SQ777 From Singapore, joined May 1999, 42 posts, RR: 0 Posted (16 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1691 times:
I observe that 747-400 vibrates quite badly the moment its wheels leave the runway during takeoff. The vibration usually lasts three to five seconds. Other airplane such as 767 and 777 does not vibrate so badly. Does anybody have any explanation for this?
VIflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (16 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1685 times:
It most likely sounds like it's vibration due to the spining of the wheels on the main landing gear. Most likely due to the fact that the wheels have to stop before they can be stowed. On a 767 only has 8 wheels (four to a truck) on it main landing gear and the 777 has 12 (six to a truck) vs. the 747 which has 16 (4 to a truck, 4 trucks in total). So I would expect a more noticable vibration on lift off. I'm not saying I'm right but that makes the most sense to me.
DC-10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (16 years 10 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1685 times:
it's the wheels on the main gear still spinning..all 16! Before they can be stowed they must stop spinning otherwise a gyroscoping effect occures. Simply put its just the series of movements while the gear is in transit
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8628 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (16 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
All true, but I would add that the vibration from individual wheels that are out of balance (even fractionally) can often be felt much more acutely after lift-off, cos as they track along the runway, that keeps the vibration in some kind of check, but once they start spinning freely the vibration can be a lot more noticeable. Part of the retraction sequence is to brake the wheels to a halt, and often you can feel the frequency of the vibration change (reduce) as the brakes take hold. It's not dangerous, but it can give you a bit of a fright.
The first time I noticed that vibration after lift-off was as a teenager, I'd just read a book about a Lufthansa 747 that crashed in 1975 after takeoff at Nairobi cos the slats weren't set (shades of the NW MD80 accident at Detroit). The plane stalled and all the passenger accounts in this book described the vibration and pre-stall buffet. I thought the same thing was happening. Nothing is worse than knowing a little bit, cos you think you know A LOT and scare yourself (and your bad-flyer Mum travelling with you). Such naivete!
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