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Swiss Adds 70th City To Its Network: Valencia  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

SWISS will add the 70th city to its network, Valencia (Spain) eff 10MAR07. This is in addition to new Geneva - Prague service and increased frequency on Geneva - London City by 50% for 2006/07 Winter schedule in Geneva area.

Geneva - London City has increased to 6x daily instead of 4
Geneva - Prague new daily flight starts 12DEC06
Geneva - Valencia (70th city), starts 3 weekly from 10MAR07 and 4th frequency will be added in Summer 2007 timetable.


The addition means SWISS will serve 21 cities out of Geneva, which 12 are operated by code-share partners.

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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1516 times:

Swiss is slightly increasing it's presence again in GVA. The airline is finaly again on the rise at all it's Swiss Airports. In BSL Swiss is also increasing frequency to some destinations such as LCY and MAN. As a side note on time for christmas management gives every employee 2000 CHF as a thank you for the cooperation during the restructuring program of the airline whcih contributed for LX to achieve the positive turnaround.

User currently offlineWerkur767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1497 times:

Any notice if Swiss will increase the South America flights?
The flights from GRU are five times-weekly and the summer season for South America is opening. In the past years...Varig, Vasp and Swissair (Swiss) had together 16 flights weekly, today is only 5. The Swiss flights from GRU to ZRH are always with more than 80 percent of load factor, so..they need to increase the flights sooner as possible. The flights are operated with the Airbus A340-313X.

Cheers,
Werner

User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

The flights to SCL via GRU were increased to 6X weekly with the introduction of the winter timetable at the begining of November.

User currently offlineWerkur767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 3):
The flights to SCL via GRU were increased to 6X weekly with the introduction of the winter timetable at the begining of November.

Thanks for the information. The Swiss flights are operated in code-share with Lufthansa?

Correct me if i'm wrong...Swiss is sold for Lufthansa, so this is the reason of the code-share flights.

lufthansa cancelled the flights for SCL via GRU operated with A340-600s daily flights.

User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

Quoting Werkur767 (Reply 4):
The Swiss flights are operated in code-share with Lufthansa?

SWISS operates 6 weekly ZRH-GRU-SCL. The day that it's not operating to GRU is a codeshare on LH FRA-GRU.

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5448 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

Quoting Werkur767 (Reply 4):
Thanks for the information. The Swiss flights are operated in code-share with Lufthansa?

Correct me if i'm wrong...Swiss is sold for Lufthansa, so this is the reason of the code-share flights.

Yes, Swiss is owned by LH.

User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Swiss and Lufthansa created a mini hub in GRU enabling passengers to easily connect from the LX flight to connect to the LH flight flying to EZE ans vice versa. Both flights arrive and depart GRU at similar times aimed to offer passengers easy connections from ZRH and FRA to EZE and SCL

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4834 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

Is there a chance SWISS could do ZRH-Valencia in the future. I guess Valencia is the only airport on the SWISS network not served from ZRH


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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

As far as I know it's the only real Swiss flight which is not also operated from ZRH. If the flights from GVA will be profitable and a lot of feeder traffic for instance will come from ZRH it would be possible to offer flights from ZRH as well. Is there a particular reason why GVA was chosen for the route and not ZRH at least for now?

[Edited 2006-12-11 23:04:34]

User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1313 times:

Are Swiss expanding their destination list only where LH do not fly or are they independent?

During Swissair days, SR used to have a very popular service to LCA feeding people into ZRH for long haul flights.

This stopped after Swiss was launched, I am not sure if there is any plan to bring it back in the future.


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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5448 posts, RR: 47
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1309 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 10):
During Swissair days, SR used to have a very popular service to LCA feeding people into ZRH for long haul flights.

This stopped after Swiss was launched, I am not sure if there is any plan to bring it back in the future.

LCA is mostly a holiday destination. We have quite a lot of flights from Zurich by Swiss charter (which I used recently) and Edelweiss.

User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

They are more or less independant when it comes to their route selection. As many destinations flown to by LX are also LH destinations. When it comes to open up new routes especially in the Long Haul market which is planned for 2008 when LX will have received their additional 3 A340's there will be mostlikely coordination between LH and LX on the route or routes that will be choosen. But as LH flies to many destinations it is very very likely that it will be a destination where LH flies too as well such as PVG or PEK which are very high up on the list to come into effect

User currently offlineRJ100 From Russia, joined Nov 2000, 4099 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1294 times:

A few additions:

-GVA to VLC is mainly operated due to the America's cup (sailing) that will be held in VLC while last time winner Alinghi is based in GVA.

-The other new route out of GVA is Prague, funny "coincidence" that flyBaboo is operating on both VLC and PRG too.

-BSL to LCY is not going to be expanded as mentioned above but in fact gets cut down from 3 to 2 flights a day (LX is going to start some other routes ex BSL though).

cheers
RJ100


Next: BSL-FRA-LED-DUS-BSL on Lufthansa
User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

I am sorry about that, here the info regarding the new destinations offered from BSL:
Barcelona (4x weekly), Budapest (4x weekly), Manchester (3x weekly), Nice (4x weekly), Prague (4x weekly), Warsaw (3x weekly)

User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 13):
funny "coincidence"

Indeed!

User currently offlineDens From Switzerland, joined Sep 2001, 305 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1186 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 9):
Is there a particular reason why GVA was chosen for the route and not ZRH at least for now?

As already explained, Valencia will help the next America's cup.
But in the past, Crossair operated flights to Valencia, Alicante and Sevilla from Geneva and not from Zurich. These destinations are maybe more popular for Suisse Romands (French speaker in Switzerland) than Swiss Germans.

User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1049 times:

Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (Reply 11):
LCA is mostly a holiday destination. We have quite a lot of flights from Zurich by Swiss charter (which I used recently) and Edelweiss.

I do not disagree with that, however SR used to be able to fill a A320 3-4 times a week (in addition to CY flights which have also good passenger numbers). Need to say that most of the passengers were going to ZRH to continue on a long haul flight.

Hopefully they will change their mind in the future.


CY@Uk
User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1026 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 17):

I don't think we will see a return to LCA anytime soon, LCA is well covered by Belair, Edelweiss Air, CY and a number of foreign charter airlines. Why do you so desperately want LX back at LCA?

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4834 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 987 times:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 13):
-BSL to LCY is not going to be expanded as mentioned above but in fact gets cut down from 3 to 2 flights a day (LX is going to start some other routes ex BSL though).



Quoting LXA340 (Reply 14):
Barcelona (4x weekly), Budapest (4x weekly), Manchester (3x weekly), Nice (4x weekly), Prague (4x weekly), Warsaw (3x weekly)

The rather pathetic BSL expansion. SWISS would, in my opinion, probably do far better keeping LCY 3xDaily, going back to double daily AMS for business passengers, going at least weekdaily to MAN (with a bmi codeshare), increasing WAW to feed into LOT's hub and dropping BCN/BUD/NCE and PRG since they are LoCo dominated


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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5448 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 964 times:

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 18):
Why do you so desperately want LX back at LCA?

Actually they fly to LCA on charter basis. In the last months Hotelplan (and probably other companies) chartered an LX A 320 twice a week for a night flight. This is excellent for LX. The aircraft leaves at about 2200 in Zurich arrives at 0200 at LCA leaves again at 0400 and can be used again for the normal schedule in the morning at ZRH. (these are all approximate times). The aircraft is used the whole night and can be used normal during the day.

User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 920 times:

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 18):
Why do you so desperately want LX back at LCA?

The more the companies the happier a plane fanatic is  Smile


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