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Concourse A Is Finally Coming Down At SFO  
User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2077 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4490 times:

Domestic pier "A" is finally being demolished at SFO. This will free up two more gates at the International Terminal A.


John@SFO
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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4492 times:

Place was one of the worst terminals I've departed from. Was nothing more than a gift shop and the US and YX gates - was not a great last impression of a great city.

User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4225 times:

Great. Finally.
Tangent:
What's the status of the fmr. Int'l Terminal?


User currently offlineMcMax From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4093 times:

I just looked at the SF Airport website, and it no longer lists Pier A. USAirways and Midwest have been moved to Pier B. When did this happen?

--Max



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User currently offline777FlyGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 2):
Great. Finally.
Tangent:
What's the status of the fmr. Int'l Terminal?

Good question. Any word on which carriers will be using these gates? I haven't seen anything on the airport website.


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5111 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3870 times:

Quoting 777FlyGuy (Reply 4):


Good question. Any word on which carriers will be using these gates? I haven't seen anything on the airport website.

If Virgin America takes off, and if they are successfull, this will probably be the VA concourse in due time.

Some big ifs of course.



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User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 941 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3721 times:

My understanding is that there is room in the new International Terminal for expansion by domestic carriers, especially on the pier A side. A refurbish/remodel of the old int'l terminal will not happen until there is sufficient demand for that many more gates - which could be probably 10 or so narrow-body gates.


Keeping the "civil" in civil aviation...
User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3621 times:

Thanks for the update on Pier A Legacyins. I drove out there this afternoon to check out what is the now gutted former, former international terminal. Another piece of aviation history about to be removed.

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3582 times:

Was/Is airTran still departing from the New International Terminal?
Or was I dreaming that?

Quoting Christao17 (Reply 6):
My understanding is that there is room in the new International Terminal for expansion by domestic carriers

With the old Pier A gone, the east side of the southern concourse of the New International Terminal can finally be used...and since the existing international carriers are doing fine with what they currently have, it makes only perfect sense to open up that space to domestics.

I have seen Air France and KLM over there, with NW at the tip, with the old pier gone, that should open up three (3) VERY LARGE gates.

New San Francisco International Terminal Satellite View

Quoting 28L28L (Reply 7):
Another piece of aviation history about to be removed.

Yeah thats too bad, but SFO has done nothing to maintain the upkeep.

Last time I flew out of there was in '97, and the place had been remodeled and added on to so many times over the years, that there really wasn't anything historically significant left.

I don't think SFO has the money to tear it down and build a new terminal in its place....and if they had that kind of money, they should hire the world's best lawyers to tackle the issue of runways...they need to reclaim some of the Bay, and that is THE ONLY option, but enviromental groups liken the plan to Armageddon....

The most beautiful terminal buildings in the world don't mean squat if the airport is terminally delayed all the time! (Ha, a lame pun!)



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User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 8):
Was/Is AirTran still departing from the New International Terminal?
Or was I dreaming that?

AirTran was using the International Terminal for a while. They have moved over to Terminal 1 with Continental ect....



John@SFO
User currently offlineAeroman62 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3384 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 8):
Yeah thats too bad, but SFO has done nothing to maintain the upkeep.

Last time I flew out of there was in '97, and the place had been remodeled and added on to so many times over the years, that there really wasn't anything historically significant left.

I don't think SFO has the money to tear it down and build a new terminal in its place....and if they had that kind of money, they should hire the world's best lawyers to tackle the issue of runways...they need to reclaim some of the Bay, and that is THE ONLY option, but enviromental groups liken the plan to Armageddon....

The most beautiful terminal buildings in the world don't mean squat if the airport is terminally delayed all the time! (Ha, a lame pun!)

I think what everyone is forgetting is that before the 1980's, the old councourse A was the international councourse, originally six gates, then the routunda was added in the mid 70's - the routunda was meant to be the start of a total airport renovation, that would have included more like terminals, but it never went beyond that. It was always odd to walk to the end of the original A, then turn right and go up into the newer part, had the plan gone through, the original A would have been demolished for a new finger to connect it to the terminal building. I remember Pan Am 707's, 747's, Phillipine DC10's, Qantas 747-200's, and the excitement with BA returned with service to London, and then LH came in, they all parked on A once upon a time. Now it's all gone.

You used to be able to meet international flights at the gate, there was a sterile area enclosed in glass, and you could follow your arriving passenger to the point where they had to walk downstairs to clear customs. After the new (former Central) international terminal opened, PSA took over all of this, and got rid of the sterile area. They were operating out of there when the Borg Cube known as USAir swooped in and bought 'em, and USAir stayed there until they consolidated with HP in the old TWA gates.


User currently offlineIAHFLYER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

Can somebody say getting A380 ready or are they already ready??


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User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

A380: already ready already  Smile


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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3168 times:

Quoting 28L28L (Reply 7):
Another piece of aviation history about to be removed.

Not that it was that old or historic ( as an Intl Terminal). It became the International Terminal in what, 1982 or so? I remember fondly of traversing the Central Terminal in the 70s on UA and such.



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User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2501 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3143 times:

Cool, but what about the ghostly remnants of Terminal 2? It's been collecting dust - I mean "under renovation" - for some time now.


777fan



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 13):
Not that it was that old or historic ( as an Intl Terminal). It became the International Terminal in what, 1982 or so? I remember fondly of traversing the Central Terminal in the 70s on UA and such.

Yep.
The only thing historically redeeming was that it was the original "modern era" terminal, opening in the early 1950s....but it has been remodeled so many times, the cool blue window panels, that made it unique looking, have been gone for about 30 years....I always thought the enormous central hall, if restored to original condition would be something....but totally out of place in today's world.
Too bad this ain't Oslo, where they can just slap the whole thing on a trailer and move it someplace else.



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6140 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

IAHFlyer

SFO is A380 ready. Gates A-11 and G-101 is I'm not mistaken

ASLAX



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21529 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

Quoting AS739X (Reply 16):
SFO is A380 ready. Gates A-11 and G-101 is I'm not mistaken

But two of those 3 new gates would also make great A380 gates. The one closest to the terminal would be more limited assuming they will also add 3 gates to the domestic concourse as on the mirror side of the airport (4 won't fit).

But 2 A380/748 capable gates and 1 777/A340 gate would be a nice conclusion to the International terminal project.



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