Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 42 Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3233 times:
Vanguard. What a name for an airline. Especially for one that was based at...of all places....Kansas City. Anyone care to shed some light on what this airline was about?
I know they operated 737-200's and later, MD-80's. But for a brief time, they also operated a couple of Dash 300's, as the accompanying pictures show. Frankly, I'm surprised this airline lasted as long as they did.
All three were taken at LAX, if memory serves correctly, sometime in 1996. I know they started in early 1995 and didn't come to LAX until quite some time later. Judging from the conditions (picture 1 shows very little smog whereas pix 2 and 3 are considerably smoggy), I apparently saw this plane and took the pix on 2 different dates.
MSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3139 times:
I think we (NJ) got those -300's from Aloha if I can remember correctly. One of the trainers in MCI told me that anyway. I got one with NJ well after the last 300 was retired.
NJ operated 737-200's (including one painted in the new scheme, N239TA...gorgeous bird), MD-80's, and MD-87's at the very end.
It was an excellent little airline. I actually pushed back the last flight from MSY with about 100 people on it and then listened in on the conference call telling everyone that the airline is out of business and no one needs to report to work tomorrow.
Hawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3237 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3013 times:
Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2): I think we (NJ) got those -300's from Aloha if I can remember correctly. One of the trainers in MCI told me that anyway.
Looks right. Checking rzjets.net, both look like they had the same sequence of operators: Transbrasil, Aloha, Vanguard, America West, Shandong, Bluebird Cargo, and Estafeta Carga Aerea. Sequential line numbers too, almost looks like these two like to hang out together.
Jrlander From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2955 times:
I flew them on one trip- MCI-MSP-MCI. The people working for the airline were very nice. But- that's all I can really say. Our flight to MSP was late by several hours, as there were so many extra people the airline decided to upgrade the flight from a 737-200 to a 737-300. The problem was that the plane was not yet at MCI.
On the return, we were also about 4 hours late. Evidently there was a light out on the front of the plane. They couldn't get it fixed. We tried to get another flight home. However, Vanguard had no agreements with other airlines. The worst part of it was that the flight was supposed to depart before 6AM. It was an awfully miserable morning.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4539 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2910 times:
Yes it seemed a friendly fun airline, I flew them once on MYR-ATL, nice service, no complaints.
MCI served as mini hub as well, Vanguard often showed up as cheapest option if you'd wanted to go between any of the cities they flew to. Obviously they didn't reach the size to do that profitably, otherwise they could be comparible to what Frontier or Spirit is now.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?