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Paris Diversion 15 DEC 06  
User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 875 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

FLIGHT 2545 was diverted from landing at CDG and landed in LIL today.. Passengers are taking a bus connector from Lille to Paris. I don't really understand how they were able to do this since most of the passengers (outbound from Moscow) are Russian and therefore do not have a schengen visa. Lille also doesn't have FIS facilities so I don't know how that was settled. Interesting how Airfrance.us shows that there was a connector flight, but in reality passengers are taking a bus.


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

It would show as a 'connecting' flight because it is being operated, although not physically, by AF. With CO at EWR, we had a 'flight' to ABE (Allentown, PE) and it was actually a bus service.

As for the Schengen visa situation, where were they headed? LIL is in France as is CDG and you would still need a Schengen visa for an arrival at CDG, I am assuming for a Russian national.

Their 'flight' (bus ride) would have taken them directly to CDG and then to their transfer flight, if they had a connection.

LIL does have foreign arrival facilities, at least French customs and immigrations (DL flew there from the US).

As for US formalities (based on the fact you used airfrance.us as a reference, only DUB and SNN have US customs in Europe for preclearance.



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User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 875 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Well what I meant was that some Russian nationals aren't flying to france as their final destination, and they are just transferring at CDG, at which point they would not need a visa to do so as long as they don't leave international areas.

I don't think LIL has FIS for non-schengen, the fact that Delta used to fly there doesn't mean they still have the services....

Thirdly, the bus transfer had not finished although AF said that the flight had already arrived at CDG. There were two busses, but it still seems a little odd.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9330 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

A solution would be - have one or two customs / immigration officers accompany the bus, drive straight onto the CDG (with an escort follow me of course) airside and let the passengers out as if they had been shuttled from an aircraft remote stand to the terminal


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Quoting Hjulicher (Reply 2):
I don't think LIL has FIS for non-schengen, the fact that Delta used to fly there doesn't mean they still have the services....

www.google.com or any other search engine can be a good friend. Here is the Lille (LIL) airport website:

http://www.lille.aeroport.fr/gb/default.asp

There are flights to LIL from Varna (Bulgaria), Casablanca (Morocco), Djerba (Tunisia) so there are non-Schengen flights to LIL and said formalities. LIL would not dismantle an entire customs formalities because an airline doesn't fly there.

Quoting Hjulicher (Reply 2):
Thirdly, the bus transfer had not finished although AF said that the flight had already arrived at CDG. There were two busses, but it still seems a little odd.

They could have consolidated the two buses under one 'flight' number. Not too weird, but not the norm, either. Chalk it up to sh** happening in the course of a business day.



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User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1841 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1721 times:

CDG was completely in the fog this morning explaining the diversions

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