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Saudi Arabian AL : A350 And 787?  
User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 2348 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4328 times:

I had a good discussion this afternoon with a 777 SV captain , about fleet renewal at SV.

He told me , SV will buy BOTH A350 and 787 , as they wish to be more European oriented.He didn't tell me how many frames of each type.
In the meantime they will lease A330s (200 or 300 ?) , as already mentionned in Airliners.net.
After this order , the next step will be to find a successor to the MD90.He honestly said , he has no infos about the type to be chosen.

In another way , he also confirmed , only 1 A300-600 is still in service , as the others are stored awaiting their fate.

Take all these infos as you wish , as they are only classified inthe "rumour chapter".

One thing is sure , SV will probably place a huge order next year.

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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
In the meantime they will lease A330s (200 or 300 ?)

Thats a lot of leased A330s  Wink (yes, yes I understand what was really meant...)

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
In another way , he also confirmed , only 1 A300-600 is still in service , as the others are stored awaiting their fate.

I forsee a long and prosperous future ahead of them plying the trade winds carrying christmas goodies and business packages.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 1):
I forsee a long and prosperous future ahead of them plying the trade winds carrying christmas goodies and business packages.

Xmas goodies going to Saudi Arabia? I don't think sooooo.  Wink



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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 2):

Xmas goodies going to Saudi Arabia? I don't think sooooo.

Depends (F) which (e) company (d) owns (e) the (x) aircraft (U) that (P) Christams (S) and (T) where (N) they (T) fly.

 Smile


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4213 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 3):
Depends (F) which (e) company (d) owns (e) the (x) aircraft (U) that (P) Christams (S) and (T) where (N) they (T) fly.

Heh, heh, very clever my friend!  Silly



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User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 872 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4043 times:

I seriously doubt SV would go for the A350. IMO Airbus pitched the size just wrong for a carrier like SV. They don't need a 772 replacement, they want a smaller plane (like the 788), and a larger plane (like the 773ER).

Regarding the A300s, they might go to a package freighter, but bear in mind they are some of the oldest A300-600s around.


User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

Take a look on NAS placing a nice Airbus order soon... together with some Gulfstreams. Seems that we are looking at a healthy ACJ order.


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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4689 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3741 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 5):
Regarding the A300s, they might go to a package freighter, but bear in mind they are some of the oldest A300-600s around.

 checkmark  Also, they are non-R models which aren't that popular with cargo airlines. I think FlyAir could buy some of these aircraft.



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12562 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

Somehow, I think SV would be very offended at any Christmas present!!

This order will be very political; I am sure the French (no doubt the Germans too) took great offence at the decision of SV to order McDD and Boeing aircraft, only, in the early 1990s - particularly as France participated in the first Gulf War. Saudi Arabia naturally wants to keep well in with the Europeans.

I think 787s would certainly be a good choice, but perhaps 320s as an MD90 replacement? Of course, the 787 and A350 are not mutually exclusive. The 787-3/8 would do as an A300 replacement and when the A350-900/1000 finally enter service, the eldest SV 777s will be around 18 years old - not to mention the 747 Classics, if they're even flying then. Of course, it would make more sense, commercially, to order 787-9/10s, but that's where the politics comes in.


User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
he also confirmed , only 1 A300-600 is still in service

Impossible.

Particulary on Saturday there's flight departing from Jeddah to Addis Ababa and Khartoum both departs within 2hrs, all AB6.


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3539 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 7):
I think FlyAir could buy some of these aircraft.

But not yet. Fly Air was groundet about a month ago. I don't know if they restart its operations.


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4689 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

Quoting Viasa (Reply 10):
But not yet. Fly Air was groundet about a month ago. I don't know if they restart its operations.

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks ! But maybe Onur Air.



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User currently offlineMoek2000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
After this order , the next step will be to find a successor to the MD90

Although I love the MD-90, I think it was bad idea on SV choosing the MD90's in the first place, several years ago. They probably would have been better off ordering 737NG's to replace their old 732's.

They must have gotten a deal on the MD-90/MD-11F combo.

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
only 1 A300-600 is still in service , as the others are stored awaiting their fate

From what I heard, most are withdrawn from service. A combination of ERJ's and MD90's replaced the local AB3 routes. I know for a fact that the L1011's are stored in Taif (sad sight).


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