PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1952 posts, RR: 26 Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 15389 times:
I had to fly down to LAX today for a meeting, and I noticed that QF had 6 744 aircraft on the ground at the same time. 4 of them were parked in their usual spot by the maintenance hangers just west of the Bradley Terminal. One aircraft was parked at the Bradley terminal, and one was being towed towards the hangers. Does QF really have 6 flights a day from LAX? or was there an odd charter or tech delay? Anyone know?
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21045 posts, RR: 60 Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 15394 times:
There are 3 non-stop SYD frequencies today.
1 MEL non-stop
1 MEL via AKL
1 SYD via Brisbane.
That makes 6.
It's just a typical day for QF.
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21045 posts, RR: 60 Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15351 times:
I take that back, as QF108 looks to be canceled. So though 6 744s are scheduled to leave for Australia tonight, only 5 will fly, so it's not a typical day for QF. Delays are typical, but a full cancelation, not so much.
This is going to muck up a lot of people, as being a Friday in december, these evening flights are "chock o' block".
I flew QF 149 the other day and it was overbooked, so much they bumped some J pax into F.
Only last week QF 8 was quite empty. 4F, 87Y, and 1/3rd full J (don't know the number). They said that the night flights were both booked solid, but the day flight is rarely so. Being in F on that flight, having 3 cabin crew for 4 people was a bit excessive, but the service was amazing!! Every time I got up, I would return and my bed would be remade and personal items reorganized, water refilled, etc.
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Briguy1974 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15377 times:
Does any other airport in QF route map have 6 747-4 on the ground at one time? Other than SYD of course...MEL maybe? Brisbane? I doubt it..
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21045 posts, RR: 60 Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15351 times:
Quoting PA110 (Reply 2): Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of the 3rd SYD nonstop.
I'm pretty sure it's 4 days a week, though they are looking to make it 7 days.
The SYD-LAX is flight QF107.
The LAX-SYD is flight QF8 if it leaves at noon, and QF108 if it leaves at night.
I was on QF8, scheduled to leave at 12:45 but not leaving until about 14:30. This made curfew diversion a real possibility, but they flew their asses off and got us onto the ground at 22:54. The captain seemed quite proud of this and kept us updated about it. We flew low and fast, at 615MPH ground speed the whole way (against the wind, that is FAST, not bad for a 40 year old design). Luckily we were light (even with extra cargo), so they could load up on fuel and waste it at high speed cruise. Flight time of under 13 hours.
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AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 19266 posts, RR: 63 Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15268 times:
QANTAS077 From China, joined Jan 2004, 5751 posts, RR: 48 Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15203 times:
Quoting Briguy1974 (Reply 4): Does any other airport in QF route map have 6 747-4 on the ground at one time?
only heathrow...they have 4 on the ground at one time, Singapore only gets 3 QF 744's per day now, rest of the operations are A330-300 with the exception of Brisbane which is using the 743.
the 6 you saw was the correct amount..
QF 149, 107, 175, 93, 11 & 25. no cancellations were noted.
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21045 posts, RR: 60 Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 15163 times:
Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 8): QF 149, 107, 175, 93, 11 & 25. no cancellations were noted.
QF 108 looks to be cancelled tonight, which is an inbound SYD flight, not any of the inbound LAX flights. But what do I know, you know everything about QF at least 1/2 the time so it would seem...
BTW - they do have noise canceling headphones in F and they do let you into ALL QANTAS clubs if you are connecting to an international J or F QF flight. All you need show is the international J or F boarding pass. The QANTAS club at PER is huge, but filled up completely at 11PM with 3 transcons leaving soon (767 to MEL, 738 to BNE, 743 to SYD).
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21045 posts, RR: 60 Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15010 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 5): I'm pretty sure it's 4 days a week, though they are looking to make it 7 days.
The SYD-LAX is flight QF107.
The LAX-SYD is flight QF8 if it leaves at noon, and QF108 if it leaves at night.
So, it's even more complicated than this.
QF107 flies every day. As does QF11. It's QF149 that's only 4 days a week.
QF108 is thus daily as well. QF12 as well. QF8 returns 3 times a week in the morning. In addition, there is a once weekly QF94 and once weekly QF150. That not only adds up to 19 weekly LAX-SYD (one more than the reverse direction), but one day a week (Thursday) there are 4 LAX-SYD non-stops.
There are also 5 weekly BNE-LAX roundtrips, 7 MEL-LAX and 6 LAX-MEL a week (accounts for the imbalance on SYD non-stops). And the daily MEL-AKL-LAX roundtrips.
Despite the variances, you will see 5 or 6 744s at LAX daily. But the mix of flight numbers and destinations depends on the day.
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Teamspeedy From Australia, joined Aug 2006, 57 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15007 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 5): We flew low and fast, at 615MPH ground speed the whole way (against the wind, that is FAST, not bad for a 40 year old design). Luckily we were light (even with extra cargo), so they could load up on fuel and waste it at high speed cruise. Flight time of under 13 hours.
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 9): QF 108 looks to be cancelled tonight, which is an inbound SYD flight, not any of the inbound LAX flights
did it complete the JFK - LAX sector of the flight??
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21045 posts, RR: 60 Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 14972 times:
Quoting Teamspeedy (Reply 11): did it complete the JFK - LAX sector of the flight??
Looks like QF is saying QF108 is only going to be delayed an hour, not canceled as the other system said.
The reason the other system I checked may have said it is canceled is because it will not depart LAX on the date scheduled, but the next day. Some systems report things wrong when this happens.
So all flights are going tonight.
QF12 and QF26 are off, QF94 is 35 min late, QF108 is 1 hour late, QF150 is on time, and QF176 is as well.
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QANTAS077 From China, joined Jan 2004, 5751 posts, RR: 48 Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 14956 times:
Quoting Teamspeedy (Reply 11): did it complete the JFK - LAX sector of the flight??
yes...there are no cancellations for QF ex Los Angeles to Australia, friday always has 6 x QF 747's on the ground at one time & 7 flights if you include the LAX-JFK-LAX sector. only issue was the fact that QF107 Lax-Jfk-Lax was running around 1hr late on friday and 2hrs late on the QF108 return.
Los Angeles on Friday, 08 December 2006 at 10:00 hrs.
Flight No. To Scheduled Departure Actual Departure Status
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22258 posts, RR: 50 Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 14898 times:
With the large operation Qantas has at LAX, it will be interesting if they can manage to beat out Mexicana this year to be the largest foreign carrier at the airport. They lost out on the 2005 title by a mere 72 passengers!
So far for the first 10 months of year MX is leading QF by about 10,000 passengers, however each carrier moves over 100,000 people per month so the numbers could shift in favor of Qantas.
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FXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7048 posts, RR: 92 Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 14844 times:
Was at our LAX ramp last week for training. The nice AA guys let me out on their ramp to photo.
This doesn't operate daily. QF only operate BNE-LAX/LAX-BNE 5x weekly. The LAX-BNE flight that lands into BNE on a Saturday morning comes via SYD. Essentially, this flight does a triangle operating LAX-SYD-BNE-LAX. That's the only variation QF has on the LAX-BNE routing.
Kaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2210 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 14751 times:
By the way, that place QF parks its planes, that area used to be owned by TWA, and now AA right? I heard that QF also does maintenance at the AA hangers there. Is that correct?
Also, does AA get payed by QF for parking its aircraft there?
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21045 posts, RR: 60 Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14590 times:
According to QF, QF94 is to SYD once a week. It's LAX-SYD-MEL on Thursdays. Why they don't use a different flight number? Maybe to not confuse MEL pax?
Quoting DJ748 (Reply 17): Essentially, this flight does a triangle operating LAX-SYD-BNE-LAX.
The jet may do the triangle, but the flight number does not.
There is once a week 175 SYD-BNE-LAX leaving SYD Sat, arriving LAX Sat, and once a week 176 LAX-BNE-SYD leaving LAX Sun, arriving SYD Tue. That plane does not RON at LAX. The other 4 LAX-BNE flights (175/176) require a connection to SYD, which I didn't realize at first.
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QFFlyer From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 338 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14558 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20): According to QF, QF94 is to SYD once a week. It's LAX-SYD-MEL on Thursdays. Why they don't use a different flight number? Maybe to not confuse MEL pax?
I would be interested to find out where QF note this, as far as I am aware this is the direct LAX-MEL route thus the dedicated 744ER.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25869 posts, RR: 79 Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 14384 times:
Quoting QFFlyer (Reply 20): I would be interested to find out where QF note this, as far as I am aware this is the direct LAX-MEL route thus the dedicated 744ER.
Um, not just 1. That would be 2 744ERs required to fly the round trip of over 28 hours.
Quoting Columba (Reply 21): No wonder they stick to the A380 !!
Not if it misses its range targets, especially considering that the 748I can load full passengers and full cargo and make LAX-MEL non-stop both ways.
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McMax From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 296 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 14345 times:
Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 17): By the way, that place QF parks its planes, that area used to be owned by TWA, and now AA right? I heard that QF also does maintenance at the AA hangers there. Is that correct?
Also, does AA get payed by QF for parking its aircraft there?
Not quite sure about the maintenance area, but QF does run its SYD flights through AA's Terminal 4. QF even helped pay for the upgrade and expansion of the AA Admirals Club, too, which apparently gives them priority over AA for the SYD flights. My friend is an AA FA, and sometimes their late-night arrivals from Hawaii are delayed on the ground after arrival waiting for the QF flights to depart Terminal 4.
ClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4528 posts, RR: 25 Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 14279 times:
Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 17): By the way, that place QF parks its planes, that area used to be owned by TWA, and now AA right? I heard that QF also does maintenance at the AA hangers there. Is that correct?
Qantas have opened a maintenance base in LAX. That old TWA hanger is now a Qantas hanger. They decided to maintain the aircraft in LAX to save money (ie - get higher utilisation out of them) rather than just doing it in Sydney.
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
25 Aussie747: QF has it's own maintenance facility at LAX and is used whilst planes are idle at LAX during the day usually for A checks etc. Not quite sure if they
26 Jfk777: Can't wait to see what happens when the A380 arrives. I bet they keep the same schedule since it works. Given the unique nature of Australia to USA ro
27 QANTAS077: what makes you think those routes will eventuate with the 787?
28 Laxintl: QF leases a single wide-body bay. Not the entire hangar.
29 Madairdrie: Where is the diversion airport if you arrive late? Kenneth
31 QF108: Not 100% sure about this, but Im thinking it would be BNE for diversions, they have no curfew restrictions, strange that the biggest city in Australi
33 QFFlyer: Sorry I was not clearer. I was refering to the route [93/94] being an 744ER one, the only one where you can [almost] guarantee to be on an ER. Cheers
34 Gemuser: In the past they have also used NAN. Which makes sence from a fuel point of view. Gemuser
35 Zkpilot: NAN is almost directly enroute but is not preferrable for more than a refuelling stop. AKL, BNE, MEL are the other main alternatives to SYD. SYD is l
36 Vincewy: With the curfew at SYD, what happen when a flight is diverted to, say BNE? Do they bus all passengers to SYD from BNE or do they wait til next day?
37 Zkpilot: If its less than a few hours probably just stay on the aircraft then continue on. Otherwise put them in a hotel for the night or put them in the Qant
38 Ikramerica: Go to the QF website and look at their timetable. It is clearly indicated that on Thursdays, the flight is LAX-SYD-MEL rather than straight to MEL. I
39 Laxintl: Actualy on the few rare occasions that the daytime QF8 is delayed, I've seen Qantas actualy hold the flight until the evening in Los Angeles in order
40 BNE: As much as I heard last Thursday QF94 operated LAX-SYD-MEL due to severe fires and smoke in Victoria. QF94 never goes via SYD unless its a diversion
41 Zkpilot: That is the main reason for delay at LAX... this problem doesn't really happen most other places... Due to the design of the terminals, runways, taxi
42 QFFlyer: I am sorry that this is offending you. In fact I did check the Qantas timetable before posting just to check. It does show that on the 7th December Q
43 QANTAS077: if the flight diverts it will reflect this in the QF timetable & arrivals/departures listings...always has, always will. now go read the timetable an
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