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Status Of AA's 763 Cabin Upgrades?  
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

I'm planning to fly AA DFW-LGW in February, and want to take the 777 flights but the scheduling of the 763 flights fits in better with my itinerary.

I know AA has been upgrading the 763 cabin, but I'm not sure of the details. Are they just upgrading the business class cabin, or are they upgrading economy as well? What new amenities can we expect? And, most importantly, when are these upgrades expected to be in place on US-Europe routings on the 763?

Any insight is much appreciated.


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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4619 times:

Diddnt the upgrades just get announced like a week ago? Give it some time mate... Its the F and J cabins gettin the update...


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 1):
Diddnt the upgrades just get announced like a week ago? Give it some time mate... Its the F and J cabins gettin the update...

I think the announcement was made longer ago than that ... but maybe I'm wrong. I thought it was announced this past summer or something along those lines.



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 1):
Diddnt the upgrades just get announced like a week ago? Give it some time mate... Its the F and J cabins gettin the update...

Maybe you're confusing it with UA's recent announcement of a new F seat? AA's new C seat on the B767s has been indeed announced a long time ago and several planes (maybe 7? that's what I remember from a recent post) already have the upgraded C seat. But, I don't think there are any guarantees on whether you'll get the seat or not if you book on a B767.

Here's AA's page on the new C seat:

http://www.howwillyourtimefly.com/

I don't think there have been any announcements on when/if the new C seat will make it to the B777s...

Tony



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31062 posts, RR: 87
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4582 times:
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Quoting Ssides (Thread starter):
I know AA has been upgrading the 763 cabin, but I'm not sure of the details. Are they just upgrading the business class cabin, or are they upgrading economy as well?

The upgrades are only for Business Class.

Quoting Ssides (Thread starter):
What new amenities can we expect?

New Business Class seat with portable video, larger overhead bins, and improved catering.

Quoting Ssides (Thread starter):
And, most importantly, when are these upgrades expected to be in place on US-Europe routings on the 763?

Fleet reconfiguration is underway and will be completed by the end of 2007. I would imagine DFW-LGW will be one of the first upgraded.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 1):
Didn't the upgrades just get announced like a week ago? Give it some time mate... Its the F and J cabins getting the update...

AA's 767-300's do not have a First Class cabin. You may be thinking of their domestic 767-200 fleet, which will be receiving new First Class and Business Class seating to compete with UA's p.s. service.

Quoting Ssides (Reply 2):
I think the announcement was made longer ago than that ... but maybe I'm wrong. I thought it was announced this past summer or something along those lines.

July 17, 2006.

http://www.aa.com/content/amrcorp/pr...Releases/2006_07/17_bizclass.jhtml


User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4579 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 1):
Diddnt the upgrades just get announced like a week ago?

The Business Class upgrade announcement was 17 July.

http://www.aa.com/content/amrcorp/pr...Releases/2006_07/17_bizclass.jhtml



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User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2283 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4562 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 1):
Diddnt the upgrades just get announced like a week ago?

You're thinking of the 762... Ssides is talking about the 763. A new business class on the two-class 763s was announced earlier this year. The first 763 with the new cabin was introduced this past summer on one aircraft for test purposes. The upgrade is now complete on at least two aircraft and others are being upgraded as we speak. I believe the 763 upgrade should be complete sometime in late 2007.

The 762 upgrade is a different initiative that was announced last week. The 762 is a three-class aircraft. In last week's announcement, the 762 will be fitted with new first class seats, and an additional seat bringing capacity in first from nine to 10, new covers on business class seats, new sidewalls, new portable VOD IFE for first and business and new LCD monitors throughout the aircraft.

Ssides, I am trying to find out how many 763s have under gone the change, if I'm successful I'll pass the info along. I've been curious myself.



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User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4550 times:

Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 6):
The 762 upgrade is a different initiative that was announced last week

 checkmark  http://www.aa.com/content/amrcorp/pr...Releases/2006_12/13_transcon.jhtml



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 6):
The 762 upgrade is a different initiative that was announced last week. The 762 is a three-class aircraft. In last week's announcement, the 762 will be fitted with new first class seats, and an additional seat bringing capacity in first from nine to 10, new covers on business class seats, new sidewalls, new portable VOD IFE for first and business and new LCD monitors throughout the aircraft.

Thats what im thinking of... Ok... Sorry Ssides



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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4534 times:

Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 6):
Ssides, I am trying to find out how many 763s have under gone the change, if I'm successful I'll pass the info along. I've been curious myself.

Thanks - but am I correct in believing that the only 763 upgrades will be in business class; nothing is being done to economy?



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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2283 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4493 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 9):
nothing is being done to economy?

Correct. However, there is a slight exception. Business class is getting the new 767 interior, ala 777 style, and that will be carried through the twilight zone (the small economy cabin between business and the window exits.) There is a natural break in the cabin there due to the galley/lavs/crew rest seats so the new interior will end there.

One other slight exception is a new, digital video system. However, the current set-up will remain. AA is replacing the old S-VHS or 8mm system with an all digital, automated system by Panasonic. The video will still be delivered via the large screen in the front of the cabin and smaller CRT monitors throughout. Still no PTVs in Y.



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User currently offlineWillyj From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 9):
Thanks - but am I correct in believing that the only 763 upgrades will be in business class; nothing is being done to economy?

I think the only change in economy will be in the small cabin right behind business class, as that will have the new-look walls and overhead bins. Nothing physically different as far as the seating goes... The rear economy section will not change.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4416 times:

I must admit that I find it so strange that AA will be upgrading the sidewalls and bins only in the J class cabin (plus mini-cabin for Y)....has anyone seen a finished AA 763, does it look as akward as it sounds? I always considered doing sidewalls and bins an ""all or nothing"" project......and doing only the front half on the airplane not an option. Seats are one thing, cabin decor is another...wont Y class pax have a strange feeling walking through the airplane (AA probably doesnt care that much, but still its kind of tacky)? The 763ER is not such a big airplane, after all.

Are there any plans to update the back of the airplane in the future?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31062 posts, RR: 87
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4351 times:
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Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 12):
I must admit that I find it so strange that AA will be upgrading the sidewalls and bins only in the J class cabin (plus mini-cabin for Y)....has anyone seen a finished AA 763, does it look as awkward as it sounds? I always considered doing sidewalls and bins an ""all or nothing"" project......and doing only the front half on the airplane not an option. Seats are one thing, cabin decor is another...wont Y class pax have a strange feeling walking through the airplane (AA probably doesn't care that much, but still its kind of tacky)? The 763ER is not such a big airplane, after all.

I imagine it is a cost-saving measure.

To redo the bins and sides of the entire Economy cabin would require at least the outer seats to be removed and quite probably the center seats, as well. In addition to the extra cost of replacing the walls and bins, you have the labor cost and time of removing all the seats, installing the new fittings, and then re-installing the seats.

I imagine if AA was scheduling these updates during a bird's heavy maintenance / "D check" (when they have to strip the interior, anyway), they would change-out the whole cabin, but it appears AA is doing this work in-between the "D checks" so...


User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2283 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4251 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 12):
Are there any plans to update the back of the airplane in the future?

None have been announced. And it is a cost saving measure. As I mentioned in one of the above posts, there is a natural break in the cabin there with a galley, lavs, restrooms and crew rest areas breaking up the cabin. I would bet most people wouldn't even notice. I agree, however, it does sound strange. I have yet to fly on one of these aircraft, but I am very curious to see how that works as well. It would be nice from a baggage standpoint if all the bins were being upgraded because the 767 does have small bins, especially for it's size. And aesthetically, the new ones are much nicer. But again, I doubt most will notice.

Ssides, I am still working on getting the info about how many planes are done. I sent a couple of emails today and hope to hear more by tomorrow. I'm flying most of the day, but will update as soon as I know more.



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User currently offlineGOTbound From Sweden, joined Oct 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

How many AA B767-300 aircraft have been updated with the new C class yet?

EK


User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2283 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

Quoting GOTbound (Reply 15):
How many AA B767-300 aircraft have been updated with the new C class

Ok, finally got an answer. There are four aircraft in the system with the new C class and two more in the hangar getting the upgrade. I am still under the belief the program will take most of 2007 to complete, at which time they'll begin the upgrade on the 777s.

As a side note, the upgrade to the 762s will begin Summer '07 and is expected to take 12 to 18 months to complete.



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User currently offlineAacun From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3990 times:
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Actually, I beleive its like 7 a/c that have the new B/C seats, and Ill be working one for the first time tonight, so Ill be more suited to answer any questions that may come later, after this trip..... I know that ship 397 has a glitch on the video system thats being worked on right now, but I beleive its like 7 or 8 a/c so far that have been redone.... Ill have the exact number once I get home.....

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