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User currently offlineNuggetsyl From United States of America, joined May 2006, 213 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3494 times:

Does any one know where i can obtain a copy of the United's fas seniority list?

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User currently offlineHAMAD From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1160 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

hmmm... why do you need that list? i would think that because of security and privacy reasons , it might not be as easy to obtain such a list.


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31003 posts, RR: 86
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3455 times:
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I imagine this is not public knowledge and would be proprietary to both UA and AFA.

User currently offlineTozairport From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

Quoting Nuggetsyl (Thread starter):
Does any one know where i can obtain a copy of the United's fas seniority list?

Yes, I am sure someone knows.  Wink



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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3384 times:

I personally hope that no one releases it to be honest, thats the property of UA

User currently offlineNuggetsyl From United States of America, joined May 2006, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Quoting Tozairport (Reply 3):
Yes, I am sure someone knows.

lol well if that person in the know has a way of getting it to me, i would like to see where i would seatm, if we merge as a date of hire.


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

It might be to see where CO falls in UA seniority and vice versa. More of a measurement calculation as opposed to dire espionage.

A seniority list is not crucial to the airline, but it is for internal departmental (inflight) purposes (who bids what, who flies what positions, who gets better vacation schedules, pay, etc.).

Sometimes you would just wonder where you might fall at another airline, if your seniority crossed over.

I know I would.



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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

Nuggetsyl, interesting question and totally legitimate! I saw in your profile that you're EWR based so it wouldn't be that big of a deal since United does not have a base there anymore. There is some recall rights for the couple hundred FA's that were previously based in EWR put in the contract when that base closed if there was ever a merger with an airline based in EWR.

What is your seniority/hire date? I know we did an enormous hiring in 97/98 which tapered off to about 1,000-1,500 hires a year thru the first half of 01. In 2006 we hired just shy of 1,500 and we have plans for slightly more than that for 2007.

Hope this helps add some context!



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User currently offlineFlyua From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 318 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Jory-- Hello from SFO! I'd heard we were hiring 2200 new flight attendants this year. What happened?

User currently offlineUAORD2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

The FA seniority list is avail only on skynet from a United server. What's your date of hire, and I can tell you where you would fall.

-J


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

Quoting Flyua (Reply 8):
Jory-- Hello from SFO! I'd heard we were hiring 2200 new flight attendants this year. What happened?

Will they hire hearing impaired folks like me?! LOL!



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User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

Quoting Flyua (Reply 8):
Jory-- Hello from SFO! I'd heard we were hiring 2200 new flight attendants this year. What happened?

My UA friends tell me they are still hiring. Apparently there is a huge failure and dropout rate due to the high cost of living in the stations where the newbies are assigned. They can't afford to live away from home on the paltry entry level salaries offered by United (and other airlines). If you can't make your rent in the expensive Dulles, SFO, LAX and ORD areas, then it's time to move home or find another job.


User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1473 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 11):

Also a lot of people have been written up and fired for stupid nonsense. You'd think current FA's would WANT new-hires, seems they don't though they just write them up. It's all about acting like you have power over someone. Good Grief!



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User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 12):
Also a lot of people have been written up and fired for stupid nonsense. You'd think current FA's would WANT new-hires, seems they don't though they just write them up. It's all about acting like you have power over someone. Good Grief!

Gotta love back-stabbing coworkers. biting makes you wonder if they'd watch your back in a real emergency.

Quoting UAORD2000 (Reply 9):
The FA seniority list is avail only on skynet from a United server. What's your date of hire, and I can tell you where you would fall.

Probably your best bet,just looking at a seniority list can be a pain if you don't have someone to guide you,so many issues like leave status,illness,management upgrades cloud the picture.


User currently offlineFreedom747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2744 times:

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 13):
Gotta love back-stabbing coworkers. makes you wonder if they'd watch your back in a real emergency

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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

BiCoastal, I'm afraid your statements of new hire attrition rates are incorrect and unfounded. I just looked at the attrition rate at a recent mgr's meeting and it's absolutely NOT even close to "alarming" levels as some might suggest. Sadly I can't get into specifics due to the confidential nature of this data, though I can say it's about on-par with previous generations of new-hires.

FlyUA, hey there! Anything is possible in regards to the numbers of new hires that are projected for 2007. At this point what we know is the training center will be running at a very healthy clip similiar to what we saw in 2006.

-j



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