Teahan From Virgin Islands (British), joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 5199 posts, RR: 72 Posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3142 times:
Here is the picture of the first A340 600. Ok the engines are not on yet and its not painted but it looks great! I cant wait to fly on it!
B767-400er From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2242 times:
It looks like a 777-300 with 4 engine mounts!! Hehe, just joking, I must admit that it looks better than the 340-2/300. Hey Airbus, I'm waiting to fly on it......
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 4993 posts, RR: 41 Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2182 times:
Hi Jeremiah
Thanks. I am also waiting for the first SR 340-600 to fly it. It does not only look damn long, like Amir said, it is damn long. It will be the longest airliner.
Regards Philipp
Mikeymike From United States, joined May 2000, 406 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2135 times:
Ditto the DAMN long part.....i think its percieved to be even longer because they only added a fuselage plug forward of the wing and not aft.
I wonder what the wheel base between the nose and main gears are and how it compares to the 777-300. Some airports had to modify taxi-ways to accomodate the 773, I wonder if they will have to do the same for the 346?
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 4993 posts, RR: 41 Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2005 times:
Future_Pilot, orders: At the moment there are, as I know, more than 70 orders for the A 340-500/600 (the 500 is a bit shorter with more range, -500 about 17'000 km, -600 14'000 km).
I only know that Swissair has ordered 11 340-600 (inkl leased aircrafts) at the moment and will get the first planes in 2002.
Fly-By-Pilot From United States, joined Sep 2000, 209 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2010 times:
It looks out of proportion. Thats wierd that they only added plugs to the front. Probably to avoid tail strikes. Is the wing the same as on the -200,-300?
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 4993 posts, RR: 41 Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1981 times:
Fly-by-Pilot: This is not right, they added frames before AND after the wing. It is a new wing. The "old" 330/340 wing has a span of 60.30 meters (wing area 361.60 squaremeters) the 340-500/600 has a wingspan of 63.45 meters (439.40 squaremeters).
Hamlet69 From United States, joined Mar 2000, 2306 posts, RR: 56 Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1913 times:
Someone more familiar with the specifics can correct me, but I'll try to clear up a few questions that have come up:
Wing: It is neither the A342/3's wing nor a brand-new one. From my understanding, Airbus inserted a wing-root extension to increase span, area, and wing-tank volume. This leads to gaining the desired range/payload requirements while minimizing costs by not adding a new wing.
Orders:
For the A340-500:
Air Canada: 5
Emirates: 6
ILFC: 8
Singapore: 5
Total: 24
For the A340-600:
Aerolineas Argentinas: 6
EgyptAir: 2
Flightlease (Swissair): 9
ILFC: 5 (2 to Swissair, 3 to Cathay)
Lufthansa: 10
Virgin Atlantic: 10
Undisclosed: 5 (AI, leased to China Eastern)
Total: 47
RayChuang From United States, joined Jun 2000, 7111 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1845 times:
I believe that Airbus is awaiting the completion of the Rolls-Royce Trent 500 flight test program now going on with a modified A340-300 that is owned by Airbus.
Airbus is expected to "officially" unveil the A340-600 probably late January 2001 with the test flights set to begin in (probably) early March 2001. I believe that Airbus wants to get JAA/FAA certification on the A340-600 by the middle of 2002, because both Swissair and Virgin Atlantic wants their planes some time in the summer of 2002.
QF777 From Australia, joined Nov 2001, 16 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1802 times:
Well once again Aibus has outdone itself, and come up with an even uglier "aircraft." What a POS that looks like! Yuk! I think there would have to be some emergency exits there, unless those brilliant airbus computers open the roof in an emergency, because we all know those computers aren't capable of much else!
Does anyone else get the feeling the tail was borrowed from the prototype A340??
Well Airbus, I hope you have as much sucess with this aircraft as Boeing has has with the 753 and 739!!
26 D L X: Yeah, I would have to say that the Airbus people are pretty obvious on this thread. This plane is hideous, at least without the paint, engines, nose-c
27 Sushka: Wow nice! does anyone know if it is longer than a 777-300?
28 Airbus_A340: Even though it doesnot have everything sorted out, it is the most beautiful plane i have every seen in my life. It is under test so im sure you can sa
29 Tg 747-300: It look's like a IL62 without engines Tg 747-300
30 Joni: I must say this plane, along with 744, is one of the comeliest I've seen. Incidentally, the 346 looks much better with engines attached (and painted!
31 Ceilidh: Gotta say, it looks pretty awful! With the engines installed, it will be reminiscent of a widebodied DC8-73! Any bets on the number of tailstrikes and
32 Gerardo: This aircraft looks AWESOME BTW, this aircraft will be a little bit longer, than the B773, but not much. I can hardly wait to see it in ZRH in SR-colo
33 ZRH: It will be longer than the 773: 340-600: 75.33 meters; 777-300: 73.79 (for Americans: the difference is about 5 feet). It will have winglets similar t
34 Lowfareair: No offense to anyone, but it looks like they welded several airframe pieces together from ex-military planes(The several shades of green), and added w
35 Airbus_A340: Didnt you know Lowfairair that alot of planes roll out looking like this, yes even boeings trev
36 B737-700: That bird really looks good. Hope to fly in one "soon". B737-700
37 Airbus_A340: hey Lowfairair, all airliners that roll out look basically the same even Boeings.
38 SR3496: It looks really great. But does anybody know which will be the first destination served by SR's A340-600? And what will be the configutation of these
39 220389: I think that Virgin Atlantic Airways will be the first ones to take posestion of the Airbus A340-600. The aircraft looks great. but i dont see the mid
40 RayChuang: After looking at the picture closely, some comments: 1. The tail was painted first due to weight balance considerations. Note that when Boeing builds
41 Gyro: Still needs those winglets too!!! Looks great.
42 Gerardo: The first destinations operated by SR with their A346 will be medium haul destinations for training purposes, just as the first A330-200 was used to C
43 Eg777er: With regards to the fin size, I would imagine it's not too much of a problem. It seems that for AI aircraft the longer the fuse the smaller the tail h
44 Ab.400: The current A340´s have only two wheels on the center-gear and I heard the 340-600 will have two extra wheels. So correction to my first post: The 34
45 Patches: I'm sure this is going to be a fine plane, but it really does look out of perportion, very much like the 757-300. They look like one long pencil! I ca
46 ZRH: The finn is even smaller than the one of the 330/340-200/300. The height of a -200/300 is: 17.88 meters; the height of a -500/600 is only 17.70 meters
47 Trvlr: This plane would definitely not fit at my airport. Aaron G.
48 Lowfareair: I know that planes commonly look like this-my 5 year old cousin is here, and he called it a "Army plane" when he saw it. PS: When did I say that Boein
49 Teahan: The latest news is as follows: The assembly of the first A340 600 has been completed with the engines. First flight will be May 2001 Jeremiah Teahan
50 Jonnyboy: About SR, aren't the A340s gonna replace their MD-11s, 747s and everything else by 2004 or something. Then their fleet would be A319/320/321 A330/340
51 Teahan: Jonnyboy, the B747s are long gone (January) They were replaced by 4 ex LTU MD11s and Airbus A330 200s! Jeremiah Teahan
52 Singapore_Air: Airbus do have a weird colour taste! It looks huge, the A340-500 will look nice as well. I hope Virgin wil be the first to take the 600 and SIA the 50
53 Ed Toner: I like this better than the B-777. Give me 4 engines anyday, especially for long overwater flights.
54 SAA-SAL: For those who don't see the centre gear that's because there is no centre gear!!!!. Airbus said it would remove the centre gear so that it could advan
55 Boeing747-700: Ed Toner, Air Canada is getting the first 340-500 and Swiss is getting the first 340-600
56 Boeing747-700: sorry Ed I ment to answer Singapore_Air's comment.
57 Jbangert: Read some time ago that there was an issue about the distance to some exits in the A 340-600, one view being that Airbus should add two exits (= one o
58 Gerardo: First of all: Virgin will recieve the first A340-600, Swissair will recieve the third, IIRC. I mean, it wouldn't have been fair, as Swissair wasn't th
59 TEDSKI: I would love to see American Airlines and Olympic Airways of Greece order some of these RR Trent 500 powered A340-500/600s.
60 Widebody: The overwing exit has been deleted, and will remain that way for the moment.....Airbus are 100% confident that it will be certified.......the 60ft iss
61 Red Panda: I have a question, how come such a big a/c has only two sets of landing gears? What is the weight of A340-600? The weight should be comparable to 773
62 ZRH: A question to the exit doors. The 777-300 has almost the same length (some feet less) and has a wider fuslage diameter, this means a seat more per row
63 Teahan: Hey Philipp, Yes the B777 300 does have a 5th door! I find it rather alarming the Airbus is taking away two doors! Jeremiah Teahan
64 Blujaay: How Many seats will the A340-500 seat? How Many seats will the A340-500 seat? How Many seats will the 777-300 seat?
65 ZRH: Thanks Jeremiah. You are right, the -600 should have an extra door (on each side). Kind regards Philipp
66 Gerardo: According to Airbus website, the A340-500 can seat 313 pax and the A340-600 380 pax, both in a three class layout. Of course, the definitive capacity
67 Fly-By-Pilot: There is one thing missing in that pic. It doesent have engine-less L1011's and DC10's in the background. ETOPS is here to stay!!!!!
68 Oxygen: the Max capacity of the 777-300 is about 100 more than the A340-600, so it is reasonable that the boeing have more exits.
69 Ab.400: To SAA-AL and Red Panda, the A340-600 will have a center-gear and compared to the current A340´s this gear will have two extra wheels. As someone sta
70 Gerardo: According to official sources, the A340-600 will seat 378 pax in a 3-class layout and the B777-300 only 365 and not about 100 more. Regards Gerardo
71 Gerardo: About the doors. IIRC, the B777-300 has five doors per side. And the proposed A340-600 has also 5 doors per side. Am I right? The only problem with th
72 Widebody: Not exactly Gerardo, there were supposed to be five doors each side, with one at either side of the wing, and one overwing......the overwing door has
73 Gerardo: Widebody: I am not sure, that the problem was the overwing exit. My "version" of the story - as I have been told - was, that the distance between door
74 Widebody: Gerardo, I'm almost 100% sure the overwing exit has been deleted......
75 FDXmech: I was reading a UPS pamphlet welcoming the MD11 to their fleet and it mentioned the A340-600 as being in contention except that a freighter version i
76 Gerardo: A freighter version of the A340-600 is not expected for approx 4 year? Does this mean, Airbus will offer a freighter A340-600 within 4 years? This wou
77 Djmatthews: I can't wait until these birds start flying. I think Virgin Atlantic are the launch cumstomers, however when these do enter serivce with Virgin, we wi
78 Samurai 777: Anybody notice that the WINGLETS are missing from this A340-600!? That bird sure looks big!
79 Red Panda: This pic of 346 reminds me the days when I was a kid playing w/ LEGO. When I built a plane w/ Lego, it always fell apart due to out of dimensions. NOW
81 Airbus_A340: I dont know if anyone has noticed but..... If you look very closely in the picture. You will see the cargo door near the front, it isnt "covered" by "
82 MAC100: Absolutely, I hink you're right. I certainly hope that the green stuff is some kind of protective skin that comes off and not the finished panels!
83 Na: The B777-300 is a fat ugly long sausage, and, sorry, this new Airbus isn´t very much better. Its just another overstretched airliner. Even if the fou
84 MAC100: As a passenger, I prefer flying the "fat ugly sausage" any day!
85 Widebody: For Jesus sakes, almost every plane in the world is rolled out green, then it goes to the paintshop....Airbus and Boeing alike........
86 CPDC10-30: If it cart-wheeled during touch down, I am quite sure that the fore fuselage would just torn apart immediately It is inevitable that any modern airli
87 Oxygen: No, Gerardo, I was talking about the Maximum capacity, not the typical capacity. The three class typical capacity of them is very similar, but in two
88 Gerardo: Following are the capacities for A340-600 and B777-300 according to official sources. Classes A346 B773 1-class ~550 ~550 2-class ~460 451 3-class 380
89 Oxygen: No. According to their websites, the typical capacities for the two should be : Classes A346 B773 1-class -?- ~550 2-class ~419 479 3-class 380 368 Th
90 Gerardo: Believe me, the A340-600 is capable of carrying about 450-460 pax in a 2-class-config and 550 pax on a 1-class-config. I have some official data, but
91 Kangar: Guys, I gotta admit, that when I first saw schematics of the A340-600, I wasn't all that pushed on the notion, but now that I've seen it in the flesh,
92 Gerardo: Kangar, I totally agree. I can't wait to see this huge bird with the four Trent engines Regards Gerardo
93 AerLingus: The A-340's take-off pitch was already mentioned in some other post. The pitch is already pretty high on the 342-343. I can't imagine how high the 346
94 CPDC10-30: I don't imagine that the A340-600 will have as high a takeoff pitch as the -200/300 since it has much better power - similar power to weight as a 744.
95 A340-600: Hi, a340-600 will be a great plane, my username has been choiced in consequence.
96 AerLingus: Re:CPDC-10; Perhaps there could be a double-wide body. Twice as wide as a DC-10 with the length of an A-346! I agree with you on the length being stre
97 Heavierthanair: Suggested names for updated topics 346 with center gear: 346Legged 346 with engines: 346Powered 346 painted: 346Beautified 346 with all above: 346 346
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