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Does British Airways Have Flat Seats On 777s?  
User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9489 posts, RR: 52
Posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

What configuration on the 777 does British Airways have? What are your impressions of Club World? I've flown the Virgin Upper Class Suite and first class on UA and LH, so how does it compare?

I'm flying SEA-LHR-BLR in Business class today, and I just noticed on the British Airways website that Club World service is not offered to Bangalore India according to the Club World route map. What service do they have? The flight is supposed to be a 777.

Flight: British Airways flight 48 on a Boeing 777 Jet
Depart: Seattle/Tacoma, WA (SEA) - 6:30pm
Arrive: London Heathrow, UK (LHR) - 12:00noon

Flight: British Airways flight 119 on a Boeing 777 Jet
Depart: London Heathrow, UK (LHR) - 1:40pm
Arrive: Bangalore, India (BLR) - 4:45am


The flight from SEA to LHR is supposed to be a 777 with the full four classes of service. This is the first time I've ever flown BA in Club World as I've only flown Club Europe and World Traveller, so I'm curious to experience what they have to offer.

Thanks for your help. Any other thoughts about the flights and Club World? What type of lounge offerings can I get in LHR terminal 4? Is there enough time to enjoy them? This is one of the longest single stop itineraries that you can take, so I hope to be comfortable, but I'm also really excited.

[Edited 2006-12-24 19:38:12]


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User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

The 777 will most definately have flatbed club world. Every longhaul a/c does.

I assume the omission from the map is caused by BLR being a relatively new route, and somebody at BA's web dept being a bit slow in updating the map!


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4895 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5482 times:

Envious about your trip!

On a 777 the Club World seat is lie flat as are all Club World seats. So that is what you will have on both sectors. It's a great experience, and you will arrive well taken care of and rested. To me, it's a top-class flying experience.

In London, the lounges are excellent at T4 (there are two), and you can avail of the food, drink, showers, pressing, massage and internet facilities. I used to actually cross customs, step out (the fresh air makes a HUGE difference), use the Arrivals lounge and check-in again. I don't do that anymore as T4 security procedures are too cumbersome.

Now your 1:40 connecting time is too short to do much, so here's my .02:

1. Get off the flight briskly, and sprint to the 'Connecting Flights' area where you go through security, and head upstairs to the Departures concourse.

2. Check to see which gate your departing flight's assigned to. If it is 22 or higher, you will be be in the dreaded 'Victor Zone', an extension that take an additonal 15 minutes to get to the aircraft. This will also dictate the choice of Lounge you will use.

3. If you are at the Lounge by 1 pm latest, I would urge you to have a shower as it really refreshes you for the long trip ahead.

4. T4 has excellent shopping - I like the bookstores as you find interesting stuff that you dont get in the US market.

Enjoy your flight, and feel free to send me a message if you have any questions.

PS: If you smile nicely at BLR you may get upgraded to FIRST on the way back....

Bon Voyage!


User currently offlineTommy777 From Norway, joined May 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5481 times:

All 777s has the same Club World and you will get the same, nice, flat seat on both your flights. Enjoy!

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9489 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5391 times:

Quoting DavidT (Reply 1):
I assume the omission from the map is caused by BLR being a relatively new route, and somebody at BA's web dept being a bit slow in updating the map!

That probably could be an explanation.

One unfortunate thing is that BA does not offer first class to BLR. I would be flying in first if it was availabe, but Club World isn't bad at all.



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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5307 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 4):
One unfortunate thing is that BA does not offer first class to BLR. I would be flying in first if it was availabe, but Club World isn't bad at all.

They offer First class to Bangalore on the Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday services, and 3 class the rest of the week.


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9489 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 5225 times:

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 5):
They offer First class to Bangalore on the Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday services, and 3 class the rest of the week.

Oh. That would have been nice to know when the travel agent booked the ticket.

However Club World should be pretty nice. I'm sitting in the Seattle Airport British Airways lounge about to board the 777 to LHR and there are only 13 people in the 48 person cabin, so there will be plenty of space. Flying on Christmas Eve and Christmas day is good for international, especially between destinations that celebrate Christmas.



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User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5197 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 6):

Wish I was on that flight Big grin. Wil be nice for you


User currently offlineKanebear From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5165 times:

Hopefully you see this at some point before departing for BLR! As you're going to be in T4 on Christmas Day it may not be the zoo it normally is. When you go check in for a shower, see if they can accommodate you for a free massage. Hopefully your departure gate is near the Gate 10 lounge complex as that's where the spa/shower is. Just go in, show your boarding pass to the attendant, turn left and take the elevator all the way down.

No Concorde Room access on Club World travel, sadly. If you're a Oneworld Emerald they MIGHT just let you in though. I've gotten lucky twice when not in FIRST as an AA Execplat. Otherwise, if Emerald you'll be directed to the FIRST lounge. Not worth fooling with IMO. The Terraces lounge is airier, roomier, and much less crowded.

[Edited 2006-12-25 04:22:39]

[Edited 2006-12-25 04:23:32]

User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5078 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 6):
However Club World should be pretty nice. I'm sitting in the Seattle Airport British Airways lounge about to board the 777 to LHR and there are only 13 people in the 48 person cabin, so there will be plenty of space. Flying on Christmas Eve and Christmas day is good for international, especially between destinations that celebrate Christmas.

It's a very nice lounge isnt it?

I'm curious - did you get Christmas Dinner on the plane? Big grin


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24906 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5069 times:

I thought SEA-LHR was a 744 route?


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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5058 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 10):
I thought SEA-LHR was a 744 route?

It's currently a 10x 777, but the daily 049/048 flight goes to a B747-400 in the new year. BA053/052 will remain a B777-200 at 3x weekly, with the Wednesday flight being operated by a 3-class configurated aircraft (YMMA-F)


User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5041 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 4):
One unfortunate thing is that BA does not offer first class to BLR. I would be flying in first if it was availabe, but Club World isn't bad at all.



Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 5):
They offer First class to Bangalore on the Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday services, and 3 class the rest of the week.

I thought BA's non-First Class 777s were only based at Gatwick to operate the more 'leisure' type routes?

Which other routes does BA operate to without First Class from Heathrow?


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5017 times:

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 12):
I thought BA's non-First Class 777s were only based at Gatwick to operate the more 'leisure' type routes?

G-VIIO,VIIP,VIIR and VIIT are based at Gatwick and operate to Orlando, Antigua & St Lucia/Tobago/Grenada, Tampa, Kingston and Atlanta (3 of 7 weekly). G-YMMA,B,C,D,E and F are based at Heathrow, and have no First.

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 12):

Which other routes does BA operate to without First Class from Heathrow?

Currently,

Denver
Montreal
Kolkata
Dhaka
Chennai
Harare (1 of 3 weekly)
Bangalore (3 of 7 weekly)
Seattle (1 of 10 weekly)
Beijing (2 of 6 weekly)
Newark (2 of 20 weekly)
Chicago (1 of 20 weekly)


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9489 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5007 times:

Quoting Kanebear (Reply 8):
Hopefully you see this at some point before departing for BLR! As you're going to be in T4 on Christmas Day it may not be the zoo it normally is. When you go check in for a shower, see if they can accommodate you for a free massage. Hopefully your departure gate is near the Gate 10 lounge complex as that's where the spa/shower is. Just go in, show your boarding pass to the attendant, turn left and take the elevator all the way down.

I'm in the Terraces lounge right now in LHR. Unfortunately there is no time for a massage. My connection is not long enough, but there is time to squeeze in a shower. Only the gate 10 lounge is open today. For some reason they decided to close the other lounge because it is Christmas day. So it is really crowded in here. I can barely get a seat. My opinion of Heathrow is not that good, but it is a single stop connection and worth it.

Quoting Kanebear (Reply 8):
The Terraces lounge is airier, roomier, and much less crowded.

The terraces lounge seems very inadequate. I expected much more. There is plenty of food, but it is not very relaxing and is too crowded.

Quoting DavidT (Reply 9):
I'm curious - did you get Christmas Dinner on the plane?

They did serve Christmas dinner on the SEA-LHR flight, although I opted for pasta as I really am not a fan of Christmas dinner and am not one to really celebrate the holiday anyway. They replaced the chicken main course with turkey. The dessert was something Christmas dinner related. It tasted fine, but I didn't know what it was. I asked the flight attendant and he said something, but I didn't really understand.



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User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4999 times:

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 13):
G-VIIO,VIIP,VIIR and VIIT are based at Gatwick and operate to Orlando, Antigua & St Lucia/Tobago/Grenada, Tampa, Kingston and Atlanta (3 of 7 weekly).

Wow, only four? I could have sworn when I was at LGW earlier this year I saw more than 4 BA 777s.


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4993 times:

Quoting DavidT (Reply 15):
Wow, only four? I could have sworn when I was at LGW earlier this year I saw more than 4 BA 777s

They have seven 4-class 777's based there aswell as the four 3-class aircraft.


User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

Ah, that would explain why then! Thanks.

User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4856 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 14):
The terraces lounge seems very inadequate. I expected much more. There is plenty of food, but it is not very relaxing and is too crowded.

I think Kanebear actually meant the Terraces at Gate 1, now called simply the "Gate 1 Lounge". The Terraces at Gate 10, called the "Terraces" is much smaller than the Gate 1 lounge.

Gate 1 lounge was closed today due to the reduced number of longhaul flights and minimal shorthaul schedule from Terminal 4.


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9489 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4794 times:

I happily made it to BLR and there was club world seats. I'll write a full trip report when I get some time. Seats were great. Crew was great. Food wasn't. I couldn't believe that they served a stale cheese sandwich wrapped in plastic for breakfast. That was ridiculous.

Quoting LHR777 (Reply 18):
Gate 1 lounge was closed today due to the reduced number of longhaul flights and minimal shorthaul schedule from Terminal 4.

I guess it is good to cut down on the number of staff necessary on Christmas day, but the terraces at gate 10 was overly crowded and not very relaxing at all. My impression of terminal 4 is pretty bad. There was a severe lack of windows and anything other than duty free stores.



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User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4725 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 19):
I couldn't believe that they served a stale cheese sandwich wrapped in plastic for breakfast. That was ridiculous.

Are you sure it was stale? Perhaps it could have been some weird. tough English cheese Big grin (also did they not offer a choce? normally don't they have a choice of sandwiches? how was your main meal?)


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4895 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4644 times:

Quoting DavidT (Reply 20):
re you sure it was stale? Perhaps it could have been some weird. tough English cheese Big grin (also did they not offer a choce? normally don't they have a choice of sandwiches?

I've had that very same sandwich! It's what replaced those nice reception sandwiches you used to get. In comes wrapped in cellophane, about which much has been written in these forums. It's basically a sandwich from Pret-a-Manger.

You're right, it's made from a fancy English cheese, but at 3 am in the morning, hard to swallow. A breakfast service would make more sense at that time.


User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4629 times:

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 12):
Which other routes does BA operate to without First Class from Heathrow?

All there long haul 767s dont have FIRST but they have club world and Y plus and Y.

Also i hear that the 767s are not getting the new club world seats! Do BA expect to have replaced these aircraft soon???


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9489 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

Quoting Comorin (Reply 21):
You're right, it's made from a fancy English cheese, but at 3 am in the morning, hard to swallow. A breakfast service would make more sense at that time.

Dry stale bread wrapped in plastic does not signify Club World to me even if it has the nicest cheese.



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User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4895 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 20 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 23):
Dry stale bread wrapped in plastic does not signify Club World to me even if it has the nicest cheese.

Well, now you can enjoy piping hot masala omelets, idlies, dosas and real coffee in BLR for a while! Not to mention the spicy veg and chicken patties, yum!

Have a good time.


25 8herveg : Are they with the 777 or 767 though?
26 Planesarecool : 777 (G-YMMA/B/C/D/E/F)
27 ANother : Ha, the lounges at T4 (Concorde, First and Terraces) are a discrace. Always crowded, run down, and crappy food. Although they tried to tart up the on
28 8herveg : I thought Bangalore was served 5 x weekly?
29 Planesarecool : It's been daily since October.
30 BlrBird : How is this route generally doing? Is this due aircraft rotation or market cannot support daily 4class service?
31 Trekster : 2 thank you, not 10 The 767's have literally just been finished being upgraded to the current club world product, so will not be getting the new prod
32 RoseFlyer : Well I thought I would revive this thread in a form of complaint. I'm sitting in the Terraces lounge in LHR again. This time it is because my flight t
33 Wrighbrothers : Wow, I flew BACK SEA-LHR today in F, the 777 landed about 2 hours late because it arrived at SEA 2 hours late, and that was because of bad weather (a
34 Wrighbrothers : Wow, I flew BACK SEA-LHR today in F, the 777 landed about 2 hours late because it arrived at SEA 2 hours late, and that was because of bad weather (a
35 Post contains images LHR777 : I'm guessing you're still in London, due to BA49 night-stopping, due to mechanical, then crew going out of hours. Well, if you're in F/J you're at th
36 TristarSteve : For info the only aircraft with the new AVOD today are NWR NWS NWT NWC and NLC. In January the following will be fitted IVS NLK IVX.
37 RoseFlyer : Very true. I spent the night in the T4 Hilton. Not a bad hotel. I get to say that I spent New Years in London. But yes it is back to the Terraces lou
38 Planesarecool : There's 3 different IFE systems on BA's long haul now. A select few of the 777's have the older Marconni system, with much smaller screens and only 1
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