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Sea-Tac Delays Going On NOW  
User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5460 times:

Nobody is taking off or landing at SEA right now...according to King5.com.

Anybody know more info? There are pics that show long lines on the taxiways, but no planes are moving.


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5455 times:

SEA TRACON was on back-up power most of the day due the storms earlier that knocked out the commercial power. That back-up power quit (Out of fuel? We saw that happen after the east coast blackout some years back) and after their 30 minutes of battery power was used up, they were out of juice, so I suspect they're trying to set-up an ad-hoc TRACON at the center.

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5443 times:

If thats the case, they should have the planes on the taxiway to go back to the terminal. They've been sitting duck for a quite awhile now...


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9511 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5440 times:

I believe that BFI (Boeing Field in Seattle) is currently closed. Those storms are creating havoc. This has been a horrible season for SEA weather.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5440 times:

Where are the inbounds being diverted to? Is PDX open? PAE, perhaps?


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9511 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5432 times:

Breaking News- A complete power failure in the radar facility for Sea-Tac airport has resulted in a ground stop. Just a few planes are taking off at pilot discretion, and incoming planes are required to do a visual approach in coordination with the tower, one by one. All Seattle-bound flights nationwide that have yet to take off are on hold.

Governor Gregoire just declared a state of emergency for Washington.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5424 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 5):
Just a few planes are taking off at pilot discretion

Sounds like AS will take-off anyway, I saw 2 AS 73G's lining up on the taxiway as well as 1 UA A319.



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User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5407 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 5):
A complete power failure in the radar facility for Sea-Tac airport has resulted in a ground stop.

Pretty surprising really... you would think they would be able to get power into that facility...



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5386 times:

Breaking News- Flights are back to normal at Sea-Tac airport after a complete power failure at the radar facility--PER King5.com


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5376 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
I believe that BFI (Boeing Field in Seattle) is currently closed.

BFI is not closed, per se, but they're taking big delays since they're also within SEA TRACON's airspace.

Traffic should start moving again shortly, albeit slowly, once the ad-hoc TRACON at center gets rolling...


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5368 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 8):
Breaking News- Flights are back to normal at Sea-Tac airport after a complete power failure at the radar facility--PER King5.com

Take it with a grain of salt... Even if the power came back on right this second, it'd be quite awhile before all the flights got back to "normal"...

[Edited 2006-12-16 03:00:52]

User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5294 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 5):
Breaking News- A complete power failure in the radar facility for Sea-Tac airport has resulted in a ground stop. Just a few planes are taking off at pilot discretion, and incoming planes are required to do a visual approach in coordination with the tower, one by one. All Seattle-bound flights nationwide that have yet to take off are on hold.

This from the FAA officially:

Quoting FAA:
Due to EQUIPMENT/POWER OUTAGE, there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, Seattle, WA (SEA). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 1 hour and 16 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "Delays by Destination".

BFI, PAE, BLI and YVR all look good as does PDX. Hopefully they can solve the power mess at SEA-TAC. The Pacific/Northwest is finally getting a true winter that they have long been overdue for. Looks as if El Nino is taking effect this year.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5262 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 11):
Looks as if El Nino is taking effect this year.

Alot of people were wondering about El Nino...if it was coming or not for a quite awhile.



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User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5241 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
Alot of people were wondering about El Nino...if it was coming or not for a quite awhile.

It is.. notice how quite that Atlantic was this year?



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 13):
notice how quite that Atlantic was this year

yeah, not much of a hurricane season.



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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 7):
Pretty surprising really... you would think they would be able to get power into that facility...

Have you seen the news about how badly our power infrastructure was damaged? This is the worst power outage we've ever had around here. My power has been out for over 24 hours now. (We have a generator, which is how I'm able to get on A.net.)



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User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5091 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 14):
yeah, not much of a hurricane season.

That's all thanks to the shear that's induced by our little Spanish friend...

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 15):
Have you seen the news about how badly our power infrastructure was damaged?

Yes.. I can understand *how* it might have been that they failed.. I'm just surprised they didn't have something going BEFORE the power failed there... Not blaming anyone, just found it quite literally, surprising..



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5087 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
Alot of people were wondering about El Nino...if it was coming or not for a quite awhile.

It has been expected now, and it did end up having an effect on the upper level winds over the Atlantic this past summer/fall which suppressed tropical cyclone development, or helped to contribute to their early demise.

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 15):
Have you seen the news about how badly our power infrastructure was damaged? This is the worst power outage we've ever had around here. My power has been out for over 24 hours now. (We have a generator, which is how I'm able to get on A.net.)

My fiancee Denise tells me they have had lots of outages up on Vancouver Island (she lives in Nanaimo). When it goes that long it really starts to suck! The day after Christmas 3 years ago I lost power to my home here in SLC for 72 hours. No worry; UP&L gave me a $100.00 (USD) credit, and I didn't have to pay them for three months!   

[Edited 2006-12-16 06:00:46]


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User currently offlineATCGOD From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 661 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 7):
Pretty surprising really... you would think they would be able to get power into that facility...

You'd think at the very least they'd have radio power and would be able to route aircraft via local non-radar procedures.


User currently offline707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5002 times:

I'm beginning to think there are very few of us who have power up here. Sea-Tac sounds fairly normal now but from here it is sitting in a sea of black. And it's cold (for us.) Sure smells "seasonal" with a million fireplaces going.

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4990 times:

My parents still are without power...luckly they have a generator. I hope, when I fly home next Saturday (23rd) that things will be calm.... Oh, wait, I shouldnt jinx it....  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3056 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4963 times:

My wife just called me from AS69 sitting on the SEA tarmac. AS69 is enroute to KTN and JNU. Its about about three hours late taking off.

This aircraft was either AS23 or AS29 inbound from ORD which was late. AS23 made an unscheduled stop at GEG.

Earlier this evening I saw many flights flying donuts just to the southeast of the SEATAC airport on flightaware.com, I now know why.



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User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4945 times:

My damn flight to SEA from RDM just got cancelled cause of weather/radar outages, stupid QX costomer service agent rookies dont have a clue what the hell is going on. dealy us for an hour and a half then just to cancel us. now i have to wait until tomorrow morning to fly to SEA, then i have less then 40 minutes to make my connection to EWR. so if my flight to SEA is delayed at all, im screwed

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4942 times:

Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 22):
stupid QX costomer service agent rookies dont have a clue what the hell is going on. dealy us for an hour and a half then just to cancel us.

WOAH! Dude! Image doesn't always tell the agents why the delay/cancellations. Ive had the same problem when I was a CSA.



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4872 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 20):
My parents still are without power...luckly they have a generator. I hope, when I fly home next Saturday (23rd) that things will be calm.... Oh, wait, I shouldnt jinx it....

Don't jinx me! I fly SLC-YVR also on the 23rd! I then have just a 2.5 hour window to get through customs, get to the rental car counter and get to the BC Ferries dock/terminal down the road at Tsawwassen. Then it's a two hour ride across the straits to Nanaimo/Duke Point. Even the smallest mess up and I'm screwed

Quoting FAA @2245hrs PST for SEA status:
This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 3 hours and 17 minutes.

When it rains, it pours. It's getting worse folks!



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25 Chugach : Getting ready to take AS 154 ANC-SEA, connecting on to PDX. Hope all is back to normal.
26 RentonView : I'm one of the lucky few with power in the Seattle suburbs. My neighborhood is on an isolated hill in Renton, and for some reason we never lost power.
27 707lvr : Uh ... SEA is an outpost of semi-normalcy right now in a sea of nowhere near normal at all. I wouldn't count on anything for a few days.
28 RoseFlyer : SEA is still delayed on Saturday. Power is still out to so much of the city. This storm gives memories of the January storm in 1991. I know my house
29 AirframeAS : Ah yes, the memories!!! That was a hella lot of snow too!!!
30 Tomcat : Desert Storm you mean? Indeed, many Irakies suffered power outages for a while after that storm but I was not aware about Seattle... I'm flying out o
31 AirframeAS : We had a really bad snowstorm that year. I remember it as if it happened yesterday because it was the first year for me in Jr. High school AND living
32 Post contains images ScarletHarlot : We got power back last night, but things are still really messy on the Eastside. I noticed on the way down 405 and up 520 that you could totally tell
33 F9Animal : Just got my power back at 11:00AM. What a nightmare. I wonder how the ride felt Thursday night? I went over I-90 at 11:00PM on Thursday during the ro
34 Bcbhokie : I took a drive down to Renton today and noticed the exact same thing. I live in downtown Redmond at the end of 520 and got my power back at 1AM Satur
35 Post contains images OPNLguy : Don't forget a pallet of ammo for that protective device.. I keep about 2 week's worth of MREs around for just such an occasion. Glad to hear things
36 Thepilot : I am also lucky and with power. There are still around 100,000 people without power, including some who haven't had any since last Thursday. That woul
37 BAW716 : Hi all, I was very lucky...we were without power for 10.5 hours (went out at 5pm, returned at 7pm, out at 1am at height of storm, got back at 930am on
38 Post contains links OPNLguy : There's nothing about SEA TRACON listed on ATCSCC's OIS page, so I'd take that to mean that they have their commercial power back and/or have their g
39 Post contains images ScarletHarlot : from Maltby! I saw that the police cordoned off the Shell at Canyon Park because they needed the last few tanks of gas there...and that the stations
40 Post contains images Blrsea : I live in Bellevue, and haven't had power back yet!! Power went out around midnight on thursday and I am still waiting to have it restored It has been
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