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Guggenheim To Buy 3 (+1) 777F  
User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nach...ichten-2006-12/artikel-7445840.asp

Mmmh? Guggenheim? I was in their museum in NY once, didn't realise they had an airline.

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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5762 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2547 times:

Well this is probably the three 777F that showed up last month as many here had suspected.


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User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 1):

Being able to read is clearly an advantage:

The order was previously accounted for on Boeing's Orders and Deliveries web site and attributed to an unidentified customer.


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

Almost 50 frames sold... not bad for a freighter, that wasn't launched to long ago!!!

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

Quoting Thorben (Thread starter):
http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nach...ichten-2006-12/artikel-7445840.asp

Mmmh? Guggenheim? I was in their museum in NY once, didn't realise they had an airline.

I guess nobody told Guggenheim that the 777 was "moribund."  Wink


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 4):
I guess nobody told Guggenheim that the 777 was "moribund." Wink

Maybe they needed them before 2017.


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Almost 50 frames sold... not bad for a freighter, that wasn't launched to long ago!!!

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 5):
Maybe they needed them before 2017.

It's hard to call an aircraft "moribund" and doomed when its competitor won't see an EIS for a decade. For many airlines, that is enough service for them to justify the purchase and have it fully amortized.



When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):
It's hard to call an aircraft "moribund" and doomed when its competitor won't see an EIS for a decade. For many airlines, that is enough service for them to justify the purchase and have it fully amortized.

Yes, the EIS for the A350 goes further and further into the future. However, the EIS for the first pax version is already in seven years, less than a decade.

An A330F would make the life of the 777F harder but Airbus seems to be hesitant, because pax A330s do so well.


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 8):
An A330F would make the life of the 777F harder but Airbus seems to be hesitant, because pax A330s do so well.

Where did you get the idea than an A330F would have that effect on the 777F? The 777F has 50% more payload at similar densities than the A330-200F. They are in different markets. If anything, they are complementary.



When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q4/061212a_nr.html

Great purchase. So Guggenheim will now have 777Fs and 748s.



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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 2):
Being able to read is clearly an advantage:

Boor...  Yeah sure

Quoting Thorben (Reply 8):
An A330F would make the life of the 777F harder but
Airbus seems to be hesitant, because pax A330s do so well.

Probably not. The 777F is in a totally different class of freighters as the A332.


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