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User currently offlineKWI From Kuwait, joined Apr 2000, 144 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Hi guys, can someone please tell me what the loads are like for KL 1082 and KL 457 leaving tomorrow 24 Dec?

thank you in advance.

KWI

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User currently offlineIberiaA319 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 574 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2720 times:

There you are, your flights won't be full:

KL 1082 MAN 11:25 AMS 13:50 737 0 J3 C3 Z3 D3 X3 S3 B3 M2 L3 W2
and
KL 457 AMS 15:40 KWI 23:15 332 0 J9 C9 Z9 D9 S9 B9 M9 K9 H9 L9 Q9 T8 V8 W2


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Quoting IberiaA319 (Reply 1):
There you are, your flights won't be full:

KL 1082 MAN 11:25 AMS 13:50 737 0 J3 C3 Z3 D3 X3 S3 B3 M2 L3 W2
and
KL 457 AMS 15:40 KWI 23:15 332 0 J9 C9 Z9 D9 S9 B9 M9 K9 H9 L9 Q9 T8 V8 W2

Though it's quite likely they indeed won't be full (at least the AMS-KWI flight), booking class availability is not too much of an indication.

They're too dependant on overbooking policies as well as the general sales policies for a specific flight/date combination; I've been on flights showing 0 in all classes to find several seats available, and I've been on flights showing 9 in just about every booking class, which turned out be completely full.



Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineFJWH From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2675 times:

@IberiaA319

Where can you get that information about flight loads?

Gr, FJWH



FlightS in the next 3 months: MSP, PHX, MEM, NCE, TFS, BCN. All round trips from AMS
User currently offlineIberiaA319 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 574 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

Quoting FJWH (Reply 3):
Where can you get that information about flight loads?

You have to be a registered user of Amadeus, Apollo, Sabre or any GDS.

There are also several tools for free, for example http://kvs.unrealnetwork.com/Tool/?F=RT (there are more...)


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Quoting KWI (Thread starter):
KL 1082 and KL 457 leaving tomorrow 24 Dec?

Are you non-revving? Because there is an earlier flight to AMS (KL1072, STD 06.10) and with the situation in the UK caused by the fog there maybe a backlog of passengers. So it's really better to try to get out as early as possible and have some time at SPL before your connecting flight at 15.40. X-mas atmosphere is very nice with loads of decorations.

If you're not non-revving, just ask the agent at the desk for the loads and maybe she can block a free seat for you so you'll have some space. Enjoy the A330-200 to KWI!



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineKWI From Kuwait, joined Apr 2000, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Lamendianaranja,

I won't be non-reving, so hopefully there shouldn't be a problem getting to Amsterdam. KL A330's are awesome, great planes, and very comfortable. I always look forward to flying them.

thanks for your help.

KWI


User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

Sent you a message KWI. Get back to me soon.

Rgrds, Matt


User currently offlineSK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 976 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

Quoting IberiaA319 (Reply 1):
There you are, your flights won't be full:

 no 

Quoting Leskova (Reply 2):
booking class availability is not too much of an indication.

 checkmark 

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 5):
she can block a free seat for you

 boggled  she? there are plenty of guys at check-in as well... Big grin

I check the KL check-in system. KL1082 is overbooked by just a few seats in m-class and has a couple of open seats in Europe Select. KL457 is HEAVILY oversold in M-class, however c-class is wide open.

Enjoy your flight!


User currently offlineKWI From Kuwait, joined Apr 2000, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

hmmm, I'm booked on M class...think there would be a chance I'd be bumped up to Europe Select/World Business Class?

KWI


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Quoting SK601 (Reply 8):
KL457 is HEAVILY oversold in M-class, however c-class is wide open.



Quoting KWI (Reply 9):
think there would be a chance I'd be bumped up to Europe Select/World Business Class?

Try your luck at the gate, if the Gate Agent is in a good mood and you're a nice guy, who knows, she might do it. Elites get preference but you might get lucky.

Quoting SK601 (Reply 8):
she? there are plenty of guys at check-in as well..

but the nice ones left  crying  ... same for Gate Agents of course



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 2400 times:

Quoting SK601 (Reply 8):
I check the KL check-in system. KL1082 is overbooked by just a few seats in m-class and has a couple of open seats in Europe Select. KL457 is HEAVILY oversold in M-class, however c-class is wide open.

Weird considering it's showing D9 W2.  Confused



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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 11):
Weird considering it's showing D9 W2.

Not really all that weird - happens every day... that's why I posted this comment:

Quoting Leskova (Reply 2):
booking class availability is not too much of an indication.

It can give you a general idea, but it's not even close to an exact measurement.



Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4496 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 11):
Weird considering it's showing D9 W2.



Quoting Leskova (Reply 12):
Not really all that weird - happens every day... that's why I posted this comment

It is actually weird since the D and W buckets are award booking classes, and although overbooking is a common practice, one would expect that KLM would not make award tickets available in cases of serious overbooking. I guess that WBC must be really empty and/or that the AMS KWI route has a large no show factor.


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