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SAA To Place Wide-body Order?  
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

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Day flights will help SAA grow its network and add frequencies without having to add aircraft. But Ngqula says it also needs more widebodies to fully meet its growth ambitions. In a few months it will take back the three A340s subleased to Jet Airways and plans to add nine widebodies by 2008.

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...qula%2c+South+African+Airways.html

I´m not fully current on SAA´s backlog, but I understand that they don´t have any current orders placed. That would mean that we are looking at a minimum of 6 additional widebodies for 2008 (nine minus 3 A340-300s coming from 9W), possibly 9. Anyone willing to place bets? I go for A330-200s and additional A340-600s.


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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3895 times:

They tried to secure more new A340 series aircraft from Airbus earlier this year, but the production schedules dont allow it in the timeframe SAA want. Expect secondhand A340s to be sourced and added instead.

User currently offlineExpress1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3895 times:

Im Wondering when SAA will replace their B744s on the LHR route,surly thay are getting near their frame time?


dave


User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

SAA needs to worry about reducing it's red line before splurging on more aircraft...

But then again, money grows on trees for South African parastatals... For the moment they are now subsidising Mango... never ends with them...



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3778 times:
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In IT, SAA is behind other Star carriers. While SAA has completed a painful transition to the Apollo reservations system, it still takes SAA staff several minutes longer than most of their Star counterparts to check in the average passenger..

Maybe SAA staff should try using the Amadeus system, It's actually the reservations-and inventory system they migrated to...  Wink

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One option under study is day flights to Europe.

IMHO this will not work - customer demand will show the way.

Quoting Express1 (Reply 2):
Im Wondering when SAA will replace their B744s on the LHR route,surly thay are getting near their frame time?

4x of the planes are about 8 years old, while the remaining 2 are respectively 13 and 14 years old. IMMHO they still have quite a few years of active service in them.


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SA7700



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8494 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3767 times:
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SAA should think beyond the A340-600, a fine plane in 2000. 787 & 777 would do wonders for SAA fleet for the next 20 years.

User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 5):
SAA should think beyond the A340-600, a fine plane in 2000. 787 & 777 would do wonders for SAA fleet for the next 20 years.

The A340-600s have barely been delivered... They have another 15 years of life ahead with SAA at minimum. Besides - a combined A330/340/350 fleet could do wonders for SAA for the next 20 years.



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3732 times:
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Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 5):
787 & 777 would do wonders for SAA fleet for the next 20 years.

According to some articles in Afrikaans daily newspapers, apparently SAA is talking to Boeing and Airbus about possible 787's and 350's.


Rgds

SA7700

[Edited 2006-12-20 14:32:51]


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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8463 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3720 times:
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Quoting Express1 (Reply 2):
Im Wondering when SAA will replace their B744s on the LHR route,surly thay are getting near their frame time?

SAA's first 744 was delivered in January 1991.

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 4):
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One option under study is day flights to Europe.

I agree with SA7700, no matter what the economics for the airlines, daylight flights between SA and Europe are just not popular. I did it once and never again.

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 5):
787 & 777 would do wonders for SAA fleet for the next 20 years.

Well they looked at 777s many years ago, why not now? My wife's boss has a 787 model in SAA colours on his desk  Smile



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