CVG72 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 161 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8783 times:
Top 10 US Cities to see the A380 (speculation)
1. New York JFK
2. Los Angeles LAX
3. Chicago ORD
4. Atlanta ATL (Not from DL, at least)
5. Houston IAH
6. Washington, DC IAD
7. Boston BOS
8. Minneapolis MSP
9. Detroit DTW
10. Dallas DFW
BOE773 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8765 times:
Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2): Here's a ranking of the top 30 airports around the world in terms of international passenger traffic for the 12 months ending August, 2006:
1. LONDON, GB (LHR)
If one were to exclude the European Continental traffic,
where would LHR rank?
Thks.
BoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 57 Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8755 times:
LAXdude1023 From Lebanon, joined Sep 2006, 6779 posts, RR: 25 Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8733 times:
The only airports that I think will see the A380 in the immediate future are JFK and LAX. Others might follow, but those are the two that should be the highest priority. Los Angeles and New York are the only markets big enough to warrant the A380 ASAP.
EDIT: Im refering only to airports in the US.
[Edited 2006-12-10 03:02:05]
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AirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8717 times:
Quoting BOE773 (Reply 4): If one were to exclude the European Continental traffic,
where would LHR rank?
I don't quite understand, or see the point of, the question as the OP specifically pointed out international passengers. European continental traffic is international, so why would it be excluded?
Star_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8714 times:
Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2): Here's a ranking of the top 30 airports around the world in terms of international passenger traffic for the 12 months ending August, 2006:
1 LONDON, GB (LHR)
2 PARIS, FR (CDG)
3 FRANKFURT, DE (FRA)
4 ALTA, NO (ALF)
5 HONG KONG, CN (HKG)
6 SINGAPORE, SG (SIN)
7 LONDON, GB (LGW)
I'm VERY suspicious about these results - Alta, Norway as number 5? I'm even suspicious about Dublin being no. 16, but that's a different story...
Clipper136 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 292 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8692 times:
You can include MCO on the list for US Cities.
I would put MCO in the Top 10 US cities for the A380.
Virgin will almost definitely send one to mco (next summer 3 x 747's from LGW, 2 747's from MAN on certain days)
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8650 times:
Quoting CVG72 (Reply 3): 4. Atlanta ATL (Not from DL, at least)
ATL has already publicly stated last year that the A380 is not welcome. ATL does not want to pay for the improvements that only supports the A380 as it wouldnt benefit the other carriers serving ATL.
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SJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8637 times:
Quoting Bbobbo (Reply 2): Here's a ranking of the top 30 airports around the world in terms of international passenger traffic for the 12 months ending August, 2006:
I can't think of a more useless list. The list makes it look like STN and MAD are somehow bigger airports than ORD, because they have flights to such far away destinations as CDG and FRA. SFO doesn't even make the list but TPE is there because its on an Island and every flight is an international flight.
AirplaneFan From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 231 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8634 times:
Are there any possibilities of a carrier flying the A380 on schedule flights to an airport in the Caribbean?
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 15 Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8621 times:
Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 13): I can't think of a more useless list. The list makes it look like STN and MAD are somehow bigger airports than ORD, because they have flights to such far away destinations as CDG and FRA. SFO doesn't even make the list but TPE is there because its on an Island and every flight is an international flight.
The list refers to the amound of international passenger traffic which MAD does see more then ORD.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8599 times:
Possible destinations? Just about every major airport. Silly question.
LIKELY destinations? PROBABLE destinations? That's a better question.
Quoting B773ER (Thread starter): I think that the possible A380 Destinations are:
Think anything you want, but there is easily obtainable knowledge on your list. Every airport on that list will see the A380 relatively soon, with the possible exception of ORD.
I don't see ATL, IAH, DFW, BOS, MSP, DTW getting the A380 any time soon. Possible? Again, anything's possible, but I assume the thread starter was referring to probable, not possible, airports.
Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 9): Virgin will almost definitely send one to mco
VS is unlikely to fly the A380 at this point, so MCO seeing it is a long shot right now.
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Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65 Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8586 times:
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 6): The only airports that I think will see the A380 in the immediate future are JFK and LAX. Others might follow, but those are the two that should be the highest priority. Los Angeles and New York are the only markets big enough to warrant the A380 ASAP.
EDIT: Im refering only to airports in the US.
Don't forget SFO. There is a good chance someone may fly WhaleJets there. The airport is already ready.
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 15 Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8526 times:
Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 21): Yea, I know. To such far away places as ORY, MAN, STN, FRA, AMS and every where else the A320 goes in Europe. Like I said, the list is useless.
No... Like the places Iberia, Air Madrid, Air Europa, Pullmantur, Air Comet, Aerolineas Argentinas, Continental, US Airways, Thai, Pluna, Aeromexico, Avianca, Qatar, Egypt Air, and other airlines like such send their aircraft from MAD that carry a large amount of international passengers.
BoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 57 Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8514 times:
Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 9): You can include MCO on the list for US Cities.
VS is the only carrier that would have done that... No future plans for VS to acquire it now.
Quoting Zvezda (Reply 19): Don't forget SFO. There is a good chance someone may fly WhaleJets there. The airport is already ready.
B773ER already states SFO in his opening post. I do not see it though in the near future. Only LAX & JFK.
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25 AlitaliaMD11: Qantas, Virgin Atlantic, and Lufthansa could be potential A380 visitors.
26 Gemuser: Then lets look at who is getting aircraft first. My understanding the first three are SQ, EK & QF. [If you have better info please share, QF first de
27 777FlyGuy: Good point. Even if VS were getting the a/c sooner (if they do at all), would MCO really be high on the list? I know they operate multiple 744's, but
28 Laxintl: While certainly not set in concrete the following carriers have previously informed the City of Los Angeles that they would utilize the A380 on LAX se
29 BOE773: Because it skews the traffic in favor of LHR even though it is considered part of Europe. By the way, what is the annual passenger figure for Contine
30 UAEflyer: AUH NRT PEK And S.Korea, Saudi Arabia, Cairo, and many other Asian & Australian cities[Edited 2006-12-10 05:17:07]
31 Ikramerica: If only LAX had acted with more urgency, the upgrades would be done by now. As it stands, all those SQ and QF A380s are just flying around, waiting t
32 B773ER: what about BOM ?? Will that be a A380 destination for SQ and EK forsure !
33 Laxintl: Ya, with all the A380 delays, the City could certainly have taken it time even further and saved a few dollars by not rushing thru some projects... S
34 JoKeR: Probably... in about 30 years when they become more affordable and Corsair lays their hands on few birds
35 Ikramerica: For once, the glacial pace that things get done here in SoCal has worked in our favor!!!
36 Bbobbo: Well, I'm not the author of that list nor do I have access to the underlying data, so I can't help you out there. Yes, the airports that primarily se
37 Bbobbo: Doesn't seem quite right, does it? It might be a data error, since their YTD numbers don't have Alta in the top 30: http://www.airports.org/cda/aci/d
38 Continental123: MIA is preparing for the A380 so I think they should be on the list.
39 Bbobbo: How about this list--all airports with two consecutive XX's in the airport code: YXX - Abbotsford XXA - Alvesta AXX - Angel Fire BXX - Borama XXJ - B
40 Marcus380: In the List, ALTA, is certainely a mistake, it should be AMS - Amsterdam. which is quoted in the monthly reports on this site Marcus
41 FCAFLYBOY: Which actually translates as: "Delta can't afford one, therefore we will not allow anyone else to send one here"
42 LXA340: I wouldn't be suprised if LH will use the A380 on it's FRA-TLV flights. However the airport would first need to upgrade it's Terminal with A380 double
43 SKA380: LOL I dont even think Alta has any international traffic. 4 ALTA, NO (ALF) 45 322 334 - And this is 10 times Norways population. hehe They still dese
44 FlyLKU: No primary hub airport for a major U.S. airline is going to invest in the upgrades necessary for the A380 so that a foreign flag carrier can come in
45 RCS763AV: It´s still international traffic, plus MAD has lots of flights to Latin America. BTW, doesn´t ORD have tons of flights to Canada, cuz that´s as fa
46 9MMPD: I am sure once Emirates receives all it A380s that all its Australian ports will receive A380 services.
47 LTBEWR: To me, the most likely destinations for the A-380 will be the base cities of the airlines that have it and their major destinations. DBX, SYD, SIN, LH
49 Bbobbo: That certainly seems to be a mistake about Alta. Population and traffic can't necessarily be correlated, though--for example, Singapore: traffic: 32,
50 Jacobin777: Not only is SFO one of the top airports on the list, one of SQ's original plans was to have the A380 fly SQ1/2 which is SIN-HKG-SFO... That being sai
51 Mk777: Most probably will fly to YUL than YYZ, but who knows. BOM, DEL and BLR will all see the A380, Kingfisher (IT) will obviously fly them into these air
52 Jacobin777: I think IT will go to SFO with their A345's....
53 Mk777: Really? So where will they deploy their A380s?? I guess VM is being over ambitious!!?? Well maybe the A380 will come to IAD....yay!! hehehe!!
54 Boeingfever777: Read what I said before you post. I said in the near future... Before 2010. No where did I state that QF, LH, and VS would not fly a A380 their. Also
56 Shane: I can see it working FRA-SFO with LH. MUC-SFO seems to be jam-packed all the time too, but does anyone know if LH plans to dispatch the 380 from MUC?
57 Jacobin777: I think India-UK was their planned A380 routes..possibly to a city or two in the United States.... I think IAD is looking a bit too much for the A380
58 FRAspotter: The first airport that came to my mind as I was reading this was SXM. But is SXM even A380 compatible? Would AF ever think of flying there?
59 QatarA340: Well no one mentioned, DOH is also a destination! QR plans to have 4 A388's!
60 Gemuser: It is possiable that QF will fly the A380 to SFO by 2010, certainly not announced, definately not a sure thing, but possible. Gemuser
61 LAXdude1023: I would think that QF would go daily and year round to SFO before we would see an A380 there. But I could be wrong.
63 Jacobin777: As much as I would like to see QF bring the 744 to SFO every day..I also do not believe we will see a QF 744 everday here at SFO until QF gets their
64 BoeingFever777: Have to agree with LAXdude... QF would most likely go 744 on that route yr round and daily. If it picked up so much I could see them doing a 2x daily
65 Mk777: any ideas?? I think DEL-YYZ would do well with an A380. How about JFK EWR or ORD?
66 Jfk777: CDG is going to be a big A380 city since Air France ordered the plane. In the California SFO & LAX from Qantas, Virgin and Lufthansa. ORD, JFK and IAD
68 USADreamliner: I can't wait for A Singapore-Alta, Dubai-Palma de Mallorca and Sydney-Brussels-Dublin! Singapore Dubai Sydney Beijing Shanghai London JFK LAX Frankfu
69 Phishphan70: SFO was the first airport in the US to say that they were able to handle the A-380, and with SQ, QF, and CX operating daily flights out of SFO, i have
70 Gemuser: SYD-SFO is year round. Rumors are it will go 5 weekly asap as more A330 arrive. As the A380s arrive it should go daily with B744. Thats 2008 (current
71 Jacobin777: I would see AKL-SFO as a potential 787 route over a quad route...especially given that AKL-SFO sees NZ's 777 or 744 during the year.. JFK would proba
72 BoeingFever777: What does the (2) A330-200 outstanding that QF has have anything to do with them flying to SFO 5x weekly? Also DFW? They do not even fly there and if
73 Ikramerica: You are very right. I think that people are overestimating the amount of build up QF can hope to achieve on the USA routes. They've recently added 7
74 Jacobin777: ..especially given that DJ as well as AC want to fly United States-Australia...talk about yields getting hurt... The A380 is terrible when it comes t
75 SkyexRamper: mmm...the other side of the EADS property at some remote hardstand.
76 N503JB: Why CAN, HKG & PEK not on the list. Regards
77 Gemuser: 1) I think its 4 outstanding A333. They free up capacity else where on the system, allowing B744 to be redeployed. 2)QF wants to server DFW. The A380