8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1279 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5318 times:
I recently saw the new film 'The Holiday' starring Jude Law and Cameron Diaz, where there are two different scenes of the interior of two different BA flights from LHR - LAX and LAX - LHR respectively.
The first scene shows Kate Winslet on her way to LAX, travelling in World Traveller Plus. However, the seats shown are completely different to the current seats today. The material looks more like the 70's material you see on buses, and there are about 10 rows of this shown in the film which makes it look more like World Traveller (economy), instead of the more secluded 4 rows on the real aircraft. They did have the 'World Traveller Plus' head covers though on the seats, which is why I know what class she was travelling in!!
However, in the later scene, which shows Cameron Diaz traveller to Heathrow in First Class, they show the real first class seats at the front of the plane.
Being an aviation AND film enthusiast, I find it fustrating when films do not use real footage of aircraft, airlines, seats, airports etc.
My question is:
Why would they have used real footage of First Class and not World Traveller Plus?
Also, how would they have been able to film with the real First Class seats? Would it have been a mock up set in a studio? Or would they have been allowed to film the First Class on an actual flight?
They also had a scene with Heathrow in it...but it wasn't Heathrow. It was too clean and modern...with high ceilings and lots of glass!
HUYguy From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5292 times:
Sounds like a toughie to me. Although, I do agree with you that it probably wasn't filmed in a real WT+ cabin. Also, maybe the airport with the high ceilings and lots of glass was STN. I'm purely just guessing, but I'm off to see that film on saturday, I'll look out for it!
I too hate it when film makers aren't accurate with their aviation snipets! Its like on Green Street when it shows a Delta plane leaving BOS and Elijah Wood arriving in Heathrow when Delta don't fly there!
BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5213 times:
I think you have partly answered your question. Few people, besides aviation and film enthusiasts, would remember exactly what a BA WT+ or First cabin/seat looked like. The film set directors would try to match the set as far as possible to the real thing, given the budget and availability of products not to mention copyright laws (BA would have to give their permission for their exact cabins to be featured in any film). Filming in a real First cabin would leave very little space for the camera (and other crews) to manoeuvre, and would also inconvenience other passengers, so the crew would have to take over the whole of the cabin. For this reason it is easier to use a studio mock-up, and there are several places where parts of aircraft fuselages (cut in places to allow camera access) are available for film crews to hire.
As regards airports, as long as there is nothing obvious (e.g the Eiffel Tower in the background for an airport being disguised as Tokyo), again who other than aviation and film enthusiasts cares or remembers exactly what the terminals of LHR etc look like in a film? The way LHR/LGW are going, they could film in any inside shopping centre and this might bear a close resemblance to the terminals, if they put up a few airport signs, added a check-in desk or two, and asked Mr Branson to do his usual cameo appearance. The production crew will use the most convenient airport that resembles the airport being featured. Many films have been made at Toronto, being disguised as JFK.
Regarding accuracy of aviation shots, I recently saw a film that was based on a 767, perhaps Red Eye or something similar. It showed an A320 parked at the gate, a L1011 being used for boarding, an Embraer used for taxiing, a 757 filmed at rotation, a DC9 at cruise level, a A340 landing and interior shots on a 767 or was it an A310? Well, not quite as bad as that, but you get my drift.
Also in The Interpreter with Nicole Kidman, she boarded a BA 744 at JFK for the BA direct, non-stop flight from JFK to Johannesburg.
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8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5144 times:
I suppose your right. Other than aviation and film enthusiasts, nobody else is going to care.
So are you saying the First Class shots were most probably filmed in a studio set? If they were, at least the directors used the right seats to make it as realistic as possible! If only they could have done the same for the World Traveller Plus!!
In regards to the airport. I think it was probably just a set. Definately not Stansted. You'll understand why when you see the film. The tall glass ceilings were only in the corner of the airport for the entrance. Stansted has glass walls all round.
For the set however, they used flat LCD screens for live dep/arr with the words 'British Airways Deaprtures' at the top, and 'Welcome to Heathrow' at the bottom. The British Airways logo was written in large letters behind some sort of security desk as well. They were obviously trying to make it one of the British Airways terminals at Heathrow...hopefully Terminal 1, since the flight was departing to LAX!
Anyway, hope you enjoy the film. Perhaps after you have seen it you can add any comments regarding the airport/aircraft scenes!
Geo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5090 times:
I remember a few years ago when the James Bond Die Another Day was filmed the interior shots of First class on a 744 required 2 seats to be removed to allow space for the camera equipment and the lighting and sound setups.
Unless you were to specially configure the interior of an aircraft it would be very difficult to film in flight.
Just this one scene that I saw being filmed involved a very large number of support staff which would have been difficult to properly accomodate on a flight, especialy with the amount of equipment that they had.
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