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If BA Buy The A380 How Many Seats?  
User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3648 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

Bearing in mind that many of BA's 747's seat only 291 passengers, if they take the A380 are we looking at less than 400 seats ?

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21560 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

It would depend, because BA has so many 744s, they had to configure them more than one way to serve different markets.

If they replace their entire 744 fleet with A380s, expect to see two subfleets, but if they buy A380s and 748s and 77Ws, for example, you may see only one configuration of each.

But with BA's 291 seat 744 in mind, which has a very large J class, expect only 400 seats in their A380, which is 35% bigger. But the thing is, can BA just proportionally increase the J and F classes by 35% on those routes? Likely not, so that would mean the Y section would grow more than the J section, and the F section likely wouldn't grow at all. Y+ would also likely get a bit bigger, so with that in mind, 430 seats is more likely.

On their denser configurations, you truly can't expect BA to increase the premium seat count too much, otherwise they would fly a more premium 744 to that city. Thus there, the A380 would mostly get larger in Y and Y+, and 500 seats could be a reasonable bet.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31219 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3821 times:
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Quoting Bongodog1964 (Thread starter):
Bearing in mind that many of BA's 747's seat only 291 passengers, if they take the A380 are we looking at less than 400 seats?

I'd hazard a guess around 475-500 seats...


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7678 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3649 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
On their denser configurations, you truly can't expect BA to increase the premium seat count too much, otherwise they would fly a more premium 744 to that city.

They will soon be flying 'a more premium 744' to all cities currently served by their 360 passenger 'Lo-J' 744s. These aircraft are currently fitted with 38 'J' flat-bed seats. But when they are fitted with the recently launched wider seat the number of 'J' seats on these aircraft will be increased to 55.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
But with BA's 291 seat 744 in mind, which has a very large J class, expect only 400 seats in their A380, which is 35% bigger. But the thing is, can BA just proportionally increase the J and F classes by 35% on those routes?

As they are increasing the number of J Class seats on their 'Lo J' 744s from 38 to 55 or by almost 45 per cent, I would think that an increase of 35 per cent of J (but not F) class seats on their 'Hi J' aircraft is not beyond the realms of possibility.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21560 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 3):
As they are increasing the number of J Class seats on their 'Lo J' 744s from 38 to 55 or by almost 45 per cent, I would think that an increase of 35 per cent of J (but not F) class seats on their 'Hi J' aircraft is not beyond the realms of possibility.

We'll just have to see. Even only increasing J, that's still 94J seats and 14F seats, or 108 premium seats on these routes. Add to that 40 Y+ seats, and that's a lot of non-Y to fill without diluting prices...

Now maybe they can fly 3 A380s instead of 4 744s, but the number of routes that BA flies 4 744s a day is not a high number...



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