Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
BA History @ SFO (question)  
User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3144 times:

Does anyone know the date in the late '70s or early '80s when BA returned to SFO? I believe that BOAC had flown to SFO since the late '50s for a few years as well? Thanks.

11 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3130 times:

They operated round-the-world service in 50s and 60s. SFO - HNL - HND was the Pacific segment.



[Edited 2006-12-19 18:13:44]

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3095 times:

They started in 1957 or 1958 with DC-7Cs, then Britannias, then 707s. I didn't know they ever dropped SFO-- I'll see what I can find.

User currently offlineRongotai From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 477 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

They flew SYD-NAN-HNL-SFO-JFK-LHR in the late 60s. I flew this service several times between 1968 and 1970. The flight took a 6 hour break at SFO for crew rest reasons. In those more relaxed times transit passengers were taken to a motel without ever going through security or immigration (stayed in the transit lounge at HNL or JFK so the US was never officially entered by these passengers).

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2909 times:

BA did fly SFO-HNL-NAN-SYD for a time, but mostly they left that route to Qantas. During most of the 60s they flew SFO to Tokyo and Hong Kong, LAX to Australia.

It seems BA resumed LHR-SFO in May 1978-- or maybe they never flew it nonstop before? They had ended flights to SFO sometime 1971-74.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25999 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

Quoting Timz (Reply 4):
BA did fly SFO-HNL-NAN-SYD for a time, but mostly they left that route to Qantas. During most of the 60s they flew SFO to Tokyo and Hong Kong, LAX to Australia.

I can't recall BA (then BOAC) ever operating the South Pacific route from LAX. If memory correct until about the mid-70s when they dropped both routes, they operated the SFO-HNL-NAN-SYD route you mention and SFO-HNL-HND (Tokyo Haneda). I think they were using the Super VC-10 on the SYD route and the 707-320B/C on the Tokyo route when they suspended service.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

Quoting Timz (Reply 4):
It seems BA resumed LHR-SFO in May 1978-- or maybe they never flew it nonstop before? They had ended flights to SFO sometime 1971-74.

Just as a fun point in history, Bermuda I, signed in 1946, allowed the following regarding SFO/LAX:

For UK carriers:

Route 1) London to San Francisco via New York, continuing to either or both Hong Kong and Singapore via any one or more of Honolulu, Midway, Wake, Guam or Manila, if desired.

For US carriers:

Route 6) San Francisco or Los Angeles to Hong Kong via Honolulu, Midway, Wake, Guam, or Manila (as desired), continuing onto Macao; A point or points in China; A point or points in Indo-China; A point or points in Siam; A point or points in Burma; Calcutta, if desired.

Route 7) San Francisco or Los Angeles to Singapore via Honolulu, Midway, Wake, Guam, or Manila (as desired); A point or points in Indo-China; Batavia, if desired.


Obviously things changed over the years before Bermuda II came into existence.

I would have to look back in my old, old records, but I recall a friend from high school taking a British Airtours 747 charter from SFO to London in the late 70s, and my dad flying nonstop around 1980 SFO-LHR when the 747s were painted in the "British" livery.



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

I wasn't aware SFO was ever dropped. The SYD-NAN-HNL-SFO-JFK-LHR leg required a SFO transit for about 6 hours at the SFO Airport Hilton due to JFK curfew restrictions. The trans-Pacific service was terminated around 1973 (QF operated the same route and withdrew from SFO-JFK-LHR)- both BA/QF operated the flights with 707's the last few years.

User currently offlineRongotai From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 477 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2764 times:

On one of my SFO 6 hour transits the 707 was full and there were insufficient rooms at the Airport Hilton. So en route HNL-SFO the flight attendants looked at our passports. Those with UK/Aus/NZ passports were bussed to a hotel off the airport and told to 'stay in the hotel grounds'. All others were sent to the Hilton.

For the record this was 23 July 1969


User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 days ago) and read 2690 times:

Thank you for the input. I appreciate your research!

User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5815 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
I can't recall BA (then BOAC) ever operating the South Pacific route from LAX. If memory correct until about the mid-70s when they dropped both routes, they operated the SFO-HNL-NAN-SYD route you mention and SFO-HNL-HND (Tokyo Haneda). I think they were using the Super VC-10 on the SYD route and the 707-320B/C on the Tokyo route when they suspended service

From NO LATER than late 1968 the BA South Pacific route was SYD-NAN-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR, operated by SVC10 aircraft. They may have also operated SYD-NAN-HNL-SFO, at this time. The LAX route was the last to operate from SYD.

The SFO-HNL-HND route operated thru to HKG. BA also operated LHR-ANC-HND-HKG. The exact route and end point changed fairly frequently and also changed according to the day of the week.

Gemuser



DC23468910;B72172273373G73873H74374475275376377L77W;A319 320321332333343;BAe146;C402;DHC6;F27;L188;MD80MD85
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Quoting Timz (Reply 4):
During most of the 60s they flew SFO to Tokyo and Hong Kong, LAX to Australia.

I was wrong there-- it seems they didn't start flights west from LAX until 1969 or 1970. Gemuser says 1968, but as I recall it wasn't in the 6/69 OAG.


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
SFO Question posted Sat Dec 2 2006 18:44:39 by Boston92
BA Check In Question posted Sun Oct 15 2006 19:02:20 by Emirates773er
BA Exec Club Question posted Sun May 7 2006 23:12:25 by AirxLiban
Pro Air History/Trivia Question posted Sun Jan 29 2006 11:44:33 by Searpqx
Korean Air At SFO (Question) posted Fri Jan 13 2006 19:14:14 by 28L28L
BA Executive Club Question posted Mon Dec 19 2005 14:41:18 by Brokenrecord
BA To YVR Question posted Mon Nov 28 2005 13:58:36 by TheBigOne
A BA In 1999 Question posted Fri Mar 11 2005 18:56:21 by SQNo1
BA Pilot Recruiting Question posted Wed Mar 9 2005 06:55:07 by B741
BA 284 SFO-LHR Diverted To KEF! posted Fri Oct 22 2004 12:07:16 by SQNo1