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TUI Orders 65 Boeing Planes  
User currently offlineN1786b From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 560 posts, RR: 17
Posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 17194 times:

This just hit the news wires....

SNIP

TUI Orders Boeing Planes, Will Add Hotels and Cruises (Update1)

By Maria Sheahan

Dec. 15 (Bloomberg) -- TUI AG, the German tourism company that yesterday said it's cutting 3,600 jobs, will upgrade its aircraft with 65 new planes from Boeing Co., add hotels and expand Internet booking to revive sales.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...=conews&tkr=BA:US&sid=ai1AimfvgDEY


And this for AFX:

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The strategy includes merging the Hapagfly and Hapag-Lloyd Express businesses into the new TUIfly.com brand and focusing on the low-cost market via Internet-based sales.

TUI also plans to create its own leasing business for its jets.

In addition, TUI said it will pay about 2.0 bln eur for 65 Boeing jets, scheduled for delivery as of 2010, replacing aircraft required from 2010-2013 without increasing overall capacity.

These aircraft will all become part of TUIfly.com.

http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxn...s&articleid=5898438&action=article


And Reuters:

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TUI said it had ordered 65 Boeing short- and long-haul planes, mostly 737s, worth around 2 billion euros and would combine its airlines under the new brand TUIfly.com to create a 60 million-euro earnings boost.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...5433468_RTRIDST_0_TUI-UPDATE-1.XML



- n1786b

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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 17187 times:

Should be a mix of B737-800 and B737-900ER.


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 17190 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 1):
Should be a mix of B737-800 and B737-900ER.

Hopefully some 787s for long haul as well...



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 17151 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
Hopefully some 787s for long haul as well...

You're not going to get many 787 for $2B


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 17166 times:

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 3):
You're not going to get many 787 for $2B

I meant in a future order  Wink



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 17121 times:

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 3):
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
Hopefully some 787s for long haul as well...
You're not going to get many 787 for $2B

Perhaps, but the article talks about longhaul planes as well, and since you would get even less 748s for $2B and the 763 is probably not an option, it sure sounds like 787 to me  Wink .

Anyway, good news. Is this a new order for Boeing or confirmation of current UFO orders?


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 17099 times:

If this is a new firm order, then Boeing's chances of reaching 1000 by year-end just rose considerably.

User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 17008 times:

Quoting N1786b (Thread starter):
Boeing short- and long-haul planes, mostly 737s,



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
Should be a mix of B737-800 and B737-900ER.



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 3):
You're not going to get many 787 for $2B

The text says mostly737s so this includes a different aircraft type and the 787 is the obvious choice.
757 is not produced anymore, 767 is an outdated aircraft and an order is not likely except they need new aircraft very soon but I doubt that. I think it is safe to say that this have to be 787.
Will the aircraft be for TUI Britain or TUI Germany ?

I would be good news if it were not for that part:

Quoting N1786b (Thread starter):
TUI AG, the German tourism company that yesterday said it's cutting 3,600 jobs, will upgrade its aircraft with 65 new planes from Boeing Co.,



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 16963 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 7):
Will the aircraft be for TUI Britain or TUI Germany ?

Judging by the amount, I'd say both...



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User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1587 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 16884 times:

Go to http://www.tuifly.com to see a computer generated image of the new livery.

Warning, if you thought the blue was bright, you will need your sunglasses!  Wink



Mark



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 16756 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 8):
Judging by the amount, I'd say both...

From what I have heard so far are the aircraft meant for the whole TUI group so 787s as a 767 replacement for Thomsonfly is likely.

Quote:
The strategy includes merging the Hapagfly and Hapag-Lloyd Express businesses into the new TUIfly.com brand and focusing on the low-cost market via Internet-based sales.

TUI also plans to create its own leasing business for its jets.

In addition, TUI said it will pay about 2.0 bln eur for 65 Boeing jets, scheduled for delivery as of 2010, replacing aircraft required from 2010-2013 without increasing overall capacity.

These aircraft will all become part of TUIfly.com.




http://www.hemscott.com/news/latest-news/item.do?newsId=38287486027147

[Edited 2006-12-15 12:26:59]


It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 16736 times:

You don't get a whole lot of B787 if you pay 2 billion Euro for 65 aircraft = 30,7 million Euro per aircraft. Sounds more like 737's to me.


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineAerosol From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 16537 times:

I gues it is crisis meeting time at LTU HQ today - all LC or CHarter Carriers in Germany have placed a major order and/or merged (with the exeption of Condor). There is so much capacity on the market now that one of them will bite the dust - my bets are on LTU!

User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 16473 times:

Quoting Aerosol (Reply 12):
I gues it is crisis meeting time at LTU HQ today - all LC or CHarter Carriers in Germany have placed a major order and/or merged (with the exeption of Condor). There is so much capacity on the market now that one of them will bite the dust - my bets are on LTU!

Yes but except of LTU and DE neither of the LC and Charter airlines in Germany offer longhaul flights. Hapagfly has retired its last A310-300 a while ago.
No if this order is for 737 only like many say it is not such a big threat for LTU.
Regarding DE if the rumors are true and LH will sell its share we will likely see the brand of Condor disappear leaving only LTU as a second German longhaul carrier.



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4217 posts, RR: 89
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16185 times:
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Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 3):
You're not going to get many 787 for $2B



Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 11):
You don't get a whole lot of B787 if you pay 2 billion Euro for 65 aircraft = 30,7 million Euro per aircraft. Sounds more like 737's to me.

TUI have corrected the value of the Boeing order to US$3.9bn or E3.0bn. This has been reported by the company itself and some of the newswires are updating their articles now.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineUAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16112 times:

I wonder how long it will be before order details are released.

UAL747-600


User currently offlineWingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2337 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16081 times:

Hmmm, for all the complaining we do about Boeing sales in Germany it's turning out to be a gut year.

User currently offlineNewSky From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16081 times:

Great news PanAm_DC10, so that means some 787s might well be ordered after all.

[Edited 2006-12-15 14:16:05]

User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16083 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 14):

Perhaps I'm tardy in noticing, nevertheless, congratulations to PanAm_DC10 on his elevation to Forum Moderator.



[Edited 2006-12-15 14:34:02]

User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16026 times:

Quoting Wingman (Reply 16):
Hmmm, for all the complaining we do about Boeing sales in Germany it's turning out to be a gut year.

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About 150 aircraft, including 20 748i. Wathever happened to the politicians trying to influence aircraft orders.  scratchchin 



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User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16025 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 18):
Congratulations to PanAm_DC10 on his elevation to Forum Moderator.

I 2nd that notion..if there is one A.netter who is very un-biased, that's PanAm_DC10......!



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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 16007 times:

Quoting Wingman (Reply 16):
Hmmm, for all the complaining we do about Boeing sales in Germany it's turning out to be a gut year.

Between Air Berlin and TUIfly.com, that's 125 aircraft from Boeing. Add LH's stunning 748 order and that's close to 150 frames. The dollar/euro thing may be at work here, too. But...I'm not complaining!



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 15913 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 20):
Congratulations to PanAm_DC10 on his elevation to Forum Moderator.

I 2nd that notion..if there is one A.netter who is very un-biased, that's PanAm_DC10......!

Absolutely agreed!!



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineTimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1344 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 15882 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 18):
congratulations to PanAm_DC10 on his elevation to Forum Moderator.

Here here!

And congratulations to TUI and Boeing on this latest order!! Always nice to see a mix of a/c in Europe.


User currently onlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2491 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 15768 times:

Actually i'm sure a part of the order (atleast for 737's) will go to ArkeFly... They are the only TUI airline which doesn't own short-haul planes, and have to lease theire planes from BMI, Iberworld, Aventura etc. They already announced there were looking at a couple of 737's (probably about 4-5)

i think the long-haul planes will go tho Britania for replacing the oldest 767's, and to Germany as they still don't own long-haul planes (hence the A310)


25 Flying-Tiger : We still don´t know if there are actually long-haul planes in this order, at the moment I doubt it. Besides Hapag-Lloyd/Fly/whoever decided years ag
26 NA : The 737-800 has a list price of 66 -75 million $ according to boeing.com, a 787 upwards from 138 million. TUI pays 60 million per aircraft included in
27 USAF336TFS : I can't think of anyone who deserves it more. Congratulations PanAm!
28 Post contains images TinkerBelle : Great job Boeing. 1000 orders anybody?? Absolutely right. No one would do a better job as a mederator more than PanAm_DC10 does.
29 DIA : If the order does include the 787, I am curious to know if it will be for one kind only, or two...the 788 and/or the 789.
30 ERAUgrad02 : Maybe the long hauls are 767's...lol hey who knows but i still like this plane. one could only dream...lol.
31 Post contains images Aircellist : Let me add my congratulations to PanAm! Cheers!
32 Post contains links and images AwyrCymru : I have been looking at the press release at the tui-group website [ link - http://www.tui-group.com/en/presseme...2006/20061215_Pressekonferenz.html ]
33 Columba : I am dying to find out.......would be great the first 787 order from Germany !!
34 Post contains images Hamlet69 : That is indeed the question. My gut feeling is it will be a combination of both. And before we get too ahead of ourselves, let's also note this, as p
35 ERAUgrad02 : I hope there are more orders for the -900ER. Tthis is a great airplane. Are therir aircraft 1 class or 2?
36 Bh4007 : Where does Thomsonfly stand in all this:- Will they be merged into Tuifly? (I doubt it though, as they have managed to build up quite a brand for them
37 BA787 : Nice but I really hate the yellow livery of TUIfly, much prefer the beautiful blue
38 2wingtips : With nearly US$4b being spent, there will be a WB component here, and it will be 788s IMO. I wonder if the SU/LY slots will come into play here seeing
39 Aidoair : The thomsonfly brand name will totally disappear within two year unfortunately and the entire tui airlines group will become tuifly. Also apparently
40 BA787 : And you know this how? NA i doubt Thomsonfly will disappear, they are too well known and too well liked. And I will cry if they become yellow
41 Bh4007 : Where will that leave the 787s and the new long haul service? The low-cost model is somewhat incompatible with the above. bh4007
42 777ER : Oh yea, way to go Boeing and Tui. Before this I had never heard of Tui, except New Zealands Tui Beer
43 Post contains links Aidoair : http://www.ttglive.com/NTTG_fullstory.asp?ArticleID=6833 as well as from the TUI AG website where it states that they will intergrate all the airline
44 Humberside : So this will mean HUY will have a scheduled low cost service once this happens? (TOM presently operate HUY-PMI in summer and HUY-ALC in winter on a c
45 Wjcandee : Aaaah. The SkyBus livery. Are German school busses yellow?
46 Post contains links and images Hamlet69 : Okay, Boeing has now issued its own statement regarding today's news: http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q4/061215d_nr.html IMO, the most explan
47 PictureThis : Firstly, it is nice to hear that TUI are going to invest in new Aircraft. I always thought they would be Boeings. And another thing I always thought f
48 MCOflyer : I also agree on this one. MCOflyer
49 Post contains images RayChuang : I may have to wear this pretty soon.
50 Columba : Are there any unconfirmed 787s on Boeing´s website that could be for Tui ?
51 AMSSFO : These are the UFO 787 orders: Unidentified 28-jul-06 2 B787-8 Unidentified 15-sep-06 11 B787-8 Unidentified 25-sep-06 2 B787-8 Unidentified 26-sep-06
52 Post contains images BA787 : If they change the Thomsonfly Livery to Yellow, I will set up a demonstration. I love the blue I have always thought TUI stood for Travel United Inte
53 Columba : Likely only the -8. Hapag-Lloyd before only operated A310 and A300 aircraft the -9 would likely be too big. Interesting would be if the -3 would be c
54 Post contains images Tigerotor77W : And by me as well! Interesting order... we'll see how it pans out.
55 Columba : TUI stands for "Touristik Union International". It is really strange that neither Boeing or TUI-Fly have stated what kind of aircraft and which versi
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