Zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5131 posts, RR: 13 Posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10975 times:
This is a first for me, 179 mph. headwinds. Our flight 679 (FL) HPN to MCO took 4 hours due to these headwinds. The captain said this is the strongest headwinds he's encountered. Rarley are they stronger. And, Winter and Daytime seems to be the time for them.
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 26 Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 10789 times:
That is freaking incredible....I don't think I have ever heard of, or encountered a headwind that fast.
I just checked the weather, assuming this was today (26/12/06), it was very visible on the weather maps, a center of high pressure over Texas, and a low over the Maritimes, with the millibar lines very-very close together indicating some zippy upper level winds!!
I hope this is not breaking a copyright, but this is a weather channel map to explain:
*Note: This image might automatically update so it might not be valid after today...
Pilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1380 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10633 times:
I once had just over 200mph tailwinds on an EI A330 flight from BOS to SNN, one of the biggest the pilot had ever encountered as well. We reached SNN in something like 4hrs 20mins (I can't remember the exact number) but I know it was only about 20mins-30mins outside of the all time record!
And this Feb we had +100mph headwinds from EWR to LAS, our flight time on that trip was 6.5hrs!
Flyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10340 times:
were on you flight 679 then? checking their page, gate to gate time shows less than 4 hours, so airtime on flightaware shows 3:02. compared to past southbound flights, this flight did take about 20-50 minutes longer than past AirTran 679, but looking on the northbound flights, it doesn't look like they were able to make up much time on the return flights, return flight only ran about 20 minutes less than before.
when we see winds like this effecting flights east to west and vice versa, flights flying westbound that take an average hour longer give or take, when the a/c returns back eastbound the airline sometimes makes up quite a bit of time. I was watching this last year when everybody kept talking about the JetBlue BUR flights and how winds effect BUR takeoff. Everybody always thought that only the eastbound flights on JetBlue out of BUR would ever be effected, especially when the Santa Ana winds were prevelant, but as found quite often, with the wrong jetstream, a lot of their westbound flights out of JFK, and not just limited to BUR, but to most west coast cities, were weight restricted and thus made fuel diversions. Most often the DEN/SLC flights were exempt, but all other cities faced this crisis when the jetstream dropped and headwinds were extreme. I remember some of the BUR flights were flying far north skimming the Canadian border until Montana or so and then dropping down over Idaho and Utah to try to avoid hitting the winds
Flyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10323 times:
also, while on the subject of AirTran, looking to the evening of the 25th, can anybody look up 770 that operates the night flight from LAS. On flightaware, look far the flight was into operation and then diverts to DEN, but looking at the flightpath, it was almost directly over ABQ and then makes a 90 degree left turn and heads up to DEN. I would think if a medical diversion it'd drop down into ABQ, but it heads up north to DEN. Was this to help with the stranded pax from the past week's weather, because I'd think they'd pick a more direct route to DEN from the start. Just something interesting
VEEREF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10119 times:
While very common when travelling east to west, direct headwinds of that speed from north to south are rare along the east coast.
Most I've seen across the North Atlantic was 213kt on the nose. And that was up above 60N to stay out of the main jetstream core.
Our FRA-CHS trip was almost 11 hours as a result.
PanAmOldDC8 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 960 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7891 times:
Quoting Stirling (Reply 12): Check out this link for some neat wind speed maps (animated)
Anything in the yellow is over 150mph....Lot of yellows and orange moving up the Eastern Seaboard for the next few days.
We are having ground winds of 100 KPH at the moment here in Hamilton, Ont, the building is shaking and the winds are out of the West, so I can imagine what they are higher up
PILOTALLEN From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 656 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7389 times:
yeah we were flying from KBED-KBZN yesterday and we hi someting like 180 on the nose near buffalo NY......the most i've seen was 212 lucikly it was a cross wind and it was down near dallas tx...earlier this year...thats insane since usually the jetstream is further north during the summer....crazy stuff
FlyLKU From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 761 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4592 times:
I had 52 knots on the nose at 10000 over Lake Michigan. I only mention it because in a Piper Archer you want to spend as little time over the lake as possible and it cause the flight to last nearly two hours instead of one.
Had 190 on the nose to LAX once and 200 on the way to OKC this spring. Smooth as glass on both flights.
Turbulence From Spain, joined Nov 1999, 963 posts, RR: 22 Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4299 times:
Back in the time OA was serving triangular routes ATH-MAD-BCN-ATH or ATH-BCN-MAD-ATH I used to fly my way between BCN and ATH via MAD just for the sake of it... Back home to BCN, the ATH-MAD sector used to be 3 hours on the air, from Vr to thrust reversers. One day it took us 4h10m to reach to MAD. Not taking into consideration climb and descent procedures, the B734 cruising speed of 813 kms/h gives a distance of 2439 kms. Assuming this distance flown in 4h10min instead, (it makes 4.16 hours taken into decimal) gives a ground speed of 586,3 kms/h. Then, 813-586,3=226,7 kms/h headwind meaning roughly 141.62 mph, quite a bit, considering it was above the Mediterranean.
Not far ago, last september, a friend of mine was flying BCN-EWR on CO. After crew had loaded the flight plan they asked for an extra refuelling, lost their slot and departed almost one hour and a half late. The reason? The headwinds they were about to find overflying the atlantic coast of the Iberian peninsula were... 180kt. And, no, it is not a mistake: I DID NOT WRITE 180MPH; I wrote 180kt. It makes some 207MPH