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Delta Airlines Lockheed L100 Hercules  
User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9639 times:

If just found out that Delta has operated 3 Lockheed L100 Hercules and would like to know more about it since this a rather unusual aircraft for an airline like Delta.
What did Delta use them for and what kind of routes did they operate ?

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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9613 times:

Alaska had them too, as did Wein and Mark Air . . . Lynden Air Freight uses them up here now.

According to Delta.com, they were used for general cargo . . . .

See 1966, this link.

http://www.delta.com/about_delta/cor...ts/delta_through_decades/index.jsp


User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9600 times:

Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Delta has operated 3 Lockheed L100 Hercules

DL ordered indeed three Hercules to replace its fleet of Curtiss C-46 freighter. The three were delivered to DL between August and October 1966, and were sold between October 1973 and March 1974, but their commercial services ended on September 1st, 1973 as the airline was having enough underfloor cargo space in its wide-body fleet.

Five other aircraft were leased on short-term, of which four were used when DL sent back its own aircraft to the manufacturer to get them the fuselage stretched. Among those four leased airframe, two are unidentified.

All the above informations are from the book: Delta - An airline and its aircraft

Cheers.

[Edited 2006-12-17 00:06:14]

User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9542 times:

Thank you very much for your answers. Do you know who operated the Delta aircraft afterwards ?
Civilian or Military ?



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User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9494 times:

N9268R was sold to Saturn Airways.

N9258R was sold to Air Finance, but after checking the photos on A.net, it appears that this aircraft was used by Pacific Western as C-FPWK 11/1973-01/1981, before going to Northwest Territorial Airways 06/1981-04/1982 when it was destroyed by fire following a ground accident on April 11th.

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N9259R was sold to Air Finance, but it went to Alaska International Air where it became N105AK.

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[Edited 2006-12-17 00:36:05]

User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2630 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9260 times:

It took a bit of getting used to after watching the old "D"-46's rumble in and out.

Before too long the sight of a couple L-100's parked over at the old air cargo building on the east side of the airport parking lot became commonplace.

There was pretty good spotting from the east side of Concourse F and once the rotunda's were built it was fun to watch the L-100's taxy past those large windows.



"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough!"
User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9700 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9169 times:

tail#-----type----ship#----frist--/-last flight
N1130E -20-----304-----08/67-----10/67
N7999S -20-----300-----07/68-----09/68
N9258R -20-----302-----09/66-----08/73
N9259R -20-----303-----10/66-----09/73
N9262R -20-----310-----06/70-----06/70
N9268R -20-----301-----08/66-----09/73



yep.
User currently offlineTropicBird From United States of America, joined May 2005, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8966 times:

I remember seeing them operating from LAX in the 1960's.

User currently offlineCubastar From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 410 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8778 times:

The L100 (L-382) was a great plane to fly. It was noisy, not too fast and we were stuck in the mid-altitude range. The three of them were flown mostly out of ATL to the Northeast and to the Southwest. (ATL-NYC and ATL to SFO by way of MSY, DAL (Love Field) and LAX. Also they were used to ferry engines and crews to out stations for maintenance on grounded passenger aircraft. Some of the more junior pilots were dual qualified on both the DC-9 and the Hercules.

They were quite a step-up from the old C-46 freighters. Those were low and slow. No pressurization. No radar. And they leaked. We were stuck usually at 6 to 8 thousand feet enroute trying to dodge the showers and T-storms and when we finally got to our destination we had to dry off. Again, some of the more junior crews had to be dual qualified with the CV-440. All in all, we still had a good time.....lots of fun.


User currently offlineN160LH From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8610 times:

Quoting Cubastar (Reply 8):
Also they were used to ferry engines and crews to out stations for maintenance on grounded passenger aircraft.

This was the main reason DL got the L-100's... To ferry MX crews and spare engines for the CV-880 and the DC-8's... Only after the fact did DL start using them for cargo purposes...


Columba-
I may be wrong... but I am almost positive this topic comes up about once a year... Might want to do a search next time...

-160

[Edited 2006-12-17 22:06:48]


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User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8581 times:

Quoting N160LH (Reply 9):
This was the main reason DL got the L-100's... To ferry MX crews and spare engines for the CV-880 and the DC-8's...

In fact, if you read Bob Garrard photo comment, that's almost what he says.


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8226 times:

Quoting N160LH (Reply 9):
Columba-
I may be wrong... but I am almost positive this topic comes up about once a year... Might want to do a search next time...

Have not found anything. I usually try the search before starting a new thread. I also checked wikipedia before but have not found anything. If it is only about once a year it is okay don´t you think. We have other topics that comes up every few weeks.  Wink
Also don´t you find it refreshing to discuss Lockheed aircraft in CivAv for once except for Airbus and Boeing all the time.



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineRIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 789 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8048 times:

N160LH,

I would appreaciate that return posters exercise some common sense and not attack someone for not researching the files and archives. It seems to me that this has become pretty common lately from some. Columba said he had researched, but couldn't find anything.

If we all found everything that we wanted in the archives, there would be no need for anyone to post anything interesting. Call me stupid, but I didn' know, either, that Delta flew C-130s.


User currently offlineLegacy135 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7944 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 11):
Also don´t you find it refreshing to discuss Lockheed aircraft in CivAv for once except for Airbus and Boeing all the time.

I found this a very interesting topic, as I didn't know at all the DL ever flew the Hercules. Without Columbas topic I wouldn't know yet. Well done Columba!

By the way I am rather tired about those "my Boeing is better than your Airbus, but my 380 is lager than your 747"....stuff as well. I am normally not even starting to read those.

Cheers
Legacy135 Wink


User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7926 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 11):
Also don´t you find it refreshing to discuss Lockheed aircraft in CivAv for once except for Airbus and Boeing all the time.

I agree with you here.

Quoting Legacy135 (Reply 13):
By the way I am rather tired about those "my Boeing is better than your Airbus, but my 380 is lager than your 747"....stuff as well. I am normally not even starting to read those.

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Quoting Columba (Reply 11):
Have not found anything.


Here are two previous discussions on the topic that may be useful.

Cheers.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/1424440
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2726724

[Edited 2006-12-17 23:04:20]

User currently offlineSka From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7526 times:

I have no idea where DL flew the L100's, but knowing what I know about the L100, they can fly almost literally anywhere. It's a very tough little plane--that's probably why First Air is still using the L100 for cargo flights around northern Canada.


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User currently offlineN160LH From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7243 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 11):
Also don´t you find it refreshing to discuss Lockheed aircraft in CivAv for once except for Airbus and Boeing all the time.

Sure I do... all I was trying to say was that this topic has been discussed before, and you could have gotten some of your questions answered by looking up an old thread... Nevertheless, I also understand that sometimes its a lot faster to start a new thread than look up an old one... Wasn't trying to attack your topic... just making a suggestion for next time....

Quoting Columba (Reply 11):
We have other topics that comes up every few weeks.

Sad but very true..!

Quoting RIXrat (Reply 12):
N160LH,

I would appreciate that return posters exercise some common sense and not attack someone for not researching the files and archives. It seems to me that this has become pretty common lately from some. Columba said he had researched, but couldn't find anything.

If we all found everything that we wanted in the archives, there would be no need for anyone to post anything interesting. Call me stupid, but I didn't know, either, that Delta flew C-130s

Are you kidding me..! I was by no means attacking anyone by my post... Nor is it your responsibility or job to police the forums, attacking people that are recommending others to search their topics before starting new ones..!

And the reason the Airliners.net keeps old post in the archives is for people to be able look up interesting things about aviation, it does not take new threads to accomplish or talk about topics that have already have been covered..!

-160



"I do alright up in the air, its down on the ground that I tend to mess up..."
User currently offlineWingnut767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7153 times:

Quoting N160LH (Reply 16):
Are you kidding me..! I was by no means attacking anyone by my post... Nor is it your responsibility or job to police the forums, attacking people that are recommending others to search their topics before starting new ones..!

You seemed to be policing with your first post. By telling him that there may have been a previous thread you were implying that he did not check when he did. Those who live in glass houses!!

And the reason the Airliners.net keeps old post in the archives is for people to be able look up interesting things about aviation, it does not take new threads to accomplish or talk about topics that have already have been covered..!

And if there had been a thread maybe by bringing in a new one might reveal some new info. People are way to uptight about previous threads. It almost seems like a game to see who catch someone first. Who cares??


User currently offlineCubastar From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 410 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6861 times:

Quoting N160LH (Reply 9):
This was the main reason DL got the L-100's... To ferry MX crews and spare engines for the CV-880 and the DC-8's... Only after the fact did DL start using them for cargo purposes...

Actually 160, it wasn't the MAIN reason that Delta bought them. Delta was operating old WWII C-46's for cargo purposes and they needed the Hercs to provide better and more reliable service than the '46s. We actually hauled outsized cargo such as racing horses and automobiles and trucks that could not have been carried on Delta otherwise. The three L100s were not delivered to Delta until the latter part of 1966, well after the introduction of the CV-880's and the DC-8's. If they wanted them just for hauling engines around the system then one would have sufficed. The Pratts on the 8 and the GEs on the 880 were pretty good engines, even in their teething days with the new jets. Both engines were based on seasoned military versions.

Quoting RIXrat (Reply 12):
RIXrat From Latvia,



Quoting Legacy135 (Reply 13):
I found this a very interesting topic, as I didn't know at all the DL ever flew the Hercules. Without Columbas topic I wouldn't know yet. Well done Columba!



Quoting Wingnut767 (Reply 17):
And if there had been a thread maybe by bringing in a new one might reveal some new info. People are way to uptight about previous threads. It almost seems like a game to see who catch someone first. Who cares??

I agree!


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

Thanks Columba, I didn't know that either. Well done. I learn something new on here everyday. Are any of them flying today for carriers?

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1954 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6629 times:

If anyone is interested Gemini Jets and Corgi both make excellent models of a Delta L100 in 1:400 scale and 1:144 scale respectfully....

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