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User currently offlinePU752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

Hey there,

Im flying to venezuela next month and i just cant get any flight, Copa MVD-PTY its full until feb and fares a are quite expensive, AR MVD-EZE-CCS also full, any ideas on how to get to CCS with a reasonable fare ? im kinda careless about the stop so 1 or 2 would do it fine.

thx for the info

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33033 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

Try via Miami or Sao Paulo.

However, given the time of year, finding a bargain out of Montevideo is going to be difficult. You might be better off getting a cheap fare to somewhere like Buenos Aires or Santiago and then trying to get from Caracas from there. It still won't be cheap, but Montevideo is a very high fare market, so it will probably be cheaper than from MVD.



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User currently offlineWerkur767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1914 times:

Go to GRU, with G3 or PU, than from GRU to CCS by Varig, they have reasonable fares.

http://www.varig.com.br/

You'll get MVD-GRU-CCS.


Werner from GRU.


User currently offlinePU752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

RG is a possibility and so is LP routing MVD-EZE-LIM-CCS but its quite a long journey and fares i guess are not below 1000usd, my thoughts are on CM, come on ! 1400 usd for a MVD-PTY trip ? ! not sure how those guys are getting 3 months from now on until march full seats ! their business is not on the MVD-PTY route it is on the connections from there to carribean north america and mexico and with the strong position that LAN has in MVD through SCL and then to all latin america im just impressed how those CM guys are filling the seats with those fares!

also MVD-MIA-CCS its over 3500 usd, and EZE-CCS-MIA its 2000 ? ! o mean, Uruguay its quite an exclusive market,expensive and attractive for europenas and american citizens for vacation during southern summer but this has something to do with fares on to/from MVD?

[Edited 2006-12-16 07:10:53]

User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1848 times:

Quoting PU752 (Reply 3):
my thoughts are on CM, come on ! 1400 usd for a MVD-PTY trip ? ! not sure how those guys are getting 3 months from now on until march full seats ! their business is not on the MVD-PTY route it is on the connections from there to carribean north america and mexico and with the strong position that LAN has in MVD through SCL and then to all latin america im just impressed how those CM guys are filling the seats with those fares!

I don't think LAN serves all Latin America from SCL, however, CM does serve quite a lot of Latin America from PTY. Aslo, for a MVD passenger, flying via SCL, when travelling to CCS for example, adds more time to the journey.

Maybe one of the best options for someone trying to get to CCS from MVD would be G3 and CM via GRU or GIG.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
User currently offlinePU752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 4):
Aslo, for a mvd passenger, flying via SCL, when travelling to CCS for example, adds more time to the journey.

Maybe one of the best options for someone trying to get to CCS from mvd would be G3 and CM via GRU or GIG

lol, so MVD-GRU-PTY doesnt add time to my journey! its much more reasonable flyin MVD-SCL-CCS than going up northest to GRU then northwest to PTY and then to the east CCS now thats insane to complete a 10+ hrs flight!
CM's fares are just incredible, 1500usd for rountrip to PTY and the worst thing is that they are filling their seats , i wish that company leave our country ASAP !


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2574 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1731 times:

Quoting PU752 (Reply 5):
i wish that company leave our country ASAP !

Exactly... so the other carriers that didn't leave will charge you USD 3000 for a roundtrip  sarcastic 

Sadly you guys in MVD are stuck with the limited options that you currently have. Maybe if you built a bridge/tunnel across the River Plate from MVD to AEP, fares might come down a bit...

Your best option is Gol to GRU and from there to CCS.

Saludos desde Monterrey,
Luis


User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1731 times:

Quoting PU752 (Reply 5):
lol, so MVD-GRU-PTY doesnt add time to my journey! its much more reasonable flyin MVD-SCL-CCS than going up northest to GRU then northwest to PTY and then to the east CCS now thats insane to complete a 10+ hrs flight!
CM's fares are just incredible, 1500usd for rountrip to PTY and the worst thing is that they are filling their seats , i wish that company leave our country ASAP !

Of course it's more reasonable to fly MVD-CCS-CCS, if there was any availability for that route, as there's none, then only the insane routes are the ones that would take a passenger from MVD to CCS. People shouldn't forget that passengers from MVD like COR, ROS, MDZ , SLA, TUC... can easily fly to AEP and fly out of EZE.
Yes CM are incredible, but they're incredible for a reason, there's a demand for such a service, If Uruguay wasn't a highyield destination, sure CM and other airlines would have left MVD longtime ago. CM hasn't increased their MVD flights to daily because lack of B737, same reason why they choose to make EZE thrice daily instead of opening COR.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33033 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 7):
CM hasn't increased their MVD flights to daily because lack of B737,

Lack of demand is more like it. The flight has not performed to expectations and was quickly reduced to 4x weekly, instead of the planned daily service by winter. Yields are excellent, though.



a.
User currently offlineKiramakora From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

I was curious about this as I am going to be in Uruguay and Venezuela in January and am flying this route. I did a search and found a fare for USD 599 with all taxes included round trip. Here is the itinerary:

Jan 17:

PU 222 MVD (705a) - GRU (925a)
RG 8943 GRU (250p) - CCS (940p) - via BOG

Jan 23:

RG 8943 CCS (1040p) - GRU (630a+1)
PU 223 GRU (1015a) - MVD (1250p)

You even do the good deed of supporting RG! Good luck.


User currently offlinePU752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 7):
passengers from MVD like COR, ROS, MDZ , SLA, TUC... can easily fly to AEP and fly out of EZE.

theres just less than $80 of difference between EZE-PTY and MVD-PTY so its the same, its CM issue not MVD's.

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 7):
Lack of demand is more like it. The flight has not performed to expectations and was quickly reduced to 4x weekly, instead of the planned daily service by winter. Yields are excellent, though.

actually its 5x, lack of demand its not the problem from now on until march/april then its reasonable the lack of demand between PTY and MVD, if im not wrong near the 10-15% of the people boarding CM's flights from MVD actually stays at panama.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 6):
Sadly you guys in MVD are stuck with the limited options that you currently have. Maybe if you built a bridge/tunnel across the River Plate from MVD to AEP, fares might come down a bit...

I think we've got enough for the size of a city like MVD, i cant think in any other carrier flying to MVD in the near feature because MVD its served just as it should, non stop flights to USA and Europe its quite interesting for a city of 1.5 million.

Quoting Kiramakora (Reply 9):
I was curious about this as I am going to be in Uruguay and Venezuela in January and am flying this route. I did a search and found a fare for USD 599 with all taxes included round trip. Here is the itinerary:

thanks! im wondering where did you get that,maybe a link that you could provide me?


User currently online797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1896 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

How would MVD-SCL-CCS with LAN work for you???

You'd fly on the best airline in South America and use their nice 763s with the PTVs plus their great service... I'd go for that.

See how it'd work for you...

Cheers.



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineKiramakora From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1625 times:

Quoting PU752 (Reply 10):
thanks! im wondering where did you get that,maybe a link that you could provide me?

Sure. You could search it through ITA. Alternatively, the booking code for your travel agent is L on RG and W on PU. The fare basis is below (unfortunately, price now is USD 645,90 with all taxes included):

Fare (A1): PU MVDCCS WAP1M fare (rules) $275.00
Tax: Uruguay Ticket Tax $20.60
Fare (A2): PU CCSMVD WAP1M fare (rules) $275.00
Tax: Uruguay Ticket Tax $20.60
Tax: Venezuela Airport Exit Int'l Tax VEB 33600
Tax: Venezuela Airport Departure Tax VEB 84000

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total for 1 adult passenger: $645.90
(as of Monday, December 18, 2006 10:59pm)


User currently offlineKiramakora From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1624 times:

I just checked and you could even go PU/RG on the outbound and TA/PU on the inbound via LIM and EZE and still pay the same amount on the same date.

User currently offlinePU752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1612 times:

Quoting Kiramakora (Reply 12):
Sure. You could search it through ITA. Alternatively, the booking code for your travel agent is L on RG and W on PU. The fare basis is below (unfortunately, price now is USD 645,90 with all taxes included):

Fare (A1): PU MVDCCS WAP1M fare (rules) $275.00
Tax: Uruguay Ticket Tax $20.60
Fare (A2): PU CCSMVD WAP1M fare (rules) $275.00
Tax: Uruguay Ticket Tax $20.60
Tax: Venezuela Airport Exit Int'l Tax VEB 33600
Tax: Venezuela Airport Departure Tax VEB 84000

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total for 1 adult passenger: $645.90
(as of Monday, December 18, 2006 10:59pm)

im getting an over $900 fare on GRU-CCS-GRU on RG, site that ticket youre saying its only available for purchase online?, and how come theres a $300usd difference when we're flying on same company/flights

[Edited 2006-12-19 05:38:41]

[Edited 2006-12-19 05:41:49]

User currently offlineKiramakora From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

Quoting PU752 (Reply 14):
im getting an over $900 fare on GRU-CCS-GRU on RG, site that ticket youre saying its only available for purchase online?, and how come theres a $300usd difference when we're flying on same company/flights

Go to the ITA site and put ANY dates in January and you will get the USD 645 fare I am seeing. After that, print out the itinerary and take it to your agent. They will be able to ticket it for you using the fare basis I outlined above.


User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Quoting Kiramakora (Reply 15):
Go to the ITA site and put ANY dates in January and you will get the USD 645 fare I am seeing. After that, print out the itinerary and take it to your agent. They will be able to ticket it for you using the fare basis I outlined above.

Sometimes there are fares which must be sold outside Latinamerica. Doublecheck the fare rules.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
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