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UAL Says Looking At 787 And A350  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 47
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14556 times:

Just out on Bloomberg. Headline so far. They're studying replacements for older WB jets.

IMO, I think Boeing will have an advantage here because of possible earlier delivery dates.

[Edited 2006-12-12 19:12:49]


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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14549 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
IMO, I think Noeing will have an advantage here because of possible earlier delivery dates

Noeing? Who are they? I agree with you that Boeing will have the advantage on this one. The boys in Chicago will be taking the L up to Elk Grove and stumping for votes like no other.



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User currently offlineAutoThrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1595 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14546 times:

How many 747 do they have? Couldnt find it on their website. The 748 seems very likely as 747 replacement.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14496 times:

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 2):
How many 747 do they have? Couldnt find it on their website. The 748 seems very likely as 747 replacement.

The could but I'm not sure if UA is ready to go into the 744 replacement market just yet. I think they want to focus on the 767 replacement. They might even go to the 787-10 for the 772A replacement as well.



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14453 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):

Noeing? Who are they? I agree with you that Boeing will have the advantage on this one. The boys in Chicago will be taking the L up to Elk Grove and stumping for votes like no other.

The El doesn't go that far, but the Metra does.

Anyhow, I agree -- BCA has the edge here.



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14418 times:

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 2):
How many 747 do they have? Couldnt find it on their website. The 748 seems very likely as 747 replacement.

Most of UA's Jumbos could be replaced by A350s or B787s flying more frequencies. UA have 7 routes that, due to government restrictions, require a VLA. A fleet of 12 would be needed to fly those 7 routes daily.


User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14415 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):
The boys in Chicago will be taking the L up to Elk Grove and stumping for votes like no other.

Pretty quick it'll be down the street!


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12466 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14384 times:

I would have thought the 773ER would be a better choice for UAL, since there is commonality between them and the 77W is more economic, but in particular, how many routes do they actually need the capacity of the 744 for? By having an aircraft with a smaller Y Class and focusing on the Business end, they're not so reliant on lower yield traffic; the capacity difference between the 77W -v- that of the 744 would mostly be made up of Y Class seats, so why have the exposure.

As for the 787, a perfect replacement for the 763s (788) and early 772s (787-9/10).

I see this going Boeing, but given A's relationship with UAL, they will fight very hard to get the 350 on board.


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14357 times:

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 2):
The 748 seems very likely as 747 replacement.

I would think the 773ER has the edge over the 748i for UA, considering their massive 777 fleet...I hope I'm wrong - I'd love a UA 748i.

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 3):
I think they want to focus on the 767 replacement. They might even go to the 787-10 for the 772A replacement as well.

If we're talking 767 replacement, I'd say the 787 will win handsdown. If we're talking 772 replacement, I'd say it is way too early for a clear choice between the 787-10 and A350XWB.



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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14353 times:
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Home town airline, home town aircraft manufacturer (technically, I don't recognize Boeing's move to Chicago.)

Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
The El doesn't go that far, but the Metra does

Or they could meet at T1



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14327 times:

From what I've read here, Boeing will get the deal, earlier delivery dates and all.

It has been the concensus here at a.net that UA's plan seems to focus on Airbus for narrowbody routes (the 320's and 319's are proving QUITE successful at transcons!), while Boeing gets the nod for wide-body routes.

The 787 medium model (the -8?) will be a perfect replacement for the 767, exactly what it was designed to do. The flexibility of the larger and smaller 787's will allow fleet commonality (always an advantage) as well as cross-trained flight crews.

As a side note, am I the only one planning a trip to fly on a 787 when it becomes available? Destination: not the important part. Transportation: the 787.  cloudnine 



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User currently offlineTeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14266 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
They're studying replacements for older WB jets

What news is there in this? If they are saying an order is imminent that's one thing, but it would be fair to say that every airline on the planet with a need for widebodies is studying the A350 and B787, and most will eventually make a decision. Might as well have a generic "who is likely to pick which?" thread, or start a series focusing on each carrier:

AA: A350 or B787?
DL: A350 or B787?
UA: A350 or B787? and so on.

As for UA, the B788 is the better replacement for their 767's as I don't see them looking to grow capacity via larger aircraft...but what pricing might Airbus offer? We can debate the merits of the aircraft, but each airline will decide based on economics - if the price is right, the less preferred aircraft may still win the order.

[Edited 2006-12-12 19:35:55]


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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14242 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 10):
As a side note, am I the only one planning a trip to fly on a 787 when it becomes available? Destination: not the important part. Transportation: the 787

You do realise it's just going to be like any other plane with the same passengers and the same crappy food? B787-A350, B748-A380 or even B737-A320, does it really matter? They are all as crap as each other in real terms and you'll be bored after a few hours aloft.



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User currently offlineSkytony From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14211 times:

I have been listening to the webcast of the investor meeting in Chicago, during the presentation of the VP of Financial Planning and Analysis, she stated that United is looking at the 787 and A350 XWB for possible widebody replacement and A320 and 737NG for narrowbody. No mention of any other aircraft ie A380, 747-8, 777ER. United will not be needing new airplanes at the earliest 2012-2015.


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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14152 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 9):
(technically, I don't recognize Boeing's move to Chicago.)

That's alright, since the company, shareholders, lawyers, and media do. I think you should simply view the current Boeing as what they are— a holding company for the former Boeing along with McDonnell, North American, and most of Hughes.



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14098 times:

I don´t know, Airbus could use some good news and will fight hard on this one.
A second customer from the US would help them a lot and United might be the only chance for Airbus (NW and CO already have ordered the 787 and will likely merge, AA and Delta are highly unlikely to choose Airbus at all)
At the moment Boeing seems to be the most likely option for UA but I would say it is too early to predict the outcome of this race.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14100 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 10):
As a side note, am I the only one planning a trip to fly on a 787 when it becomes available? Destination: not the important part. Transportation: the 787.

I would if I could justify the expense and the destination to the wife she's the boss!!!  box 

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 11):
What news is there in this?

Well seeing that UA is out of CH. 11 and they have $4bn in cash ($1bn to be used to reduce debtload). They are now going out there and saying they intend to undertake a fleet renewal program.



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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14073 times:

Quoting Skytony (Reply 13):
United is looking at the 787 and A350 XWB for possible widebody replacement and A320 and 737NG for narrowbody. No mention of any other aircraft ie A380, 747-8, 777ER. United will not be needing new airplanes at the earliest 2012-2015.

Well it owuld make sense to stick with the 32X for short haul. Perhaps Airbus will be keen to get a large US customer for the A350XWB and offer them at a price that UA would be stupid to refuse... I don't see this as a sure boeing win at all


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14021 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 12):
You do realise it's just going to be like any other plane with the same passengers and the same crappy food?

I think you missed the point  Yeah sure

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
IMO, I think Boeing will have an advantage here because of possible earlier delivery dates.

Well, not too much earlier than the A350, but I suspect Boeing could provide 2011-2012 delivery slots depending on when UAL makes their decision.

I would strongly favor Boeing for this order. The A350-800 is ill positioned to replace the 767-300 being nearly 30% larger than their 200-seat configuration.


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13977 times:

I see an Airbus order so impossible as Some saw a Boeing order of Part of LH 2 week ago... They´ll never order Airbus

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13978 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 18):
I would strongly favor Boeing for this order. The A350-800 is ill positioned to replace the 767-300 being nearly 30% larger than their 200-seat configuration.

That's another strongreason why UA cold go to Boeing. The nconsequently they could buy the -9 or -10 for the 772A replacment. The -10 will have amazing economics vs the 772A.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13955 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 19):
They´ll never order Airbus

Well UA has ordered Airbus before. They have a lot of A32Xs with more on order. If you're talking about the Widebody order, I think it's tipped in Boeing's favor because the 787-8 matches well as a 767-300 replacement.

Does anyone know if UA have any 767-200s?



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13933 times:

One thing that remains open when it comes to a future 787 fleet at UA is the engine option. All UA widebodies currently operating have only PW4000 engines, along with the 757s being powered by PW2000s. So, this could be a close race for the engine bid. I'm guessing UA will go with the GEnx due to their previous experience with the CF6 on their DC-10s. It would definitely be surprising if they pull an NW and order the Trent 1000 for their 787s, which would be great nonetheless.

User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13909 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 21):
If you're talking about the Widebody order, I think it's tipped

Sorry , I meant just Widebody ,


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13911 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 21):
Does anyone know if UA have any 767-200s?

They were all retired in 2004/2005.


25 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ..no "EL" needed from Boeing HQ to UA future HQ (old Donnelly building)
26 Post contains images TeamAmerica : $4bn certainly sounds like a pile, but then you hear that the majors need to hold something on the order of $3bn in ready cash for operational needs.
27 Myt332 : No I got it completely. I'm saying a plane is a plane no matter how u dress it. To get excited by it is fairly lame.
28 Post contains images NYC777 : An AA order for the 787 is closer than a alot of people think!    [Edited 2006-12-12 20:13:31][Edited 2006-12-12 20:17:32]
29 DfwRevolution : Who on Earth are you to say so? On Airliners.net of all places, you are surprised that someone would be excited to fly a new type of airplane? By you
30 TeamAmerica : Agreed...the rumors are persistent. They've got to guess that they will have cash to pay in 2013 (or whatever), because if they don't they're pretty
31 NYC777 : I think you, me and Scott Carson agree...unless you're Scott Carson. I think we'll see AA move first to make an order the UA and DL in quick successi
32 Stitch : I tend to think Boeing has the edge with this one, though the A350X-1000 could be the spoiler that moves it to Airbus, depending on how UA feels about
33 UAL777UK : I really find it hard to beleive that UA would order the 350XWB over the 787. Even if Airbus throw money at the deal Boeing are unlikely to sit back a
34 Kaitak : I think TeamAmerica has hit the nail on the head here; given the numbers involved, each airline will want to move first and frankly, although talk of
35 Post contains images AirbusfanYYZ : Seems to be the same thinking over here at AC... Cheers, Kaz
36 Myt332 : What do you man who on earth? I'm me and that is my opinion! Go swivel on it if it isn't up to scratch. I just speak out of past experience, nothing
37 FWAERJ : I AAgree... an AA 787 order will be coming first, followed by a UA 787 order (though I would bet that Airbus will try to do everything it can to grab
38 NYC777 : Not unless they could convince Boeing to go with a US-DL deal. Boeing would most certainly make any deal support contingent on US first dropping the
39 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Doesn't look inanimate to me....
40 Post contains images CHRISBA777ER : I think 787 is a shoe-in. Not for political reasons, but I actually think its a better fit for what UA would use it for. I think they could realistica
41 Myt332 : Do you know what that word actually means? Do you believe the B787 is alive?
42 Kaitak : It clearly is not animate, but I see the point being made; we all know that, at the end of the day, the 787 is just an airplane and will end its days,
43 Myt332 : Traveling, exchanging ideas and talking about experiences? I'm glad you see my point. I've been excited about new planes before, like nothing else ma
44 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I was expecting that comment from you.... ...according to Merrium-Webster Dictionary.. inanimate One entry found for inanimate. Main Entry: in·an·i
45 CHRISBA777ER : Get a room you two.
46 SJCRRPAX : I'm thinking B787 to somewhere and A380 Back. Is that possible on one carrier or would I have to swap the return flight ticket with some A-nutter. EI
47 Post contains images DfwRevolution : I'm only going to say this once, so pay attention: eeexxxaaaccctttlllyy You're entitled to an opinion and PanAm747 isn't? Airliners.net is a site ful
48 CHRISBA777ER : LOL you are a mancunian bundle of laughs at the moment - whats gotten into you, and have you done a thread about it in non-av?
49 Stitch : Folks, can we please return to the topic of UAL and the 787/A350 "phantom RFPs" before the moderators come in and close the thread?
50 Post contains images CHRISBA777ER : ...or not a virgin any more...
51 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Piss off you perv.. Anway, getting back to the thread, given UA's fleet, I think the 787 would be a better fit than the A350.... I could see UA purch
52 PanAm747 : I'm me and this is my opinion. This is a forum for those of us who are airplane enthusiasts. Bursting our balloons because you want to point out that
53 CHRISBA777ER : Word - Stitch speaketh the truth. Jacobin777 - shut it. (hehehe nice edit) Right so - to get it back on track - likelihood of UA getting the 787-1000
54 Jacobin777 : If you don't like my comments, you can request the moderators to have my post(s) deleted...
55 CHRISBA777ER : Also - the 787 is the end of a beautiful marriage between UA and PW - discuss.
56 NYC777 : I t hiink it'll make a great replacement for the 772A in their fleet and eventually the 772ERs. They do have some of the oldest 777s arouns (1995) th
57 Post contains images CHRISBA777ER : Dude - meant in jest.
58 NYC777 : All good things must come to an end. I can actually see UA take the 787s with GEnx engines hanging off of them.
59 Post contains images Myt332 : Fine, everyone go hump your aeroplanes with personalities, see if I care. I'm off to kick the shit out of a B757 on Friday. There better be free Vodka
60 CHRISBA777ER : Have UA ever had anything Rolls powered? They had some tristars they inherited from Pan-Am didnt they? I'm struggling to think of anything else. Does
61 Stitch : I believe the 787-10 is a given for UA (assuming they choose the 787 family). What would be interesting is to see if Boeing comes out with a "domesti
62 LTU932 : NW was also expected to choose GE, yet they went with the Trent 1000, much to everyone's surprise because NW has I believe never operated any kind of
63 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Got it.... Regardless...I argee with the comments below.. ... While nothing is a "gimme"....I think Boeing has a great shot at taking the whole wideb
64 Post contains images Matt27 :
65 1337Delta764 : Strange that United is still evaluating the A350. Didn't they apply for the 787 GoldCare contract, along with Delta?
66 NYC777 : AA applied along with UA. I'm not sure about DL. UA wants to evaluate both so as to apply pricing pressure on each of the OEMs and get the best deal
67 BMIFlyer : VLA?? Lee
68 Myt332 : Very Large Aircraft I assumed?
69 Warren747sp : Once again it is obvious the only way Airbus can get this order will be a non-commercial case such as what they have offered U.S. Airways. Remember Ai
70 Post contains images United787 : How old are United's 767-300s? Do they need to be replaced right now? I know that the earliest United could get the 787 is 2012, would they need them
71 Jfk777 : Whatever UA orders, their curreent P&W 777 fleet is almost an entirely different airplane then the 773ER, GE and only GE 90 powered. UA should order t
72 TrojanAE : I'm already saving for that =D, cheapest ticket I can get, I'm going, although I'm going to try to make my stay at the destination worthwhile as well
73 Post contains images Myt332 : I meant I realised they are just machine made to make money. I think anyway? Who knows!
74 American 767 : United's oldest 767-300 dates from 1990 or 1991, I remember it was in the late 80's that United placed the orders and began taking delivery of those i
75 AADC10 : Evaluating does not mean anything. Any airline that uses aircraft in that size category would be foolish to not look at all of their options but that
76 Reggaebird : United may very well go with the A350 because of the exceptional deal that Airbus will offer them to be their first A-level client for this model. Boe
77 FriendlySkies : United cannot fill any A35X on several international routes currently operated by 763's...for this reason alone UA will order the 788. There are no po
78 UA772IAD : However, UA carries a lot of cargo over the Pacific. The 744s are justified for cargo capacity, if not for high yields. Mail, bulk cargo, military eq
79 DTWAGENT : I can't see UA doing anything with getting new aircraft right now. They are dumping alot of money into their new First Class Service and seat/beds on
80 Hiflyer : 350 or 787...interesting debate but suspect the 787 with all it's possible variants will win out....and will first be the 767 replacement. UAL likes b
81 Post contains images TeamAmerica : I hadn't given much thought to cargo, but that's going to be huge, isn't it? All of the next generation aircraft except the A380 represent fairly lar
82 LTU932 : Barring Sioux City, UA has far more experience with GE than with RR (they got CFM powered 737s and have operated the DC-10, even after Sioux City), a
83 ANNOYEDFA : Whos buying this time? The pilots? Flight Attendants? Mechanics?
84 NYC777 : What do you mean?
85 Jacobin777 : Given that GE is basically intertwined with Boeing on the B773ER, B772LR, B772F, and B748I/F..there is no way GE is going to do anything with the A35
86 PVD757 : Would this be a case of who gets the maintenance certification for 787s in N. America, and would this determine whether UA orders the 787 versus the A
87 PM : As I'm sure you know, there aren't any PW engines on UA's Airbuses. They have a third or so of the IAE consortium. And CFM-powered A320s can't get up
88 Planetime : I think you are right on that. 787 is more solid product/plane as of now. UA has a history of Boeing widebodies. As for the 748i there is a chance of
89 AirKorea : Considering UA has operated large 767 fleets, 787-800 and 787-900 are the most ideal replacement in terms of size and range of the aircrafts. And hope
90 RayChuang : Here's one problem: the A350XWB is too much plane for what United really wants, namely a 767 replacement. I think it's like that Boeing will build fo
91 FriendlySkies : I disagree...UA should go for the 8,500 nm range. Having trans-pac capabilities would allow them to maximize profits on routes that can't really fill
92 LTU932 : 32.5% Pratt & Whitney to be precise. True. I almost forgot about the IAEs on their A32x, which do have lots of Pratt in them, along with lots of Roll
93 Chgoflyer : You forgot the passengers... remember they are the only ones who pay ... all you mentioned cash checks
94 United Airline : The B 787 will replace their B 767s and the B 747-8 will replace the B 747-400s
95 Skytony : I think they are just looking at the 787 and the A350.
96 BAW716 : Excuse me, but UA looking at the A350? I doubt it. Also, UA is leveraged to the hilt. Where are they going to get the money to lease the planes, becau
97 Columba : Well UA managers have been in Toulouse last week. They are definitely looking at it, the question is do they really consider the A350 as an option. I
98 Lehpron : Golly gosh, where are all these supposed to go, huh?
99 CHRISBA777ER : Agreed.
100 Skytony : I have been listening to the webcast of the investor meeting in Chicago, during the presentation of the VP of Financial Planning and Analysis, she sta
101 Jacobin777 : Could have been for their narrow body fleet......see what new NSR program Airbus is off too.. I'll repeat it again.. Widebody:Boeing Narrow body:Airb
102 Keesje : I think UA is wiser then that. They will simply llok for the best aircraft and financial conditions for their requirements. A mixed 787-8 (repl 767)
103 Skytony : The VP of Financial Planning and Analysis, during the investor meeting, she stated that United is looking at the 787 and A350 XWB for possible widebod
104 Stitch : Fortunately, UA just doesn't need to load as much fuel for the "shorter" trans-oceanic runs which would reduce the amount of cruise thrust needed to
105 Bbobbo : I'm surprised no one has mentioned the 787/A350 decision in light of the possible UA/CO merger. If the merger goes through, wouldn't the 787 be a lock
106 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I hope they are... I based my comments on what they are looking for..as the A350 series might be a bit too large for their 767 replacement......Also,
107 MotorHussy : Thought the merger talks were between NW and CO! MH
108 Post contains links Bbobbo : See this thread: UA/CO Talking IT'S Official
109 Keesje : We don't know the criteria .. maybe they specified 15 500+ seaters for their slot restricted hub-hub services, efficient 300 seaters from 2013, some
110 Post contains images SSTsomeday : Ugh! This is bad news, and I suppose a sign of the times. I recently flew BA and UA across the pond and felt quite crammed in the 747. The superior h
111 Jacobin777 : Sure we do, they have already stated it......they are replacing their older widebodies..which means a lot of 767's.....and possibly some 777's too...
112 DAYflyer : I bet UAL buys both: 787 for the 767 replacement and the A-350 for the early 777-200 routes.
113 Stitch : I believe it is GE, but it could be Citigroup.
114 Jacobin777 : Why have a subtype when UA know that Boeing is coming out with their own 777-200 replacement....?
115 Columba : It has been on a presentation for the A350. UA has been there with some other airlines -namely LH, AF-KLM, EK and Qatar. Why don´t you all believe
116 Jacobin777 : I only stated it was a possibility...of course UA would be ignorant to not look at the A350...... I don't agree on the 50:50 chance as for the reason
117 United787 : I don't think United will order the A350 for the simple fact: The A350 would not replace the 763, it replaces the 772 and United's oldest 772's are on
118 AADC10 : I do not think the A350XWB would replace the 772. At 9 abreast some models would have 772 capacity but the seats would be smaller. UA has a lot invest
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