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40 MIN Enough At LAX For AA-UA.  
User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5274 times:

Is forty minutes enough to land at the American Eagle remote terminal and take a shuttle back to AA (Is there a shuttle to UA or not?) walk lanside, take a shuttle to UA terminal, check a bag, go through security, and make my 7:10 flight to DEN on a 757? I usually take this routing but I usually take the 8:07 flight to DEN, and not the earlier 7:10.

Also, the SBA flights to LAX on AE usually run 5-15 minutes late, so it could be a low as a 25 minute layover.

My other option is to leave the North Santa Barbara County at 3:30-3:45 am and drive to LAX.

What would you guys do?


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25346 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5253 times:

The UA baggage check cut off is 30mins prior.

If you had zero bags, and checked-in online prior you might just make it prior to doors closing at UA.



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 84
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5223 times:

I wouldn't do it. I would drive.

Actually, I would fly United nonstop SBA-DEN (or alternately connect at lax from UAX)

NS


User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1832 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5192 times:
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in answer to your first question, there are no airside shuttles between the terminals, only the inter-terminal shuttle which runs on the lower baggage claim level outside of security.

With just a 40 minute connection, I can almost guarantee you would not make your United flight. if you land perfectly on time, allow five minutes just to get off the plane, another five minutes to get from the remote terminal to gate 44, where the shuttles come in, about halfway down terminal four, another 5 minutes to get from gate 44 to the entrance then downstairs to the lower level and outside. you have to wait for the shuttle bus, which run every 5-15 minutes depending on the time of day, so that's at least another five minutes. getting from terminal four to terminal seven is yet another challenge and during rush hour, it can be time consuming, because there is no dedicated shuttle lane, the shuttles are fighting the traffic just like everyone else. then you have to run upstairs to checkin, checkin, go through security, then make the possibly long hike to your gate.

Personally, i would book myself on the 807 then run like hell to try and make the 710 on standy, if you make it, great, if not, you're not sol.



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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3194 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5173 times:

I wouldn't do it. But with a longer connection, I'd take the shuttle from the American Eagle terminal to Terminal 6, a shuttle they run for the Continental passengers since CO codeshares on the Eagle flights at LAX. I would also try to get American to check the bag through to United so you don't have to claim it.

If you were to have to take a shuttle to Terminal 4 and go landside to United, it would probably be faster to walk (run?) than to wait for the shuttle bus.


User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2501 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5140 times:

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User currently offlineCschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

No way, won't make it.

I, too, was wondering...why not SBA - DEN (except it's probably a lot more expensive), or United Express to LAX? Also, AA Eagle would interline a bag at LAX - conceivably you might make it but the bag wouldn't, which probably causes some other problem. Plus there's still a lot of walking involved. And you can end up waiting a while for an Eagle bus at the commuter terminal. Or maybe drive to Burbank, instead?


User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4945 times:

It seems like I would not make it. I will either drive, take a flight from OXR-LAX for a layover of just over an hour, take a 600am flight from ONT-DEN on TED, or take the UAX SBA-DEN nonstop.

I wanted to meet someone in LAX, but that won't happen if I take the SBA or ONT-DEN flights.

Thanks for all your input



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

Why would you need to recheck your bag? AA interlines with UA...let them handle the transfer.

That being said, there's no way I would try a 40 minute connection at LAX.

I think you're asking for trouble.



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User currently offlineLegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4859 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 3):
Personally, i would book myself on the 807 then run like hell to try and make the 710 on standy, if you make it, great, if not, you're not sol.

I agree. You do not want to risk missing your flight. If you miss your flight you are considered a no show. I would book the later flight and follow Northstar's advice and pull a O.J. Simpson and run like hell to make the earlier flight.
Regards,
Mark in MKE



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User currently offlineWJ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4820 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 8):
Why would you need to recheck your bag? AA interlines with UA...let them handle the transfer.

And just hope your bag shows up in the following 48 hours. I wouldn't connect between domestic airlines even with a 5 hour connection. At least if you come off an international you get to claim your bag so you know it's there. Otherwise, trouble.



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4787 times:

Quoting WJ (Reply 10):

I have done it once, AA-US, with a 9 hour layover and it worked out fine. Maybe because of the fact that it was a nine hour layover.



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2699 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4779 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
Is forty minutes enough to land at the American Eagle remote terminal and take a shuttle back to AA (Is there a shuttle to UA or not?) walk lanside, take a shuttle to UA terminal, check a bag, go through security, and make my 7:10 flight to DEN on a 757?

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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4779 times:

I wouldn't attempt it to save my life. For an AA-UA connection, I'd say 90 minutes minimum. If you were to do so though, I'd take the Shuttle to T5 (Delta terminal) and then from there, you can take the T5-T6 tunnel (it's open now) and walk over to T6, then walk to T7/8 if necessary - no need to exit security then. Still, 60 minutes is pushing it there; 90 is comfortable, since you need to wait on the Shuttle and then from T5, it's a 10 minute (T6) to 20 minute (T8) walk, and that's if you walk fast.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
(Is there a shuttle to UA or not?)

There is the CO/DL shuttle from their codeshare with AE that goes to T6.

Quoting Cschleic (Reply 6):
Or maybe drive to Burbank, instead?

Or Oxnard. Or LAX

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 7):
take a flight from OXR-LAX for a layover of just over an hour, take a 600am flight from ONT-DEN on TED, or take the UAX SBA-DEN nonstop.

Why in the world would you drive to ONT and not LAX? LAX is at least an hour closer to Santa Barbara. You could also fly SBP-DEN on UAX.



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4763 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
Why in the world would you drive to ONT and not LAX? LAX is at least an hour closer to Santa Barbara

No, ONT is much more convenient and in some cases, a shorter drive than to LAX.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
SBP-DEN

UAX has SFO and LAX flights from SBP I believe, no DEN.



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4759 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 15):
No, ONT is much more convenient and in some cases, a shorter drive than to LAX.

No it absolutely isn't a shorter drive. Never. Ever. It is more than 40 miles further to ONT and you have to drive through similarly heavy traffic, with no PCH alternate like LAX has. Further, ONT is only marginally more convinient as an airport facility, given that LAX is built for O&D.

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 15):
UAX has SFO and LAX flights from SBP I believe, no DEN.

Correct, I read that wrong somewhere.



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User currently offlineWJ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4729 times:

Seriously, I just suggest you just arrive to LAX, get your bag, rent a car and drive up to Santa Barbara. It's a nice drive, Go to in&out, stop in Malibu, make a day of it...


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4718 times:

Quoting WJ (Reply 17):
Seriously, I just suggest you just arrive to LAX, get your bag, rent a car and drive up to Santa Barbara. It's a nice drive, Go to in&out, stop in Malibu, make a day of it...

He lives in Santa Barbara and is flying out.

[Edited 2006-12-11 07:24:47]


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4700 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):

I personally don't like 40 minute layovers when I'm on the same airline, yet alone have to change airlines, claim a bag, recheck it, go through security, transfer terminals, etc.


User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2091 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4694 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 1):
The UA baggage check cut off is 30mins prior.

At LAX (as well as all the other UA hubs and several other large airports) baggage cut off is 45 minutes before the flight, so you will already be too late to check the bag.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21526 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

Interline the bag. If it doesn't arrive, collect it later.

As long as the AE flight is on time, you can make it, barely. Check in with UA in advance, either online or at SBA. The AE shuttle goes to T6, so you do NOT need to reclear security as T6 and T7/8 are connected in the sterile zone.

It can be done, if you must, but if you miss it, you'll be standing by on the next DEN flight.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
Or Oxnard.

And do what there? Go to the harbor and have some seafood?  Wink



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4683 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 19):
I personally don't like 40 minute layovers when I'm on the same airline, yet alone have to change airlines, claim a bag, recheck it, go through security, transfer terminals, etc.

He wouldn't have to recheck the bag, as AA and UA interline baggage. Further, it is unlikely he would have to go through security again as there is a T4-T6 shuttle, which allows you to skip security to get on to a United flight. Still, it would be very tight.

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 20):
At LAX (as well as all the other UA hubs and several other large airports) baggage cut off is 45 minutes before the flight, so you will already be too late to check the bag.

United schedules shorter connections than that, so that is non-sensical.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
He wouldn't have to recheck the bag, as AA and UA interline baggage. Further, it is unlikely he would have to go through security again as there is a T4-T6 shuttle, which allows you to skip security to get on to a United flight. Still, it would be very tight.

Even with this being the case, I still wouldn't chance. Even if I was confident in being able to make the connection, I wouldn't chance my luggage not making it. Whenever I know I'll be checking bags, I want a minimum one hour layover. If I'm all carry-on, 45 minutes is my minimum unless there's no other option.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
Quoting AADC10 (Reply 20):
At LAX (as well as all the other UA hubs and several other large airports) baggage cut off is 45 minutes before the flight, so you will already be too late to check the bag.

United schedules shorter connections than that, so that is non-sensical.

The key word here is you used "connection", which implies the bag doesn't have to go through security again. It sounds like the 45 minute cutoff is for the origin airport where the luggage is first checked at the ticket counter.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 23):
The key word here is you used "connection", which implies the bag doesn't have to go through security again. It sounds like the 45 minute cutoff is for the origin airport where the luggage is first checked at the ticket counter.

This is a connection, not an O&D flight.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 23):
Even with this being the case, I still wouldn't chance. Even if I was confident in being able to make the connection, I wouldn't chance my luggage not making it. Whenever I know I'll be checking bags, I want a minimum one hour layover. If I'm all carry-on, 45 minutes is my minimum unless there's no other option.

That is simply a personal preference, not something that should be relied upon as a rule. I have had bags make a 35 minute connection at ORD, while I made the same flight despite having to do a long C to B connection.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 24):
Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 23):
The key word here is you used "connection", which implies the bag doesn't have to go through security again. It sounds like the 45 minute cutoff is for the origin airport where the luggage is first checked at the ticket counter.

This is a connection, not an O&D flight.

That was my point, hence why even is United does have a "45 minute" rule when initially checking the baggage at the ticket counter, the bag is transfering flights at LAX, and thus thiss rule would have no effect on the connecting flight. AADC10's post was regarding checking bags at the LAX ticket counter.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 24):
That is simply a personal preference, not something that should be relied upon as a rule. I have had bags make a 35 minute connection at ORD, while I made the same flight despite having to do a long C to B connection.

Hence the use of the phrases "I want" and "my minimum".


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