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Will Airbus's "XWB-A350" Be Delivered On Time?  
User currently offlineOU812 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4048 times:

What are the odds of Airbus delivering the new A350 on time? If I'm not mistaken the A350 endeavour is an even bigger challenge than the A380. Given Airbus's current problems with the A380, could Airbus be setting themselves up for yet another problematic aircraft launch similar to that of the A380?


http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...ats+200-order+target+for+A350.html


DATE:09/01/06
SOURCE:Flight International
Forgeard: Airbus beats 200-order target for A350

He said too that the price of fuel would be the main factor in determining how fast industry moves to developing an aircraft overwhelmingly built using composites. "If fuel is very expensive, you need an ultra-light aircraft, even if the cost of manufacture is higher," he said.

Airbus will spend €450 million ($540 million) in 2007-08 in developing composite technology. "Low cost industrial composites are the big challenge," he said. "But we will be ready to react."


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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4033 times:

I'd like to think they learnt their lesson with the A380. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they won't 'Foxtrot' it up.

User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20746 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

Quoting OU812 (Thread starter):
What are the odds of Airbus delivering the new A350 on time?

About the same odds that there'll be 1,000 more threads just like this before their first customer flies one, plus all the threads already existing on Airbus' woes that have come before it.



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User currently offlineFlysherwood From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4008 times:

One would hope that they have learned from their mistakes on the A380. I just wonder about the "2-headed" leadership of an industrial giant like Airbus. But even before that. They have to contend with raising capital. Dealing with a weakening US Dollar and calm the fears of long time customers who are a little gun-shy about Airbus and delays.

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31124 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3999 times:
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Quoting OU812 (Thread starter):
What are the odds of Airbus delivering the new A350 on time?

I imagine the same question was asked by someone here the day Boeing announced the launch of the 787 program, but it's about as impossible to even wild-bum guess now as it was then.

Some will be snide and say since the A380 (and, evidently, other Airbus programs) were late, so must the A350XWB. Some will be supportive and say that Airbus has "learned their lesson" and will therefore flawlessly execute to plan meeting every program milestone to the minute.

We have no clue and we won't know until the very minute the first A350XWB takes to the air. Just as it will be with the 787.

Boeing could be absolutely perfect in their execution and the very second the 787 is supposed to roll out of Door 6 to the flight line she cuts a tire on a railroad spike dropped by an eagle flying overhead and has to be rolled back.

Or the A350XWB could be perfectly on-time and the day before first flight an earthquake hits TLS and drops a roof beam on her, cleaving the fuselage in two.

Honestly, such guesses are at best, useless, and at worst, invitations to inflammatory dialogue. I'm not casting aspersions on you, personally, OU812. Many ask questions out of a genuine desire to know, but what they wish to know cannot be answered at the time they ask the question.  no 

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
About the same odds that there'll be 1,000 more threads just like this before their first customer flies one, plus all the threads already existing on Airbus' woes that have come before it.

No doubt.  Sad


User currently offlineOU812 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3976 times:

Quoting Flysherwood (Reply 3):
One would hope that they have learned from their mistakes on the A380.

Currently, it doesn't look as though they have learned their lesson when Airbus have blokes like Allan McArtor acting so unprofessionally.

Is this guy the new Noel Forgeard?

http://iht.com/articles/2006/12/06/business/boeing.php?page=1

Of course, these events have not gone unnoticed at Airbus, which has seen some orders for its A380 migrate to Boeing planes in recent weeks. Allan McArtor, chairman of Airbus North America, called the new 747-8 "a brand new Edsel," a reference to one of the most famous flops in automotive history.

"The 747 is on its last legs," McArtor said during an interview. "It doesn't have any legs to stand one. Boeing is trying to breathe life into a 1960s era design," he said.

"There is only so much you can do with a plane," McArtor added. "But it is irritating. Boeing is getting orders only because of our inability to meet demand. Had we not stumbled with the A380, there would not be orders like the Lufthansa order for the 747-800."


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Well , Airbus is now stronger , they´ve learned with the 380 , I think we will have
a great A/C , boeing should not overlook Airbus so much they have the backing of 4 governments and they´ll never let die Airbus if it´s necessary the governments
will give Airbus some billions more .
May we don´t like it , but Airbus is too precious for Europe.
And this 380 problems are not technical problems there are production problems
so Airbus can develop such a great A/C as the 787 or better ...


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