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LH & Star Alliance To Get Heathrow East  
User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 19
Posted (8 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8497 times:

Tried a search but didn't find anything.

http://www.thebusinessonline.com/Doc...9579E8-D1AA-4D78-B255-73DEB997EFB5

"BRITISH Airports Authority (BAA) is awarding Lufthansa and Star Alliance airlines exclusive use of its £2.5bn (E3.7bn, $4.9bn) Heath-row East terminal.

It had been unclear which airlines would benefit from the terminal, which will handle 30m passengers a year, when it was announced in April. Heathrow East will rival the £4.5bn Terminal 5, allocated to British Airways, and will be ready almost a year early in 2010.

The Business has learned that Mike Forster, BAA’s business strategy director, last week met chief executives of the Star Alliance in Istanbul to present new proposals for Heathrow East. "

Good news for LH and the Star Alliance, that's if this fog ever clears  Wink

JC


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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4638 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8249 times:

Quoting LHRjc (Thread starter):
Good news for LH and the Star Alliance

Amen! T3 is such a dump and it always packed. This is great news for the big STAR operators at LHR (AC,UA,LH).

Kris



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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8144 times:

Any more slot potential with more terminal space with Heast?

User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8135 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 2):
Any more slot potential with more terminal space with Heast?

The slots are to do with runway capacity and LHR is, pretty much, at capacity. I believe ATC could technically handle a few more aircraft per hour, but the number is capped per CAA rules.


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8072 times:

Although the article seems to have branded LH as the main airline involved, it does reveal that the negociations have been conducted through bmi who will be the main user of the new facility - should also help the compete with BA and their new T5

Will also be far better for connections between Star Alliance Airlines having them all in one place



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User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8062 times:

East? Which terminal is that referred to?

User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5319 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8009 times:

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 5):
East? Which terminal is that referred to?

I presume 1 and 2.


User currently offlineCainanuk From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7870 times:

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 1):
Amen! T3 is such a dump and it always packed. This is great news for the big STAR operators at LHR (AC,UA,LH).

Kris

Erm....

Whilst AC,UA and LH are certainly "big" carriers, they are far from being the major Star Alliance carrier at LHR, that honour would fall to little ole BD wit about 14% of the TOTAL Heathrow slots.



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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2412 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7816 times:

This is old news.

Quoting Jimyvr (Reply 5):
East? Which terminal is that referred to?

Once T5 is up and running, T1 and T2 will be demolished and a new Terminal (now called "Heathrow East" because they can't think of a number) will be built. Star Alliance will then occupy that, while SkyTeam is at T4 and One World is at T3.


Here is a question: Where will Star Alliance be while Heathrow East is being built?


User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7785 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 8):
Once T5 is up and running, T1 and T2 will be demolished and a new Terminal (now called "Heathrow East" because they can't think of a number) will be built. Star Alliance will then occupy that, while SkyTeam is at T4 and One World is at T3.


Here is a question: Where will Star Alliance be while Heathrow East is being built?

Only T2 and the Queen's Building will be demolished, not T1. Star will be based in T1 post-2008.

http://www.baa.com/portal/controller...811d93c010VgnVCM10000036821c0a____

http://www.baa.com/portal/controller...7f3f34c010VgnVCM10000036821c0a____

And a Media Player presentation:

mms://od2-ms.unbn.unit.net/CM/prn/baa/HeathrowEast/HeathrowEastDVD.wmv

[Edited 2006-12-22 02:04:56]

User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2412 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7607 times:

Quoting Feroze (Reply 9):

Only T2 and the Queen's Building will be demolished, not T1. Star will be based in T1 post-2008.

No, that is not correct because it is not possible: http://www.baa.com/assets/B2CPortal/...tatic%20Files/LHReast_birdseye.jpg

As you can see, Heathrow East will be on the land T1 is on. So, there isn't any way T1 can be in existence if Heathrow East is being built. (I am talking about the gate areas. I see that the check in area for T1 is being left intact for the time being)


User currently offlineSapphireLHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7585 times:

The available capacity at T1 following BA's move to T5 will be taken up by the flights now operating from T2. After the demolition of T2 and rebuilding of the new Heathrow East, T1 will be demolished and the 2nd phase of Heathrow East will be completed. As far as I am aware there is still no definitive plans to demolish the "old" Control Tower as disscusions are still ongoing to what its future usage will be.

User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7548 times:

Quoting SapphireLHR (Reply 11):
The available capacity at T1 following BA's move to T5 will be taken up by the flights now operating from T2. After the demolition of T2 and rebuilding of the new Heathrow East, T1 will be demolished and the 2nd phase of Heathrow East will be completed. As far as I am aware there is still no definitive plans to demolish the "old" Control Tower as disscusions are still ongoing to what its future usage will be.

Same basic idea as the new construction at YYZ.. build half, move into that half, knock the rest down, finish the building.. voila!



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7520 times:

The opening of Heathrow East is hoped for March 2012.

User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7208 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 13):
The opening of Heathrow East is hoped for March 2012.

It's good that much should be done by the time the Olympics start.



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User currently offlineUALMMFlyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6968 times:

Any idea which terminal Virgin will end up using?
Will Virgin co-share with Star as result of its close tie with SQ?

Sorry if this has been covered before.



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User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6846 times:

Quoting UALMMFlyer (Reply 15):
Any idea which terminal Virgin will end up using?

The BAA plan is for VS to go to Heathrow East with Star eventually. In the interim it may go to T4 with the non-aligned carriers. This link points to HE being Star + Virgin if there is agreement.

http://baa.com/assets/B2CPortal/Stat.../Nov05HeathrowEastpresentation.pdf (Page 21)


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6791 times:

Star are moving into T1 starting 2008, T2 and the Queens Building are being demolished and will be rebuilt in time for the London Olympics.

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3985 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6468 times:

Quoting SapphireLHR (Reply 11):
As far as I am aware there is still no definitive plans to demolish the "old" Control Tower as disscusions are still ongoing to what its future usage will be.

Viewing area? Now that would be nice...!


User currently offlineIAHFLYER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5455 times:

What will happen to the tube, aren't 1-2-3 all at the same stop?


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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6373 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5329 times:

Quoting IAHFLYER (Reply 19):
What will happen to the tube, aren't 1-2-3 all at the same stop?

They are in the middle of the airport along with the bus station so I'm sure there will be some way of getting there within walking distance.

Where will gates 80-90 be? In the image provided by Kaitak744 you can see two Aer Lingus aircraft parked up at gates 89 and 90 will they remain?


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3309 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5199 times:
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Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 1):
This is great news for the big STAR operators at LHR (AC,UA,LH).

How many flights to AC, UA, and LH have combined to LHR daily (or weekly, whatever). I remember seeing 9 or 10 AC aircraft on the ground at once when I was there two summers ago. Also, what destinations and frequencies to AC, UA, and LH fly to?

Quoting Cainanuk (Reply 7):
fall to little ole BD wit about 14% of the TOTAL Heathrow slots.

BD will no longer be in existence in a few months if I recall correctly, I may be thinking of another airline.

TIS



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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6373 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5091 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 21):
BD will no longer be in existence in a few months if I recall correctly, I may be thinking of another airline.

 boggled  I know BD did have a few problems and have dropped a few routes recently but I can't believe it will disappear in a few months, I hope your thinking of another airline, I like Bmi!


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5000 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 21):
How many flights to AC, UA, and LH have combined to LHR daily (or weekly, whatever). I remember seeing 9 or 10 AC aircraft on the ground at once when I was there two summers ago. Also, what destinations and frequencies to AC, UA, and LH fly to?

From what I can tell, weekly departures:

LH 206
AC 70
UA 125


User currently offlineCainanUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4972 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 21):
BD will no longer be in existence in a few months if I recall correctly, I may be thinking of another airline.

TIS

Funny that! You are a REAL joker. Being so mature I am certain you must know all the ins and outs of the industry. What would I know, heck, I only WORK for the company!



Cainan Cornelius
25 AirbusfanYYZ : AC to LHR YYZ AC868 Daily YYZ AC856 Daily YYZ AC848 Daily YYZ AC858 Daily YYZ AC862 Daily (IIRC Summer Only) YVR AC896 Daily YVR AC854 Daily YYC AC85
26 Gigneil : The article says it will be ready in 2010. NS
27 9252fly : So if I understand it correctly the assignments for the terminals will be, T5-BA T4-Skyteam T3-Oneworld HE-Star Alliance,VS and other non-aligned carr
28 Zvezda : All Star Alliance flights from LHR by airport, carrier, weekly frequency: ABZ BD 31 AMS BD 53 BKK TG 14 BHD BD 56 BRU BD 41 YYC AC 7 CPT SA 7 ORD UA
29 Humberside : I think bmi deserve priase for trying to keep domestic flights running the past few days - they seem to have kept out of the headlines and just got o
30 Post contains images Leezyjet : I guess they will demolish T2 and QB and leave T1 as it is initially, then once HE is built they will move everyone in, then get on and demolish T1 t
31 Post contains links VV701 : Yes. But Willie Walch of BA recently said after talking to BAA that he expected that T5C would open eleven months earlier than originally planned in
32 Bmidispatcher : Gratefully received! Thanks!
33 ANITIX87 : Who's the mature one, again? All I was saying is that I read somewhere on these forums that BMI will be going out of business soon. I didn't say anyt
34 Post contains links Zvezda : 2010 is the date for T5C, not for Heathrow East. See this link for the March 2012 date: http://www.baa.com/portal/controller...7f3f34c010VgnVCM100000
35 BMED : I'll second that. I love flying with them between EDI/GLA and LHR. It hardly takes any time between the central coach station and the gate 8 area.
36 Antonovman : The last I heard, they were hoping planning permission would not be required as they are only replacing buildings which are already there, and not st
37 Post contains images Leezyjet : I thought that myself comapred to the amount of time T5 has taken, but then I remembered where T5 was built and what it was built on. That took a goo
38 Cainanuk : And all I am saying is to check your facts (keyword here being "FACTS") prior to saying something stupid. Perhaps I am being thin skinned but yor rem
39 Post contains images Skidmarks : Wow, touchy!! I do believe you may have been thinking of BA Connect, ANTIX, although the usual rumours abound about BMi and Virgin etc etc. As a BA C
40 VV701 : Thanks for this link: " target=_blank>http://www.baa.com/portal/controller...a____ It states that the March 2012 date for Heathrow East is an 'ambitio
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