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Is There An Alternative To Boeing Connexxions?  
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3029 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

I understand Boeing is discontinuing its "In Air Internet Service" a handful of airlines have decided to install over the years.

I appreciate the service was not exactly a huge success, but do any other airlines offer an internet service that you can use while flying?

[Edited 2006-12-28 00:56:34]

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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31012 posts, RR: 86
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3402 times:
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Panasonic is rumored to have a system in development that can use the Connexion hardware (with a new control module, I believe), which would make retrofitting relatively inexpensive.

User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3380 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
Panasonic is rumored to have a system in development that can use the Connexion hardware (with a new control module, I believe), which would make retrofitting relatively inexpensive.

If this works out, it will make LH very happy!

Tony

[Edited 2006-12-28 00:50:26]


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User currently offlineBoomBoom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3346 times:

Quote:
Panasonic Avionics Corp., based in Bothell, in Boeing's commercial jetliner backyard, could soon pick up the Internet-in-the-sky baton that Boeing dropped with Connexion.

The company hopes by mid-December to have secured airline commitments to equip up to 500 jetliners with a satellite-based Internet service that will be better and cheaper than Connexion. Some of Boeing's Connexion customers are among those interested.

Panasonic Avionics and its partners have developed better equipment than the older Connexion system. The antenna that fits on top of the jet is smaller and lighter than Boeing's and eventually will be available in different sizes to accommodate smaller single-aisle jets and not just the bigger widebody planes.

The antenna produces much less drag on a plane than Boeing's, Bruner said.

Panasonic Avionics would have a much different business strategy than Boeing. It would sell the necessary equipment to an airline, whereas Boeing owned the Connexion hardware.

Bruner said Panasonic Avionics wants to have commitments from 12 to 15 airlines for about 500 planes before it decides to go forward. So far, it has commitments from about six airlines and 250 planes. But some of those commitments are from U.S. airlines.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/293252_air22.html


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4106 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3274 times:

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 3):
But some of those commitments are from U.S. airlines.

hmm...wonder who? I'd guess UA was one, weren't they looking into internet access?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31012 posts, RR: 86
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3262 times:
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Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 4):
hmm...wonder who? I'd guess UA was one, weren't they looking into internet access?

Yes UA has received FAA certification to install and operate a wireless internet access system on their p.s. 757s.


User currently offlineGBan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

Yesterday I started a thread with a question on another proposed replacement - Aircell:

Does This Wireless Service Make Sense? (by GBan Dec 27 2006 in Civil Aviation)

I doubt it will be successfull since apparently it will not be satellite based and will only work in areas with GSM 3G coverage:

http://www.aircell.com/markets/mkt_passengers.php


User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 21 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

Hope they go ahead with it. A trans-pacific flight with no internet can be pretty long. Boeing connexion works great for KE and OZ, I was surprised Boeing decided to discontinue it.

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31012 posts, RR: 86
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 14 hours ago) and read 3066 times:
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Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 7):
I was surprised Boeing decided to discontinue it.

Boeing expected the US majors to order it by the hundreds of frames as at the time, the "Tech Boom" was going strong and Boeing hoped folks tooling across the US in narrowbodies would want to stay in touch with "the home office" to finalize those billion dollar deals.

When the Tech Boom went *BOOM* and 9/11 plus SARS chilled business travel, the US airlines all bailed on their commitments to install it, which ripped the guts out of Boeing's forecasts and made the entire program unprofitable to operate for the foreseeable future.


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