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Caribbean Aviation Part 5  
User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2202 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8829 times:

I believe the author of the article is a BW director. He clears up the situation about the LHR slots.


Eagles Soar!
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User currently offlineBeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8728 times:

The count down has begun. I will be at JFK in the morning for BWIA's last flight out. I wish I was on it but will be there to take a lot of pictures.

User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2202 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8705 times:

The end of an era is here.

LI and 8B are going to merge. The start up date for the new carrier is Feb of 07 and the formal merger should be completed within a couple months of the start up date.


Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineJMBWEEBOY From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8669 times:

Schocking Revelations in this morning's Sunday Trini newspapers regarding
BWIA and Caribbean Airlines!

First, BWIA's Jamaican area manager has been granted a court injunction
requiring BWIA to preserve its assets because of a laundry list of unpaid
wages over the past 7 years. This is not the first I have heard of this,
I well know of others in the same position and apparently others will be
given the opportunity to hop on board this "claim."

Second, Trini's Guardian reports may of the new Caribbean Airlines
employees are already disgruntled, apparently wages and working
conditions are actually far worse than they were previously. This
does not bode well for Caribbean, to be starting up with a very unhappy
work force.

Third, apparently Davies is off golfing in Asia! At this time ?!!!! The time
of an incredibly important transition, and he is off golfing in Asia ?
Is he just another greedy corporate CEO or what ?

Fourth, apparently Caribbean's plan to success is reported to be offering
"low airfares." Why ? BWIA/Caribbean does not operate in a LCC environment with airlines like Southwest and Jet Blue on its routes ? It operates in
an environment with the old boys, the old legacy airlines, e.g. American
and Air Canada. Why give away your product when you don't have to ?
Yields will be lower than with BWEE so that surely will neutralize any
cost savings under the new "strucuture".

Am I missing something here, but is Caribbean already going down in
flames before its even started ? On the eve of the new companies'
debut, we wll wanted to wish well but surely things are not looking


User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2202 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8641 times:

Hi guys this is my 1000th post on airliners.net

Here are the links to the stories that JMBWEE boy talked about. Note that the first 2 links are only valid for 24 hours.


Tribute to BW from the trinidad express

Anyway guys happy new year

Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineBeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8639 times:


Firstly Happy New Year to everyone.
I was at JFK this morning for the last flight out.
It was operated by 9Y-GND doing BW427
Off Blocks - 0800/1200Z
Airborne - 0815/1215Z

Here are some pictures:

Waiting to be loaded:

Inside the Cabin:

I am going to miss the Orange and Green seats

Ready and Loaded

Off the Blocks

Number two for takeoff ( look closely )

Here she comes

AIRBORNE ( Please excuse the picture quality )

An end of an era. BWEE You will be sorely missed. Reluctantly I welcome Caribbean Airlines. It will take a little while for me to warm up to them.

ps: Based on JMBWEEBOY's post and the articles there looks like there will be some fall out on this whole mess. BW772 Thanks for the picture of Concorde.

User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8611 times:

LOL I didn't even know this was around since Dec.18th!  wink 

I look forward to seeing Caribbean Airlines in SDQ, HAV or even NAS one day!

Well one of the smaller Bahamian carriers: SkyBahamas will soon anounce a GGT-FLL Saab 340B service.

other news
-SkyBahamas: NAS-CAP 4 weekly Saab 340Bs
-Pineapple Air: NAS-CAP 4 weekly using a mix of Beech 1900s and 99s

Bahamas has an estimated 40-75 thousand Haitians and Haitian-Bahamians in a country of a little over 300 thousand people.

Even thought you probably have to be Bahamian to know these airlines, I thought it was worth mentioning.

Happy New Years!  santahat 

User currently offlineMiafll From Jamaica, joined Jun 2000, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8608 times:

Thanks for the pics Beeweel15. Going to miss BWIA but looking forward to the new Caribbean Airlines.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 30077 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8596 times:

Hi thanks for the pics , very sad indeed!!! BWIA will never be replaced and I for one will never warm to this ''Mess up'' that has been allowed to happen.

The Caricom community has lost a major achievement and icon.

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10792 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8563 times:

I wanted to start a new Caribbean aviation thread tomorrow to start the new year but BWIA 772 couldn't wait  Wink

Nice pictures Beewee15. Truly sad to see BW go but luckily a new airline arises and I wish Caribbean Airlines good luck of course and welcome!

Happy New Year to all!!!!

Roger Big grin

User currently offlineMiafll From Jamaica, joined Jun 2000, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8536 times:

I see the new Caribbean Airlines POS-JFK-POS schedule calls for the POS-JFK flight to arrive at JFK at 4:10 PM. The JFK-POS flight does not depart until 12:15AM. Isn't that a wate of a/c utlilization having the aircraft on the ground at JFK for almost 8 hours?

Plus is there a strong market for a midnight departure?

User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1027 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8521 times:

Nice shots, BeeweeL15!!!

I understand how frustrating it is for you, sir. It's hard on all of us. Kudos to you on capturing 427. I hope 425 left on time.  Smile

It would have been nice if they had a water cannon salute. Then again, after what happened with a United 777, maybe they were reluctant. Who knows.

God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10792 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8481 times:

Out of interest I am wondering, does anyone have statistical information on how all airlines flying to the Caribbean are performing on the routes they fly such as load factors and what is expected in the coming years? I would like to know this information for both foreign airlines flying to the Caribbean such as AA, DL, CO, US, AC etc as well as Caribbean airlines such as JM, BW, 8B/LI etc.

Does anyone have this management information or know where I can obtain this. I visited the IATA website once and they release extensive market analysis each year but this costs about 600 US Dollars to obtain so that is too expensive for me, even though I take it that the analysis they do is very detailed and broad which is interesting.


User currently offlineBeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 4 hours ago) and read 8381 times:

Well guys whats going on. The silence is deadly now. I guess everyone is still in shock that BWEE is gone. WHo knows it could be reserected and this time the folks running it will say I told you so and make a killing. Anyway there is going to be some fall out on this cause share holders were prevented from investing in the carrier for over one year, myself included. And there were folks who wanted to invest to move the company forward.

A388 check this link out for some of the information you are looking for.


It only gives info on flights to and from the US only. I will try and see if I can get other info for you from my boss. And yes it is expensive and I can attest to that.

User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 8375 times:

Hey guys here is my trip report I was telling you about:

Trip To The Bahamas For Christmas (lots Of Pics!) (by MD90fan Jan 2 2007 in Trip Reports)

Enjoy, I put alot of work into it  wink 
Replies appreciated.

User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3565 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 8352 times:

Hey guys have had some family fly out to LHR on Caribbean Airlines and they said that there was not a huge difference- new faces etc. and the flight was somewhat on time to their suprise. They left the gate about 20 minutes late but they boarded right on time. There were no pushback trucks avaiable. anyways- 3 days into operations and so far no real problems. Bookings haven't been too bad, but they are not fantastic either.


“The moment you doubt whether you can fly, you cease for ever to be able to do it.” J.M. Barrie (Peter Pan)
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10792 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8286 times:

Nice trip report MD90fan! I have posted in your trip report thread, excellent report!



User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2202 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8274 times:

No prob l15.

Ok guys here is the video of my last BWIA flight. I had sometime on my hands so there has been some modifications so tell me what you think.

[Edited 2007-01-04 04:41:29]

[Edited 2007-01-04 05:01:04]

Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10792 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8266 times:

Quoting Beeweel15 (Reply 13):
A388 check this link out for some of the information you are looking for.


It only gives info on flights to and from the US only. I will try and see if I can get other info for you from my boss. And yes it is expensive and I can attest to that.

Thanks for the link Beewee15. I will have a look into it later this week or this coming weekend as my week will be bussy this week.

BWIA 772,

Very nice video. I like the music as well, very fitting music for such a video! Did you add the song to the video? I have never heard an airline play music during take-off.....  

Which airline was the A310 on your video? It is the first aircraft you pass after arrival in BGI. At first I thaught it was Air Plus Comet from Spain but I don't think it's that airline as the tail logo had a white circle and Air Plus Comet doesn't have that on their tails as far as I know.....?

EDIT: I now see your photos too, very nice!!! Big grin



[Edited 2007-01-04 04:43:08]

User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2202 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8256 times:

A388 it was some airline from Jordan most likely a charter.That day was the first time that I saw 9Y TAB in person since being repainted. I also realised that it was ironic as with my last L1011 flight on BW in Dec of 2002 on arrival at BGI I saw 9Y TJN for the first time in person.

As for the music that happened by accident. I was playing that in my media player when I went on youtube to look at the video to see that it played ok. I realise that it was quite fitting so I edited the copy on my computer took down the video and replaced it with this one which had in the music. Hence the comment about the time on my hands. I have one other video to put on which is the landing at POS from my BGI POS run but there is some music that I want to add before I put that one.

The new Caribbean Airlines website is nice there is too much white for me but I said the samething about BWIA green. I heard the new call sign is BWA Caribbean Airlines so the only thing left from BW really are the flight numbers' prefix of BW.

I also saw in the newsday that Sunjet House Trinidad has been repainted. I do not know about BGI as I really do not go into town that often unless necessary.

[Edited 2007-01-04 05:02:28]

Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1027 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8236 times:

Well I've been trying to listen to the new airline over the radio, but that's been a chore. I usually miss them by a minute or so. I'd imagine that 9Y-TAB will be doing a tour on all the international stations (JFK/MIA/YYZ). Maybe someone can give us the heads up when it's coming to JFK so BeeweeL15 can take some shots.  Smile

God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8203 times:

Happy New Year all!

So Caribbean Airlines is finally airborne and the old BWIA has been laid to rest. It is sad but a change of the times. Let us all go forth and support Caribbean Airlines as it strives to make its mark on the world of Caribbean and international aviation.


Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10792 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8160 times:

Quoting Trintocan (Reply 21):
Let us all go forth and support Caribbean Airlines as it strives to make its mark on the world of Caribbean and international aviation.

I absolutely agree with you Trintocan. I have always said it --> Good luck to Caribbean Airlines!!!! Big grin

I want them to fly to CUR!!!!!  hissyfit 

A388  bouncy 

User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2202 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8135 times:

Well 2007 seems to be the year of change in Caribbean aviation. I hope that with in the couple of months we will be here talking about the new routes of Caribbean Airlines. In a couple of weeks we should know exactly what is taking place at LI/8B.

Already we have seen that because of the strength of the LI brand that its name will be retained. The guys on calpa seem to like the name of LIAT Star of the Caribbean IMHO I think it is a cheesy name and I told a LI director that which led to a nice debate that still has to be finished.

In 6 days time the new BW will complete its pull out of BGI and JM will launch its daily service to JFK. While I am happy for JM they are a good number of bajans that would be going to AA.

Oh it seems as if 9Y JIL will be going to Air Comet.

Where's Captaink

Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8104 times:

Some route updates

  • JM's new daily JFK-BGI route starts January 10th. It will be operated by its A320s

  • DL's new ATL-TAB route starts February 17th. It will be operated once weekly 737-800

Also I didn't know BWee had 737-700s!!

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If you ask me they looked awesome!  cool 

25 Caribbean484 : Hi guys. This is my first post on this forum. Well its good that there are changes in the Caribbean in terms of regional transportation. I hope Caribb
26 AA1818 : Welcome to A.Net Caribbean484!! I'm still shocked at this route- I hope it's a huge success though...I wish DL all the best and a prosperous, looong r
27 BWIA 772 : Caribbean 484 welcome. AA BW is going to operate MIA through BGI??? BW BGI ANU KIN BW BGI SMX KIN both 737 800s but I cannot remember the dates DL is
28 Jm017 : Are they pulling out entirely?
29 Caribbean484 : BWIA 772 BWIA from Jan 8 Caribbean Airlines will stop all US flights out of BGI. LHR will continue untill 28th march but the airline will keep its pro
30 BWIA 772 : Sorry I was not clear in my post. When I said pull out i meant the end of all services save the BGI ANU SMX KIN service and the BGI LHR route. 484 Is
31 Post contains images AA1818 : I do not think any flights out of BGi will be kept except for the two u mentioned there BWIA772! also 484 is correct in that, it is BW's intention to
33 BWIA 772 : So what is the deal about their regional ops. I heard that they are looking at launching a regional arm that would compete with LI/8B
34 Caribbean484 : BWIA772 I got this from the airline's CEO in a statement he made during an interview some time ago, that its the airline's intention to add more regio
35 Captaink : Very nice video BWIA772, I particularly loved the flight attendant speaking in the end. It have been eyars since I have flown any caribbean airline, s
36 AA1818 : Thanks Caribbean484! Any info on some of the less regular and less premier carriers like Surinam Airways, Aeropostal, Avior, Rutaca, Aviasca, North Am
37 Post contains images BWIA 772 : Thanks captaink. AA what you are trying to do use to be done on this site . The rate at which is is updated has fallen dramatically. Anyways I can tal
38 Captaink : Ay AY no trini segregation please.. Grenada is an extension of Trinidad anyhow. LOL just kidding. But I agree with you, we need to do this caribbean
39 Post contains images BWIA 772 : Agreed and this is the bajan blood in me speaking. I think AA forgot the economic and social invasion that Trinidad has launched on Barbados lol Cool
40 Post contains images A388 : That's not a video, that's just a form of a powerpoint presentation I was already expecting a cockpit video approach while landing or taking off. Lik
41 Captaink : It is video, but only a video of slides... But hey A388 be nice, it is a nice tribute no? :P
42 Post contains images A388 : Hey my friend, I'm always a nice person I was just kidding. Now tell me that Caribbean Airlines will start flying to CUR and I'm an even nicer person
43 Post contains links BWIA 772 : http://www.flightglobal.com/staticpages/schedules.html Useful in getting flight schedules Suriname Airways schedule http://www.slm.firm.sr/en/default.
44 Caribbean484 : Not sure of the lesser airlines nor the chatered airlines. Since i'm no longer in training at POS its kind of difficult to get the flight schedual of
45 Caribbean484 : Kind of moving away from the BWIA/Caribbean Airlines situation, Air Jamaica is now trying to restructure by brining in 737s and 757s. My take with JM
46 Beeweel15 : Travelspan uses Xtra Airlines to fly to POS , GEO , and FLL. North American does not fly to POS on a regular basis anymore. As a matter of fact they
47 Post contains images WestIndian425 : Man I looked at that little "rendition" and just balled out "Whyyyyyy!!!!???" I believe the industry will turn around in the islands. But all these a
48 Beeweel15 : You not the only one
49 Post contains links BWIA 772 : http://www.yyznews.com/airportlog.html Check the entry for the 5th of JAN JIL apparently is being repainted in Caribbean Airline colours. Does this me
50 A388 : That is strange, why paint these A343s in the Caribbean Airlines colors when they will be leaving the fleet soon (in March)....? A388
51 BWIA 772 : Info is wrong on YYZ news she is really going with air comet. Apparently BWIA West Indies have been taken off of TJN and replaced with Caribbean Airli
52 Caribbean484 : I do know that JIL left the fleet last week to be repainted to Air Plus Comet so the news report is indeed faulse. Maybe they say the white colour sch
53 Beeweel15 : Most likely a World Airways MD11. But why lease that aircraft when they should get BA to pick up that slack possibly upgrading to a 744. Man what a m
54 Caribbean484 : Well Bweeweel15 airlines don't work that way. BA starts flights in the second quater of the year to POS twice a week. There needs to be a lot of finan
55 Post contains links and images MD90fan : Air Caraibes has acquired the Embraer ERJ-175 demonstrator. It is being used on flights from FDF to PDP. Source
56 AA1818 : Apologies, but I assumed that by saying Trinidad, you would read it as Caribbean!! hehehehe just kidding. We should start planning for July perhaps.
57 Post contains images A388 : I think the aircraft will only have small Caribbean Airlines titles on the fuselage, no full Caribbean Airlines livery unfortunately, it would look v
58 AA1818 : What is the scheduled timing of the flights?? I have no heard any news on this flight. Also A388 perhaps u can help on this. A friend and I are consi
59 A388 : Caribbean Star has been operating the POS-CUR route since the beginning of December. I have posted this in our earlier Caribbean aviation threads but
60 Post contains images BWIA 772 : 484 you have been most eloquent in your reply. Beweel15 I doubt you will see a 747 on the BA POS route save for Carnival and Christmas. I think in Ma
61 Post contains images A388 : Unfortunately I can't be part of this Caribbean meeting as I need to go to AMS first for my diploma and I'm working on buying a new car so a lot of ex
62 Post contains images Captaink : I like the sound of that very much.. But we have to plan, because it is hard to get from Mexico to Trinidad even though it isn't very far.. I think t
63 Post contains links and images A388 : I can imagine your point of view, my post was actually directed to the French speaking Caribbean members here or French members here who are familiar
64 Beeweel15 : You best bet is via CCS you will have more connections to South and Central America. As for the meeting as long as it is after June cause I will be g
65 Trintocan : That Air Caraibes Embraer Jet looks fabulous! It is good to hear about airlines from the other Caribbean islands - when one is from Trinidad or the Co
66 Post contains links and images BWIA 772 : Its only Trinidad that is kicking up fuss about the BA service here in BGI we are just delighted for another BA service year round . Hopefully next wi
67 Beeweel15 : Just to remind you BA left the Trinidad market many years before that. Now BA cited that they lost money flying the segments between BGI and ANU to P
68 BWIA 772 : About the Paris I meant the 787 and not the 777. This was in reply to Trintocan post about the fuss that has developed around BA operating the POS rou
69 Caribbean484 : Ok may be I have to explain to logic of cutting LHR and closing BWIA because some people just don't understand. LHR: 1) Rotating 2 A343's yearly is a
70 Beeweel15 : Well I am glad you said that cause I have mentioned the same as above many times although I do not support the entire shut down of the airline and re
71 Post contains links BWIA 772 : http://www.caricom.org/jsp/single_ma...arib_air_transportation_holder.ppt The above link is to a presentation made by the Chairman of LI Dr. Jean Hol
72 Caribbean484 : Thanks BWIA772. I'm new to this forum so if its was mentioned before them my apologies but it seem to me that some people think that BWIA made so much
73 Post contains links BWIA 772 : 484 no problem. You would soon realise that beeweel15 has been and will continue to be bitterly opposed to the action that the government of Trinidad
74 Speedbird2155 : Unlike other islands that BA (and VS/BMI) serves, POS is largely a VFR market from the UK. BA previously withdrew simply because the market condition
75 Beeweel15 : Yes you are right but 484 has mentioned several things that I have mentioned and that is along the lines of the Management and staff of the airline a
76 Post contains links Caribbean484 : Well bweeweel15 BWIA could have been saved, Davies said so himself, but there was simply no cooperation within the airline so that changes can be made
77 Post contains links and images MD90fan : We have members on the site from Cayman Islands, Antigua, Jamaica and The Bahamas who never post in here   Pretty good from what it seems. They curr
78 Post contains links BWIA 772 : MD90 http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070109/20070109005845.html?.v=1 Caribbean 484 nice points The problem with alot of people who want to slam the GOTT for p
79 Yellowtail : Islands??????...everyone in the Caribbean doesn't live on an Island....you have us mainland folk in Belize...but then again....we are speaking less a
80 Trintocan : I remember clearly when BA dropped POS back in 1994. As late as 1993 there were 3 competitors on the POS - London market, namely BW to LHR, BA to LGW
81 Beeweel15 : I am glad you saying this cause when I said this before citing that the airline could have been saved I was the black sheep on this forum. Remember t
82 Post contains images Captaink : Yeah i forgot to mention Beliza, Guyana, Suriname and all else who are considered Caribbean. In fact maybe we should just say Caribbean and Latin Ame
83 Post contains images WestIndian425 : Here's a side thought. It would be nice if someone could find out the planned route of 9Y-TAB, just as the highly-publicized Peter Max, so folk could
84 Beeweel15 : CaptainK When next you passing through JFK. I got permission to let you loose on the ramp for a few minutes but you never made contact. Let me know wh
85 Caribbean484 : Yes but you see as the late Eric Williams once said, " One from ten leave zero." If all are not in then it does not make sense going forward. And no
86 Captaink : I didn't get the chance to pass by. And i doubt I would, cause I am heading to Georgia day after tomorrow, and when i return I leave at 6am Tuesday m
87 BWIA 772 : What does that have to go with what I wrote? Unless I wrote in french or some other language post 78 deals with the fact that government was forced t
88 Beeweel15 : I could not get some pics tonight but 9Y-TAB was at Gate 25 Terminal IAT tonight operationg BW425. Aircraft should be enroute as we speak.
89 Beeweel15 : Well whats happening folks. You all are so quiet. Anyway as I mentioned about BW/Caribbean and its advertising. Tonight at around 1945LT here in NYC w
90 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Guys LIAT Star of the Caribbean will be taking off on Feb 1 of this year. Star will cease to sell tickets at that date and all flights will be LI flig
91 Post contains images Captaink : I imagine all the handling companies that had Star contracts would loose them, and LI staff will handle all the flights? And just so Caribbean Star,
92 A388 : I thaught Caribbean Star was to buy LIAT hence that LIAT would be swallowed up in Caribbean Star. So does LIAT take over Caribbean Star now as a majo
93 Post contains links BWIA 772 : That was never the case. It was always a merger. The reason why the LI name is being kept is due to strength of the LI brand. LI held in excess of 50
94 Post contains links Caribbean484 : BWIA772 I have to correct you. Stanford is not going to have shares in the new airline rather, he is loaning the airline some US$35m. Yep. True. Star
95 Beeweel15 : Well Well look at this BW had a very strong name and identity but you was all out for BW to drop its name and identity. Remember LIAT was not all tha
96 A388 : Hey BWIA 772, As usual, thank you for your explanation. I guess my memory hasn't served me so well in this case because now I do remember what you say
97 AA1818 : We are in part 5 and you just keep spewing this stuff!!! 1) BWIA is gone, say bye bye, grieve and now get over it! 2) LIAT salvaged it's reputations
98 PanAmOldDC8 : Just hope that the Governments keep their noses out and let the people who know how to run airlines do it, especially "Uncle Owen"
99 Post contains images A388 : Absolutely true. Let's hope for the best of the new merged airline A388
100 BWIA 772 : Beweel15 BW brand strength especially interms of loyalty was not remotely close to that of LI. BW market share was in single digits at the time of its
101 PanAmOldDC8 : I just hope the politicians keep their noses out of the new airline and let the people who know how to run it do so. Especially "Uncle Owen"
102 BWIA 772 : As Star is being folded into LI it is most likely management will remain LI. As for right now the current planning horizon is to complete this merger
103 Post contains images A388 : Cool!!! I'm looking forward to more threads and posts about Caribbean aviation!!! Keep them coming A388
104 Beeweel15 : I know we are in Part 5. I have already gotten over it but if a comment is made on something that was negative on one thing but positive for somethin
105 Post contains images BWIA 772 : and I thought i hear it all .... All jokses aside now Beeweel15 we have argued a lot about this closure of BW over the last couple months, while in t
106 BWIA 772 : 484 you are basing your information on media reports which do not contain everything. Stanford will have a share in the airline. Regards
107 Captaink : From the articles I have read, I came to the same conclusion as caribbean484 did. But it doesn't make any sense to me. Is Stanford just giving up on
108 Post contains images WestIndian425 : It's alright. I forgive you. LOL!! Sorry I've been M.I.A. guys. On a light note, I did hear the Caribbean Airlines callsign over JFK tower frequency.
109 Beeweel15 : Most of those pax on Caribbean were going to Georgetown Guyana while the others, Travelspan and Constelation, were doing their thing to POS.
110 Beeweel15 : From the several articles on this matter it seems that he wants out but loaning $35 million I am certain he will have shares in the company I believe
111 Caribbean484 : BWIA772, respectfully, so are you. We just have to wait and see as to what is really going down. Because Stanford should really get out of aviation h
112 Captaink : Just here idle and bored, but thinking. With one airline, in region, which seems to be the goal, what is going to happen to customer service this time
113 Beeweel15 : If you was in NYC I could have taken you out on the ramp for a tour and you would not be as board as you are. I hope there will be at least two that
114 BWIA 772 : As it relates to LI that has not been the case since the last set of merger talks between BW and LI. If you wanted a detail history of how those talk
115 A388 : Well, we now have two airlines of Curacao, Insel Air and Dutch Antilles Express. Insel Air started operating one EMB110 and has recently taken delive
116 AA1818 : Well, unfortunately when you're a minority shareholder your voice just doesn't get heard. Honestly though, apart from sheer blind love of BWIA, who i
117 Post contains images A388 : Hi AA1818, 8B flies pos-cur daily. I have a photo of them at planepictures.net. I also have a picture of the first MD83 of Insel Air on planepictures
118 Beeweel15 : Well while a lot of what you say is true many folks bought shares in BW becuase at the time BW was doing fairly well plus there was plans expanding t
119 Caribbean484 : Trust me I know the history, but I was referring to Stanford having shares in the new airline. However, I have to do some research on this, the GROTT
120 BWIA 772 : GORTT shares in LI has not been at 23% for a little while now. Capital injections by the main shareholders BGI ANU and St Vincent have changed up the
121 Caribbean484 : Thanks for the info BWIA772. Being here in the US for some time, I've not been able to keep up with things out of Trinidad. But I try.
122 OA260 : Are BW axing all the EU routes??? They still havnt taken the London flight out of the Galileo computer system yet!!!
123 Caribbean484 : They are. After March 28th 2007, all UK routes will be axed and code shared by BA.
124 OA260 : Very very sad indeed. Sounds stupid but my Dads family are from Guyana and I feel that ive been cutt off!!!! BWIA was always a link. I wonder if they
125 A388 : Caribbean Airlines is the first airline to have the CARICOM flag on their aircraft so this might be a start. A388
126 AA1818 : Well you can't sell if no one's buying!! For some time BWIA's shares were 24c then all of a sudden they went to 60c then they fell back to below 20c.
127 Post contains images BWIA 772 : Hey hey hey it is not Mr. Bajan it isMr. Trinibaje.
128 Post contains images MD90fan : I think we need to give this Caribben Airlines sh1t a break. There are other airlines we can speculate about too
129 AA1818 : Any news from the Bahamas? I always wondered how come there is no service between some of Caribbean islands and the Bahamas. Especially some sort of
130 2travel2know : Do any Trini A-neter have news about why CM POS flight hasn't started? It seems that overhere in PTY, CM is saying it's something in POS delaying the
131 BWIA 772 : How about Cayman is anything happening to them? Regards
132 AA1818 : I can't think of anything that would necessarily delay the start of ops except for the timing of flights. If CM wants to leave POS in the morning it
133 2travel2know : BA back to POS - that's a possibility, specially if from LGW. DL to TAB, POS? - Weekend from ATL to TAB with a good Touroperator contract and 4pw/dai
134 Caribbean484 : Well Its going to happen on March 29th. I too want to know what is going on with JM and its plans. From what I've heard from a friend the airline is
135 Beeweel15 : I also have heard Several things are in the works details of which cant be revealed right now but once I hear anything from my end I will let you fol
136 BWIA 772 : What is the old terminal at POS used for now?
137 Post contains links and images A388 : Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears JM is introducing a "new" livery with their A320 registered 6Y-JMF. This aircraft I think has just returnt fr
138 BWIA 772 : 6Y JMF was sub leased to eri jet after that airline failed the aircraft went back to JM. The livery is a highbrid like 9Y JIL the white A340 BW has be
139 A388 : Hey BWIA 772, how are you doing? I am aware the livery might be temporary. I was just wondering if JM will repaint their entire fleet like this becau
140 Post contains images BWIA 772 : I'm good I dont think so, they will keep their current livery. Congrats guys we have reached the 140 mark for the 5 caribbean aviation . In part 6 let
141 Post contains images A388 : Hey BWIA 772. I hope JM will keep their current livery but I think they will as well. The all-white fuselage just scared me somewhat but come to thin
142 AA1818 : honoured to be likened to the great Jim Carey!! lol- Liar Liar is one of my all time fav. movies! cargo mainly. But when BW has chartered planes some
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