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JetBlue Plane On Ground, Being Evacuated  
User currently offlineStlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 26
Posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14842 times:

Just saw a quick blurb of the plane on the monitor in the newsroom. Passengers are being evacuated (slowly and orderly), bags are being unloaded, and workers are looking at one of the engines.

I might be able to post more as it becomes available, but I have to make promo's starting at 3, so someone else chime in if they get to it before I do.


if assumptions could fly, airliners.net would be the world's busiest airport
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User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14828 times:

Bird Strike.

*filler*

*garbledy gook*


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12179 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14776 times:

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 1):
Bird Strike

At what airport? Was it an A-320 series or an E-170/-190? If the pax are evacuating, orderly or otherwise, was this an aboarted TO? That would be the only bird strike case I can think of for an evac. Otherwise just taxi to the gate and off load normally.

No injuries, I hope.


User currently offlineORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14759 times:

Bird strikes are obviously very dangerous but it sounds like B6 has it well in hand.

User currently offlineWMUPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14766 times:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...a/northern_california/16321708.htm

Hit some birds on takeoff on it's way to OAK.



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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14664 times:

Were they actually "evacuated", or just offloaded normally? I've experienced a bird strike, and we just turned around, landed, taxied in, sat infront of the gate for a few minutes, and then we just deplaned normally.


CanadianNorth



What could possibly go wrong?
User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3015 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14555 times:

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 5):
Were they actually "evacuated", or just offloaded normally?

Yeah, I wanted to find out too. Reading the article, it just seems they were orderly taken off the plane via stairs as they do usually in LGB.

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 14515 times:

Quoting Stlgph (Thread starter):

What airport?



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3015 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 14385 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
What airport?

Article says LGB.

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 14317 times:

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 8):

Thanks, sir.



A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
User currently offlineAkjetBlue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 14272 times:

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 5):
Were they actually "evacuated", or just offloaded normally? I've experienced a bird strike, and we just turned around, landed, taxied in, sat infront of the gate for a few minutes, and then we just deplaned normally.


CanadianNorth

It's usually called an "Air Return" - if MX finds that the strike is not within limits then they'll swap it out.LGB normally has a spare aircraft to recover situations like these. Passengers will deplane the aircraft, not evacuate in this type of instance.

love the media.



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User currently offlineWMUPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 14272 times:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/J...4/history/20061226/1857Z/KLGB/KOAK

Looks like the replacement flight just tookoff headed for OAK.



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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 14206 times:

Quoting AkjetBlue (Reply 10):
Passengers will deplane the aircraft, not evacuate in this type of instance.

Thanks, so I would imagine it was much the same as my experience in 2004, when we basically just went back to the gate, grabbed our stuff and walked off the same as one would get off any other flight.



CanadianNorth



What could possibly go wrong?
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13845 times:

Quoting AkjetBlue (Reply 10):
It's usually called an "Air Return" - if MX finds that the strike is not within limits then they'll swap it out.LGB normally has a spare aircraft to recover situations like these. Passengers will deplane the aircraft, not evacuate in this type of instance.

love the media.

Just a flight that didn't end routinely at the originally planned destination--no fireball, no TV movie of the week.

Nothing to see here folks; move along...  Wink


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 13087 times:

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 6):
Yeah, I wanted to find out too. Reading the article, it just seems they were orderly taken off the plane via stairs as they do usually in LGB.

Yep. Everyone in the video was coming off in a nice orderly fashion. The feed was from an air traffic helicopter that hovered over the area for a few minutes.

Sorry I couldn't get back to updating this earlier, I had to cut action for the 5 p.m. news.



if assumptions could fly, airliners.net would be the world's busiest airport
User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2109 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12986 times:

When does a disembarkation become an evacuation?
When does a murder become an assassination?

I would think use of the slide indicates evacuation. No slide, no evacuation.

As far as assassination is concerned, how important do you have to be? I would not want to be murdered, but assassination has a nice ring to it.  Wink



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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12783 times:

Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 15):
I would think use of the slide indicates evacuation. No slide, no evacuation.

I was thinking something along the lines of:

Deplane = get up, grab your stuff when there's room and walk off normally
Evacuate = crew has everyone get out as fast as possible (which would often involve slides etc.)


CanadianNorth



What could possibly go wrong?
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12711 times:

Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 15):



Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 16):

3. something evacuated or discharged.
4. the removal of persons or things from an endangered area



if assumptions could fly, airliners.net would be the world's busiest airport
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12576 times:

Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 15):
I would think use of the slide indicates evacuation. No slide, no evacuation.

I'd readily agree that your interp and context are correct...

That said, remember the old adage, "Sell the sizzle, not the steak." Precisely why the correctly-termed but "boring-sounding" cockpit voice recorders (CVRs) and flight data recorder (FDRs; DFDRs these days), are replaced by the jazzier term "black boxes." Turning Korean flight #7 (the 747 shootdown by the Rooskies back in the early 1980s) into "Korean Double-Oh-Seven" was another example.


User currently offlineBaron52ta From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12469 times:

An evacuation usually involves pax being deplaned without their belongings,(slide are only used if the situation merits it ie.fire or so on) where the plane sits, whereas disembarkation would be at a gate.

User currently offlineMiami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12372 times:

Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 15):
I would think use of the slide indicates evacuation. No slide, no evacuation.

Some airlines have different levels of evacuations. There could be a 'precautionary evacuation' (after say an APU fire or fuel spill) via one or two doors on the opposite side of the aircraft using stairs. These types of situations are still an evacuation in the everyone would leave luggage behind and move to the exits relatively quickly.

At any stage this could be upgraded into a full blown evacuation where all other available (and safe) exits are opened and rapid egress of passengers begins. FAs at a door with stairs would then have passengers at this door moving alot quicker using different commands.

The above applicable for my airline anyway. (The situation at LGB today was obviously not as dramatic or critical. I just wanted to point out that an 'evacuation' can sometimes mean stairs are used at one or more doors and possibly slides at others.)


User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11362 times:

The press once again blows another out of proportion. Maybe the press needs some A/Netters on their staff.


i can see for 80 miles
User currently offlinePeh From Australia, joined Nov 2006, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9937 times:

Quoting Miami1 (Reply 20):

I'm with Miami1. Slides or no slides, leaving bags behind suggests urgency so it would have to fall into the definition of evacuation. I mean, you don't leave bags behind when deplaning (at least, not intentionally).



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3015 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9098 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 9):
Thanks, sir.

No Problemo!  Smile

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7731 times:

Quoting Stlgph (Thread starter):
but I have to make promo's starting at 3



Quoting STLGph (Reply 14):
Sorry I couldn't get back to updating this earlier, I had to cut action for the 5 p.m. news

We are all V E R Y impressed.  Yeah sure


25 WMUPilot : No they don't because every story would turn in to airbus v. boeing, everybody else's opinion would be flat wrong (except for the reporters), and jet
26 Asteriskceo : My heart goes out to the bird and it's family[Edited 2006-12-27 14:09:12]
27 Richierich : This is something we have all known for a long long time. We also need a.netters on the staff of every Hollywood (& Dollywood/Bollywood) production,
28 B777ER : Yes, another sad day for the aviation world (isn't this the required line?)...how regrettable. I imagine the NTSB and the bird watcher society of Ame
29 STLGph : and i'm glad that you are, especially you. last time I posted something on here about a plane having some difficulties...I got lamblasted (by you) be
30 Post contains images KangarooMAN : Nice one Asteriskceo thanks for giving me a good laugh one of the funniest things i've read on here for a while!!! And for that welcome to my RU list
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