

that turbulence probably due to too much scotch that coursed turbulence in his head while walking up the plane to the loo lol

dave


User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4570 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

Here is a CNN report on it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/07/uk.tornado/index.html

It says that while the U.K. sees 30 a year on average it is rare to get one that does this kind of damage.



Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3626 times:

Quoting Express1 (Reply 2):
that turbulence probably due to too much scotch that coursed turbulence in his head while walking up the plane to the loo lol

Your probably not too far from the truth there.
I was at work today and BA's passenger disruption lines were opened due to flight delays in the London area.



There's flying and then there's flying
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3596 times:

All I know is that at about 11 to 12 this morning a huge storm passed over with strong winds and heavy rain. Flights into Northolt were coming in at around 11.15am, I was in an exam and saw the biz jet get pushed around a bit and then 146 shot passed the window at a very high speed.
Was a bit scary and distracting to have wind, rain and a few aircraft flying over your collage.


User currently offlineXXXX10 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3564 times:

Not sure if it's related but there is a flight BA 89R on it's way back to LHR, anyone have any info on this

User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3564 times:

Welcome to England County, Texas, ma'am.

It's a little windy today so buckle up and drive safe, y'heah?


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3530 times:

flew from Gatwick today and it was very windy when we took off plane we hit some turbulence


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineIcLCY From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

Was walking the dog past LCY lunchtime when wind picked up considerably those manx & VLM craft were wobbled around a fair bit. Plenty of white knuckles im sure, I was nervous just watching.

User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3447 times:

Heres a unknown fact: According to statistics, per square mile, the British Isles is the most tornado prone area in the world.

User currently offlineSouthSky From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

^Wow... I did not know that. Very interesting.

User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

Yeah its strange. In fact I can think of at least two (quite small) twisters that occured within a few kms of my house in the last few years (I live just outside Dublin).

[Edited 2006-12-08 02:41:47]

User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3397 times:

Quote:
The storm, with winds of around 150 mph (240 kph), ripped roofs off some homes, tore down walls and trees, and left streets strewn with debris. One car was buried under fallen bricks, video footage from the scene showed.

-CNN

150mph winds? That is a very strong F2 on the Fujita Scale IIRC. I believe if the winds would've been 156mph or stronger, it would've been an F3, which is considered to be a large tornado.

And the fact that ENGLAND saw a tornado of this magnitude is very rare. Yet, this one hit LONDON, one of the largest, most populous metropolises around.

On the weather channel, they have that TV show, "It could happen tomorrow," and they talked about what if a massive tornado was to hit Dallas... Well, a rare tornado just did strike a very large city. Amazing! Yet, terrifying and devastating...

And after reading these posts about folks on some of the planes in the area, thank goodness yins guys came through it alright! I am sure many of yins had to have been nervous, scared, etc...



Do not bring stranger girt into your room. The stranger girt is dangerous, it will hurt your life.
User currently offlinePumaknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

I flew into Luton from Belfast just after the tornado had struck London. We were on the gust line of the storm.

After 35 years of flying back and forth between Ireland and Luton, I thought I had seen it all. I was wrong.

It was by far the worst turbulence I have ever encountered. The pilot warnd us to expect some turbluence. The crew strapepd in well before landing (far more than normal). From 5000 down to the runway the plane was just being thrown around the sky. The wings regularly dipped to around 30deg angle. The cross wind was extremely gusty. You could actually feel the aircraft crabbing. And the fuselage was visibly shimmering.

Irnoically the actual touchdown was a smooth as anything.....maybe the plane was glad to be down and decided to be gentle on itself Smile


User currently offlineImiakhtar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3163 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 10):
the British Isles is the most tornado prone area in the world

Tornados are quite rare. Most of the time when they do happen, they form in the countryside and go un-reported.We had one last year in the north-west which nearly ripped through the middle of a BAE systems factory.
Quite scary when you only live a few miles away!


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3136 times:

I saw the storm that produced the tornado, it was very scary especially as I was sitting in a silent hall in the middle of an exam. The pictures in newspapers and on the BBC show quite a big funnel not like the Birmingham twister which didn't touchdown but just hovered above the city.

There was disruption into Northolt and Heathrow but no major delays.


User currently offlineJezUK77 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

Thanks for the information guys - it was real interesting!

I guess I have been lucky really never to have experienced really bad turbulence! However, I remember flying back from NAP to STN in 2002 and seeing a thunderstorm below whilst crossing the Alps in Austria/Switzerland but the ride was so smooth despite the many deviations to avoid CBs!

I wish we had a pic from above the cloud - highly unlikely I know but it must be an awesome sight!


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

Quoting Imiakhtar (Reply 15):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 10):
the British Isles is the most tornado prone area in the world

Tornados are quite rare. Most of the time when they do happen, they form in the countryside and go un-reported.We had one last year in the north-west which nearly ripped through the middle of a BAE systems factory.
Quite scary when you only live a few miles away!

I didn't know that the State of Oklahoma was in the British Isles!!!  stirthepot  Big grin



Do not bring stranger girt into your room. The stranger girt is dangerous, it will hurt your life.
User currently offlineSJUboeingGirl From Puerto Rico, joined Nov 2004, 274 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

wow that's scary, I don't want to be flying around one of those , I prefer to be inside a hurricane with a wc-130 than flying a c152 near a tornado


If it's not Boeing, I ain't Going!
User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 18):
Quoting Imiakhtar (Reply 15):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 10):
the British Isles is the most tornado prone area in the world

Tornados are quite rare. Most of the time when they do happen, they form in the countryside and go un-reported.We had one last year in the north-west which nearly ripped through the middle of a BAE systems factory.
Quite scary when you only live a few miles away!

I didn't know that the State of Oklahoma was in the British Isles!!!

That's because it isn't. It's in Kansas.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Ten million people in London and NO ONE got the flippin' thing on video? Cripes.

Mark

[Edited 2006-12-12 04:33:34]

User currently offlineHammerb32 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 16):
I saw the storm that produced the tornado, it was very scary especially as I was sitting in a silent hall in the middle of an exam. The pictures in newspapers and on the BBC show quite a big funnel not like the Birmingham twister which didn't touchdown but just hovered above the city.

Shamrock,

The Bham tornado did indeed touch down and was classed as a F2 - F3 tornado. The Bham twister injured around 30 people, 4 seriously and destroyed houses accross 3 different Bham suburbs. It also caused considerable damage to a school and supermarket in the Sparkbrook area. The Association of British Insurers estimated the damage from the London tornado at around £10 million, the Bham twister caused damage valued in excess of £500 million.


User currently offlineImiakhtar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 18):
I didn't know that the State of Oklahoma was in the British Isles!!!



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 20):
That's because it isn't. It's in Kansas

http://www.baesystems.co.uk/facts/awards/locations5.htm#lancashire

Hope this clears things up!


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

Quoting Pumaknight (Reply 14):

Thanks for the information. I didn't know it touched down and caused so much damage, I just saw the mobile phone images and saw some wind and clouds but not a tornado funnel.
The picture I provided above was pretty shocking when I live a few miles from the area hit.


User currently offlineHammerb32 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

Shamrock,

I had to laugh at a report on the BBC which opened with the line:

'following last years mini tornado in Birmingham today a real one touched down here in London'

Cheeky gets!

In all seriousness I understand the relative strength of the 2 plus the other recent tornados in Peterboro and Aberystwyth were pretty much the same. However the Brum one lasted much longer therefore caused more damage.


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