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Zoom ''UK'' To Open Crew-base At LGW  
User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 589 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6497 times:

Hi Guys

A friend of mine has an interview with Zoom in Jan for longhaul crew position
LGW based, flying initially UK-Canada, although the website says they hope to expand to other Int'l destinations in the very near future!

Any have any idea where??

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User currently offlineFly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1039 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6466 times:

Well Zoom-UK will most likely start out with a LGW-JFK routing. I haven't heard much of them doing the UK-Canada routings, but would be good familiarization for them.

Good luck to your friend I hope they do get it! It's a good opportunity I'd say!


User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6445 times:

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 1):
Well Zoom-UK will most likely start out with a LGW-JFK routing

Really??? That's gonna be interesting.... head to head with DL!
And of course, countless other airlines at LHR!
Seems like a likely, but perhaps, ODD choice of first route eh?


User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6100 times:

From what I understand Zoom UK plan to start low cost ops from LGW to the East coast of the States, JFK likely to be the launch route, plans for west coast SFO/LAX I think are in the pipeline although exact details appear a little thin on the ground.

Will be interesting to see how this will impact on DL's new LGW-JFK daily (double-daily from S07?) and CO's LGW-EWR services.DL may just have to grin and bare it until they can move their JFK service up the road to the 'row.

Will be nice to see a new airline get some more long hauls at LGW which suffers from being in the shadow of LHR, some O&D low cost long hauls will be welcomed and should do well.

[Edited 2006-12-28 12:30:46]

User currently offlineBY188B From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6010 times:

Can zoom fly LGW-JFK? i thought Delta had to wait and buy the rights off United before it started the LGW-JFK route in November.


next flights : BD LHR-TXL J, FR SXF-STN Y, SN BRU-LHR Y, MA LHR-BUD Y, BA BUD-LHR J, BA LCY-SNN-JFK J, BA JFK-LHR J, BA
User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5991 times:

Quoting BY188B (Reply 4):
Can zoom fly LGW-JFK? i thought Delta had to wait and buy the rights off United before it started the LGW-JFK route in November.

Good point - maybe there are exceptions what with Canada being part of the commonwealth? not really sure TBH.


User currently offlineFly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1039 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5783 times:

Even if Zoom will be a UK airline with a UK AOC?

User currently offlineBY188B From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5752 times:

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 6):
Even if Zoom will be a UK airline with a UK AOC?

im not an expert but i dont think they can. LGW and LHR Are protected under the bermuda II agreement.



next flights : BD LHR-TXL J, FR SXF-STN Y, SN BRU-LHR Y, MA LHR-BUD Y, BA BUD-LHR J, BA LCY-SNN-JFK J, BA JFK-LHR J, BA
User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 531 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

I have information from a Zoom employee stating that they are setting up a UK base to launch LGW-JFK operations starting May 2007.

As for the technicalities of how this is possible ... no idea.


User currently offlineCaaardiff From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5673 times:

What are the chances of ZoomUK taking some of the present UK-Canada routes as well, so ZoomCA can concentrate on other destinations within North/South America and maybe more into mainland Europe?
Zoom (and others - Flyglobespan) have shown that Lo-cost Long Haul can work so i wish ZoomUK every success!


User currently offlineFly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1039 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5553 times:

Quoting Caaardiff (Reply 9):
and maybe more into mainland Europe?

And you never know, with the rumour mill that HQ is on the rocks at the moment, maybe Canadian Zoom may just apply for what they've managed to do: China designation, possible rights to Australia...etc.


User currently offlineLHRGregSE4 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 10):
And you never know, with the rumour mill that HQ is on the rocks at the moment, maybe Canadian Zoom may just apply for what they've managed to do: China designation, possible rights to Australia...etc.

Canada 3000 all over again?


User currently onlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5483 times:

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 10):
And you never know, with the rumour mill that HQ is on the rocks at the moment, maybe Canadian Zoom may just apply for what they've managed to do: China designation, possible rights to Australia...etc.

With Zoom being focused on the leisure/VFR markets, I somehow couldn't see them flying to China



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User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5441 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 12):
With Zoom being focused on the leisure/VFR markets, I somehow couldn't see them flying to China

Remember they are not really a charter airline, but a hybrid of scheduled and charter/ad-hoc

Quoting AC888YOW (Reply 8):
I have information from a Zoom employee stating that they are setting up a UK base to launch LGW-JFK operations starting May 2007.

Another mate of mine has ''confirmed'' that they will start with east coast U, prob JFK/BOS/IAD, then look to expand in Autumn 07 to SFO and LAX, then adding some Caribbean and Mexican destinations, before looking to India! There are also some links, one being close to their main investor, the Bank Of Scotland, suggesting the same, on the web.


User currently offlineFly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1039 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5322 times:

Quoting LHRGregSE4 (Reply 11):
Canada 3000 all over again?

C3 all over again minus Michel Leblanc... sure hope so! :P


User currently onlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5202 times:

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 13):
Remember they are not really a charter airline, but a hybrid of scheduled and charter/ad-hoc

Which is exactly why I couldn't see them going to China which would be heavily focused on business passengers which are not Zoom's main customer base. They are focused on leisure passengers



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User currently offlineFly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1039 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5124 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 15):

Canada has a large population of mainland Chinese, many of whom are budget oriented -- not only business oriented. I'm sure flights would do well be it through a semi sched how Zoom are, or on a charter basis. A charter idea hasn't really been played around with from North America to Asia, but would be an idea. I mean Europe works? Why not Asia?


User currently offlineAustralia1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5106 times:

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 10):
possible rights to Australia...etc.

we can only hope !!!

AC service to OZ is hopeless.

If eg. u want to fly from BNE on an AC ticket, u must at this time of year, get an 0500 QF flight to SYD to connect, in other words, don't go to be as u must be at BNE dom airport by 0300-0400, so don't bother going to bed the night before !!!

AC for a time about 12 months ago or was it 2 years ago, operated SYD/YVR nonstop A343 service, which apparently was popular, but all AC services now go thru HNL middle of night. yuk !!!

Quoting LHRGregSE4 (Reply 11):
Canada 3000 all over again?

Let's hope so. YVR/HNL/BNE services with same aircraft were very popular with SE-Queenslanders (BNE), as avoided awful SYD. Flying to SYD adds about 5-7 hours to total journey & who wants to do that anymore.


What about UK/Den ?

Apparently Zoom have been carrying a lot of Uk skiers to Canada this winter & skiing in Colorado is now much cheaper than anywhere in Canada.


User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months ago) and read 4990 times:

Hey ZoomUK, since it's the season of giving, can I have LGW - MIA service again. For those of us who want service to southern England, it is better than LHR! Better yet, LGW-FLL would be much appreciated. I know, European from FLL doesn't work, but I can wish!!!

User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4870 times:

Quoting Fly2yyz (Reply 16):
Quoting Humberside (Reply 15):


Canada has a large population of mainland Chinese, many of whom are budget oriented -- not only business oriented.

I think I read that Vancouver has the second largest ethnic Chinese population in North america after San Fran. Not sure if that is true or not - but certainly there is plenty of VFR opportunity for a budget carrier between Canada and China. Its one of the reasons that Oasis Hong Kong has plans for Vancouver as a future destination.

Quoting Australia1 (Reply 17):
Apparently Zoom have been carrying a lot of Uk skiers to Canada this winter & skiing in Colorado is now much cheaper than anywhere in Canada.

And with current exchange rates the US is fantastically cheap to visit for Brits.  Smile



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User currently offlineDrgmobile From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

Does anybody know what the aircraft plans are for Zoom UK? Starting with one of the Canadian planes? I understand the 767-300 market is fairly tight at the moment.

User currently offlineAustralia1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4728 times:

Quoting Drgmobile (Reply 20):
I understand the 767-300 market is fairly tight at the moment.

They'd surely want an ER 763, not standard 763 ?


User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4713 times:

I believe you're right, although 744's have apparently been mentioned!!
Guess we will have to wait and see?


User currently offlineAustralia1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4671 times:

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 22):
744's have apparently been mentioned!!

where did u see 744's mentioned ?


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3861 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4638 times:

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 22):
I believe you're right, although 744's have apparently been mentioned!!

LGW-based... 744s... could Air Atlanta be involved? Something like the Travelcitydirect / XL 747 operations?

Only a thought...


25 LGW : I'd be amazed if Zoom UK op 744's on LGW-US routes, much more likely to be 763s.
26 Australia1 : how many aircraft are we talking ? Presume aircraft will be moved around, ie. more on Canadian routes at busy times & v.v. ???
27 Fly2YYZ : The aircraft will be a 763ER coming from Air Europa around May 2007. The aircraft will be EC-HKS / GU-KZM. Another aircraft will join the Zoom UK flee
28 Highlifeboy : Has Anyone had an Interview yet as I have one in a few weeks and just wanted to know what it was like?
29 Australia1 : Who will/is running UK operation ? or is it being run from Canada ?
30 B747-437B : Jonathan Hinkles (ex-Astraeus, Citiflyer and BWA) is the Managing Director. Not sure if he lurks around this forum, but he's definitely a PPRuNe cont
31 Australia1 : Will Zoom UK effectively be run from Zoom Canada HQ in YOW ?
32 B747-437B : Knowing Jonathan, I highly doubt he would go into any project that he didn't have complete control over. Also, FWIW, the strings at Zoom Canada are b
33 Australia1 : R u talking Bank of Scotland ?
34 Humberside : The owners of Zoom (Canada) live in Glasgow dont they?
35 Post contains links JetCaptain : http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/boyle_hugh.htm http://www.ottawabusinessjournal.com/323283300407672.php JC
36 YOW : No, he lives in Ottawa.
37 Bmi330 : Is it not two brothers that own Zoom or one owns a package holiday company and one owns the airline. Anyway one still lives hear in scotland and has i
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