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AA: 762s To Be On MIA-LAX; 772s MIA-ORD  
User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8408 times:

American Airlines will operate a daily 3-class 767-200ER flight between Miami and Los Angeles starting this summer. AA currently operates one daily 3-class Miami-Los Angeles flight with a 772. The new 762 flight, eff. 12Jul07, perfectly timed for business travelers to enjoy AA's three-class 762 service:

AA 280 LAX 0930-1720 MIA 762
AA 823 MIA 1825-2105 LAX 762

In addition, the recently introduced 7th-daily seasonal frequency is now year-round. And a useless fact: Every single Boeing type in AA's fleet is used on MIA-LAX: 738 (1x), 757 (3x), 763 (1x), 762 (1x), and 772 (1x). American Airlines operates only three domestic three-class routes, Miami-Los Angeles, New York City-Los Angeles, and New York City-San Francisco.

During June and July, AA will use the 772 on certain days on the following ORD-MIA frequency:

AA 2805 ORD 1105-1455 MIA 772
AA 2773 MIA 1555-1805 ORD 772

Also on the MIA front for the summer timetable, year-round upgrades:

Ft. Myers (+1x --> 4x daily)
Key West (+1x --> 6x daily)
Montego Bay (+1x --> 3x daily)

Seasonal frequency upgrades:

Bermuda (+2w --> 5x weekly)
Santiago de Los Caballero (+1x --> 2x daily)
Puerto Plata (+3w --> 10x weekly)
Punta Cana (+3w --> 2x daily)

[Edited 2006-12-23 22:04:57]


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User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8359 times:

Interesting, Mark. Thank you so much for posting. I only wish that rather than adding such excentric upgrades on the MIA-LAX route, they either add extra flights or upgrade the equipemnt on the MIA-SFO run. The three dailys are currently flown with 757 -- a monthly torture in my case.

MB


User currently offlineAACUN From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8334 times:
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Actually, If Im not wrong the 0730 departure from MIA to SFO is actually a 767-300.....The return leaves SFO at 1150 every day.

User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8335 times:

Quoting LVTMB (Reply 1):
The three dailys are currently flown with 757 -- a monthly torture in my case.

The morning MIA-SFO flight is a 763, as is the mid-afternoon SFO-MIA flight. In addition, with the recently uploaded summer schedule changes, MIA-SFO will be a 763 through at least October 2007.



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8344 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8315 times:
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Miami-LAX never gets the same "better" airplanes JFK, Bos and IAD get to LAX. Miami always seems like an after thought at DFW headquarters. Miami to LAX should have the same three class service teh JFK-LAX flights do.

User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3332 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8303 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 4):
Miami-LAX never gets the same "better" airplanes JFK, Bos and IAD get to LAX. Miami always seems like an after thought at DFW headquarters. Miami to LAX should have the same three class service teh JFK-LAX flights do.

Isn't that just what they're doing by putting the three-class 762s on the MIA-LAX route? I can't recall seeing a 772 on any JFK/BOS/IAD-LAX flights, and an international 772 to me seems like a better in-flight experience than the 762 (keep in mind that I have never flown on either of them).


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25202 posts, RR: 48
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8284 times:

Quoting LVTMB (Reply 1):
excentric upgrades

I would hardly call AA catering to good business demand between the cities eccentric. There is strong flow of entertainment and fashion travel between the cities in addition to premium traffic connections thanks to AA's strong Latin America network.



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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8260 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 4):
Miami-LAX never gets the same "better" airplanes JFK, Bos and IAD get to LAX. Miami always seems like an after thought at DFW headquarters. Miami to LAX should have the same three class service teh JFK-LAX flights do.

What on earth are you talking about? MIA-LAX has far better service than BOS-LAX and IAD-LAX on AA. MIA-LAX has widebodies, including the 763 and 772, and more than double the frequency of those routes. BOS/IAD-LAX is all narrowbodies, and entirely 2-class service. AA has more seats and frequencies on MIA-LAX than they do on JFK-SFO. Miami-Los Angeles is AA's second most busiest trans-con route after only JFK-LAX, and the only domestic route in the entire AA network to feature American's 777 3-class service.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8083 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
nd a useless fact: Every single Boeing type in AA's fleet is used on MIA-LAX: 738 (1x), 757 (3x), 763 (1x), 762 (1x), and 772 (1x).



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
Miami-Los Angeles is AA's second most busiest trans-con route after only JFK-LAX, and the only domestic route in the entire AA network to feature American's 777 3-class service.

Hi Mark..cool stuff!

Is DFW-ORD-DFW 772ER run considered 2-class flight?



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8067 times:

I was surprised to see MIA-LAX sees all boeing planes, is this the only route to do so?

Very nice to see a 777 on a ORD-MIA, one of the first for ORD I believe?

Alex



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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8029 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 8):
Is DFW-ORD-DFW 772ER run considered 2-class flight?

Yes, as is MIA-DFW 772 flight.

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 9):
I was surprised to see MIA-LAX sees all boeing planes, is this the only route to do so?

In AA's network, yes.



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User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8006 times:

Hey just out of curiosity, I'm glad to see the widebodie expansion on AA domesticly, but where are the frames coming from? are they pulling down the Transcon out of JFK? and where did the 763's come from? I thought those where pretty well commited to intl.... thanks for any answers.....

*p.s. good luck to all my friends on the gate board at ORD, the extra widebodies are going to make it interesting!!!



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8006 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 8):
Is DFW-ORD-DFW 772ER run considered 2-class flight?

Yes, as is MIA-DFW 772 flight.

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 9):
I was surprised to see MIA-LAX sees all boeing planes, is this the only route to do so?

In AA's network, yes.

That's what I tought...great..thanks... Smile



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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8000 times:

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 11):
Hey just out of curiosity, I'm glad to see the widebodie expansion on AA domesticly, but where are the frames coming from? are they pulling down the Transcon out of JFK? and where did the 763's come from? I thought those where pretty well commited to intl.... thanks for any answers.....

Clever scheduling which leads to better aircraft utlization of planes that are sitting between international segments.



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4113 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7986 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
What on earth are you talking about? MIA-LAX has far better service than BOS-LAX and IAD-LAX on AA. MIA-LAX has widebodies, including the 763 and 772, and more than double the frequency of those routes. BOS/IAD-LAX is all narrowbodies, and entirely 2-class service. AA has more seats and frequencies on MIA-LAX than they do on JFK-SFO. Miami-Los Angeles is AA's second most busiest trans-con route after only JFK-LAX, and the only domestic route in the entire AA network to feature American's 777 3-class service.

Absolutely, and the 757s flying between BOS-LAX are a supposed 'upgrade' from the 738s they used before. I'm someone who remembers DC-10s and 767s on that route, and it's been downgraded ever since. BOS-LAX is treated nowhere near as well as JFK-LAX is.

Chris in NH


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7957 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 14):

Absolutely, and the 757s flying between BOS-LAX are a supposed 'upgrade' from the 738s they used before.

AA's 757s are the worst in the fleet, IMO. I'm unfortunate enough to have to fly them frequently since, until recently, they were the only aircraft used on MIA-ORD (there is now a daily 763 rotation, which I try to book when my schedule allows). The 757 and 738 are like night a day. AA's 738s are great aircraft with one of the most comfortable domestic coach products I have ever experienced, while the 757s are one of the most uncomfortable. Going from a 757 to a 738 usually isn't an upgrade, unless you are talking about AA.



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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7876 times:

The 757s are in such horrid condition that I aim for the 738s or 777s when traveling to South Florida.


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25202 posts, RR: 48
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7858 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 14):
BOS-LAX is treated nowhere near as well as JFK-LAX is.

No offence to the fine city of Boston, however its no where close to the importance nor size of NYC hence it receives significantly less service. Boston simply cannot support the volume nor type of service NY is able.

Even when one compares BOS & MIA, South Florida continues to grow strongly both economically and population wise, gaining importance on the international stage while Boston for all practical purposes remains status quo.
Also dont forget, as is the Miami-Ft Lauderdale MSA exceeds the Boston-Cambrige-Qunicy MSA by well over a million people and continues to see a 6.6% growth rate versus Bostons 0.53% between 2000-2005, so its somewhat natural that it would also continue to draw more and more traffic as years pass.



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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7818 times:

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 5):
an international 772 to me seems like a better in-flight experience than the 762

It certainly is.

The 762s are old and, while the interiors are in pretty good shape for the most part, you definitely get an 80s kind of nostalgia feeling when you step aboard. The overhead bins are small and there are no individually adjustable air vents above each seat. And no PTVs.

The 772 is, well, much newer and in great shape on the inside. And every seat has a PTV, including the skymap which is always nice to have on 5+ hour flights.

I'm a fan of both aircraft and am always happy to fly in coach on either. It's having to fly coach on the 757s that I absolutely hate (though 1st class on the AA 757s is ok).


User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7781 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
AA's 757s are the worst in the fleet, IMO.

You are definetely not alone in that sediment.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
I'm unfortunate enough to have to fly them frequently since, until recently, they were the only aircraft used on MIA-ORD (there is now a daily 763 rotation, which I try to book when my schedule allows

I would try to do the same thing. Long ago it was A300's on that route. How long has it been since the A300's last flew this route? Eitherway, the 763 is the best option.



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User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7777 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
The morning MIA-SFO flight is a 763, as is the mid-afternoon SFO-MIA flight.

Mmmm .... I guess that may have changed recently. During the past few months they've had 7-5s on all three. Actually, I think it was September or October when I was on the mid-afternoon SFO-MIA which diverted to New Orleans due to a medical emergency. Definetely a 7-5. I booked the morning MIA-SFO last month but they canceled it the night before and route me via DFW. But I am sure the reservation stated it was a 757.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
In addition, with the recently uploaded summer schedule changes, MIA-SFO will be a 763 through at least October 2007.

Not all three, I presume. Just the ones you mention? That is good news. I will certainly make sure to book myself on the 763s.

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 6):
would hardly call AA catering to good business demand between the cities eccentric.

That was a little drop of sarcasm. Not for everyone, I guess. Sorry ... And you are right. MIA-LAX obviously brings in quite more business that SFO. The MIA-SFO flights, however, are always booked solid. Go figure.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
AA's 757s are the worst in the fleet, IMO.

Agree!

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
I'm unfortunate enough to have to fly them frequently

Same here. MIA-SFO-MIA though.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
AA's 738s are great aircraft with one of the most comfortable domestic coach products I have ever experienced, while the 757s are one of the most uncomfortable. Going from a 757 to a 738 usually isn't an upgrade, unless you are talking about AA.

Fully agree!

MB


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4113 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7701 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 17):
Even when one compares BOS & MIA, South Florida continues to grow strongly both economically and population wise, gaining importance on the international stage while Boston for all practical purposes remains status quo.
Also dont forget, as is the Miami-Ft Lauderdale MSA exceeds the Boston-Cambrige-Qunicy MSA by well over a million people and continues to see a 6.6% growth rate versus Bostons 0.53% between 2000-2005, so its somewhat natural that it would also continue to draw more and more traffic as years pass.

And population trends won't deviate from that 'status quo,' in my opinion. Despite 'talk' to the contrary by politicians in Massachusetts, the state is not as welcoming to business as they'd like to portray themselves. Take the movie-making industry. They wring their hands about how to draw more Hollywood film production to Massachusetts and Boston. Then, when a production does come there, the unions pretty much carve them up and spit out the bones. It's worth trying to make Vancouver or Toronto look like Boston for a movie if those unions can be avoided.

Bottom line: More companies and residents (legal ones, anyway) are leaving rather than coming to Boston and Massachusetts. That doesn't bode well for increases in service, and indeed Logan really has been treated as a 'status quo' airport by most of the legacy mainline carriers. Sure, jetBlue and AirTran are exceptions to that, but by and large United/American/Delta/USAirways/Continental etc. have--at best--mostly treaded water with respect to Logan. At worst, they've either cut frequencies or the size of the aircraft serving some once-key routes (i.e. BOS-MIA on AA, which went from A300s to 757s, as one example).

Chris in NH


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4503 posts, RR: 72
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7657 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
During June and July, AA will use the 772 on certain days on the following ORD-MIA frequency:

AA 2805 ORD 1105-1455 MIA 772
AA 2773 MIA 1555-1805 ORD 772



Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 11):
Hey just out of curiosity, I'm glad to see the widebodie expansion on AA domesticly, but where are the frames coming from? are they pulling down the Transcon out of JFK? and where did the 763's come from? I thought those where pretty well commited to intl.... thanks for any answers.....



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Clever scheduling which leads to better aircraft utlization of planes that are sitting between international segments.

MIA has plenty of spare B772 capacity sitting around at MIA from 3 early morning overnight arrivals from South America, only one of which is currently used for the LAX roundtrip. There is absolutely no problem of available capacity to send one frame up and down to ORD.

American's B772 fleet features some of the lowest utilization rates in the industry and the fleet can very well take some additional utilization without jeopardizing the overall stability of the operation. Add to that the minuscule likelihood of AA's getting their hands on that additional China rights, and it looks to me that we might well see the B772 deployed on some additional routes.


User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7568 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 17):
No offence to the fine city of Boston, however its no where close to the importance nor size of NYC hence it receives significantly less service. Boston simply cannot support the volume nor type of service NY is able.

Even when one compares BOS & MIA, South Florida continues to grow strongly both economically and population wise, gaining importance on the international stage while Boston for all practical purposes remains status quo.
Also dont forget, as is the Miami-Ft Lauderdale MSA exceeds the Boston-Cambrige-Qunicy MSA by well over a million people and continues to see a 6.6% growth rate versus Bostons 0.53% between 2000-2005, so its somewhat natural that it would also continue to draw more and more traffic as years pass.

Well of course NYC is more important than Boston. I really don't think anyone in here was debating that issue. The Miami metro area also is much larger land wise so of course there is going to be more people. Boston is still a much larger and more important business center than the Miami area is. BOS has continued to grow since 2002 and is going to post another solid year of growth.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 21):
And population trends won't deviate from that 'status quo,' in my opinion. Despite 'talk' to the contrary by politicians in Massachusetts, the state is not as welcoming to business as they'd like to portray themselves. Take the movie-making industry. They wring their hands about how to draw more Hollywood film production to Massachusetts and Boston. Then, when a production does come there, the unions pretty much carve them up and spit out the bones. It's worth trying to make Vancouver or Toronto look like Boston for a movie if those unions can be avoided.

Bottom line: More companies and residents (legal ones, anyway) are leaving rather than coming to Boston and Massachusetts. That doesn't bode well for increases in service, and indeed Logan really has been treated as a 'status quo' airport by most of the legacy mainline carriers. Sure, jetBlue and AirTran are exceptions to that, but by and large United/American/Delta/USAirways/Continental etc. have--at best--mostly treaded water with respect to Logan. At worst, they've either cut frequencies or the size of the aircraft serving some once-key routes (i.e. BOS-MIA on AA, which went from A300s to 757s, as one example).

I am sorry but that is not true, the business leaving the area. Massachusetts has gained well over 80,000 jobs of the 200,000 they lost post 9-11 and is going to continue to grow. The population has completely stabilized and the state grew last year. You picked the worst industry when trying to make Boston look bad for economic growth. Massachusetts has NEVER been ahot bed for Hollywood productions. UA certainly has not. They have added a third daily BOS-LAX flight and have upgraded 2 of the 4 daily SFO flights to 763s. DL has added new routes and LAX seemsto be working this time. AA is the rare exception and they are cutting capacity in favor of increasing yields. The airlines may be cutting service, but the passenger numbers continue to rise. The loss of the 300s on the BOS-MIA route was done by AA as a simplification of their fleet, which makes perfect sense.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7384 times:

Quoting B752OS (Reply 23):
The Miami metro area also is much larger land wise so of course there is going to be more people.

Actually, it isn't. The Miami metro area is 6,137 square miles, of which approximately 82% is marshland. The habitable part of the Miami metro is 1,116 square miles. Boston's metro, which is almost entirely habitable, is 4,674 square miles, nearly four times the land size of the Miami metro.

Metro Miami's population density of ~4,407 people per square mile (of habitable land) is nearly double Boston's of ~2,323 people per square mile (of habitable land).

Quoting B752OS (Reply 23):
. Boston is still a much larger and more important business center than the Miami area is.

On a domestic scale, of course. Absolutely no doubting that. On an international scale? Not really.

Quoting B752OS (Reply 23):
BOS has continued to grow since 2002 and is going to post another solid year of growth.

Yes it has, but so has every airport. Boston's 2005 traffic figures were below Boston's 2000 figures. So much for the "whenever someone drops service another airline replaces them right away" theory.

[Edited 2006-12-24 08:15:46]


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25 MAH4546 : The A300s have not been on the route for at least six years. Before AA stopped flying 738s to O'Hare and MD80s to Miami, the route was a mix of S80/7
26 Tommy767 : If you ask me, the interiors is what is keeping the thrill of commerical aviation alive. My recent LAX-JFK on an AA 762 was amazing and I enjoy the n
27 HB-IWC : What about AA's plan for India service via BRU? No longer deemed competitive with all the nonstop services around, I presume?
28 MAH4546 : Pretty much. Summer of 2005, I would have said JFK-BRU-BOM (which would also have likely been joined by a new USA-BRU route, MIA or DFW) was as good
29 Jacobin777 : Hopefully no pilot issues..at least its "open skies" so there shouldn't be a "lobbying problem".. This is where not having a -200LR is going to be a
30 BA787 : Any reason why this much loved airliner in Europe is hated by you guys in AA and UA form? Just bad interiors?
31 KC135TopBoom : I thought AA had parked all of there B-767-200s and B-767-200ERs. So, the B-767-300ERs are not the only 76s they are still flying? We don't see any AA
32 BA787 : AA has parked all of the -200's but still operates 12 (or is it 13) -200ERs and will for the foreseeable future
33 Dutchjet : That AA is using its ""business jet"" , the 762ER with a full F class interior, is proof of the growing business traffic on the MIA-LAX route; its an
34 Post contains images BA787 : I can always rely on you to give me a thorough reply Is it the same on the newer 752's the 2000 made ones etc?
35 Dutchjet : New or old, the entire AA 757 fleet has a "'below-average"" feel........some thought that the ex-TW birds were more comfortable (the ones now leaving
36 ChrisNH : There's NO evidence of that. Going to UAs own web site, I picked a random weekday--January 16--and found only TWO BOS-LAX nonstops...flights 161 & 16
37 PRAirbus : AA will enhance the 762's cabins starting Summer 2007. It was recently announced to AA employees. The FC seats will be new and FC will get an addt'l s
38 N62NA : Yes, frequently on EWR-MIA and MIA-SJU runs. The 757 is a fantastic airplane, but the coach sardine can configuration and bare bones seats (comfort w
39 PRAirbus : The "AA rumor mill" indicates new coach seats will be installed on the 757s when they get a cabin upgrade for F and Y. The AB6 coach seats are better
40 Warreng24 : Technically the DC-9-80 (Super 80) is a Boeing....
41 Sptv : where is the additional 762ER coming from? I was under the impression that utilization on the JFK-SFO/LAX routes is pretty high. Is AA redeploying equ
42 Sfojfk : Don't know if they are redeploying the 762s that they have going back and forth between JFK and MIA.
43 MAH4546 : That flight remains. AA has been slowly removing 762s and reducing frequencies on JFK-SFO. I have a feeling that AA is testing the waters on removing
44 Laxintl : Not just that, however I would say United's hubbing presence at SFO and its p.s. product has affected AA on that route more then in LA. As of now JFK
45 B752OS : How does passenger growth shoot down my point? Let me explain. AA trims BOS-LAX, UA steps in and adds a third daily flight. AA has dropped several Fl
46 DCAYOW : Looks like AA will also put a 762 on the afternoon SAN-JFK flight starting February 2007. Will be nice to have a wide-body on the route, even though i
47 MAH4546 : He might be looking at a Saturday schedule, in which there are only two daily flights on LAX-BOS (and three on BOS-SFO). Though he is right about wid
48 Tommy767 : If AA eventually replaces their 752s with the 738/S80 type seats, I will bet you thousands that almost all the users here on A.net will stop complain
49 B752OS : That has been the pattern for BOS over tha last few years, other carriers picking up service dropped by someone else. Major cities that carriers, nam
50 ElmoTheHobo : Miami is home to many more major businesses with major Latin American and African businesses, which can be partly attriuted to its location. Plain an
51 American 767 : They did already, but only in the Y Cabin, although I don't know if all 757-223's at American have received the new upholstery on the seats in coach.
52 ElmoTheHobo : Ben, The 757s still don't have the new seats, they have the nicer blue upholstery that the rest of the coach seats have across the fleet. They still d
53 AJMIA : Three class MIA-LAX service is awesome, but I wish they would do it for all flights or none. Are there any parked 762s that could be returned to servi
54 TrijetsRMissed : AA has a dozen 762s that are stored. The majority of them are planned to be scrapped.
55 Dutchjet : All of which are due for heavy maintainance and required avionics upgrades....it would be a huge investment to get these airplanes back into the air,
56 American 767 : The non ER's definitely will be, don't expect those to ever return to service. American has 12 762's grounded, 8 of those being the 8 non ER's, those
57 Da man : I think I remember reading that those 4 aircraft were converted to ER standard from regular 767-223 and such are a bit heavier than the new-build ER
58 Sflaflight : But you don't agree to disagree. You are constantly arguing with MAH4546 that Boston is the winner over Miami, even after he presents his opinion, al
59 B752OS : For starters, we are called Bostonians; not Bostonites. Second, thank you for sharing YOUR experiences and opinions about Boston and Miami. I don't b
60 MAH4546 : South Florida, for the past fifty years, has been one of the largest migration points for Boston residents, if not the largest.
61 AAL0616 : Not to "stir the pot" too much here, but the main South Florida destination for folks from at least the south shore towns of Boston is Southwest Flori
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"I've GOT To Be On That Plane..." posted Tue Jan 20 2004 14:14:38 by 767Lover
AA Eagle To Start RIC-MIA posted Thu Dec 4 2003 17:39:43 by PVD757
AA Routes To Be Booted posted Thu Nov 13 2003 06:59:18 by Thrust