Jiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5415 times:
The latest from Taipei, SQ 006 (B744) depart from Taipei to Los Angeles, explodes after take-off from Taipei and caught fire. More details will be release in the future.
Source from UDNNEWS.com ot Taiwan. (report is also available in English)
AA@DFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 397 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4341 times:
CNN is just breaking the story... they are in a commercial right now, but are just breaking the story.
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 15 Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4188 times:
CNN and MSNBC.com have reported it as Breaking News.
AA@DFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 397 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4134 times:
CNN is saying that the flight was going from TPE to LAX. Departing Tuesday night (TPE time). They also mentioned that weather could be a factor. Any one else have details?
Mountainridge From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 90 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4096 times:
They are just getting to it on CNN. MSNBC hasn't broke the story yet.
Nick
AA@DFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 397 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4087 times:
CNN now reporting that the SQ 744 took off at 11:18 local time, witnesses said that it could have been windshear as it fell back down to the runway, slammed into a China Airlines jet on the ground, it then exploded on the runway. Footage should be available at CNN soon. They believe that the windshear could have been related to the typhoon that is just off the coast... wind and rain fall was significant at the airport. More later.
Skybutt From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4050 times:
Some more news~~
THe SQ flt006 was carrying about 130 passengers and 20 crews to LAX, and the CI a/c was empty, injuries were not yet reported~
ANd China Airlines in HKG rejected the news of being involved in a accident in TPE...maybe they haven't go tthe news yet~~!
ILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4028 times:
AKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2101 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4010 times:
Looks like the weather played a part:
TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) -- A Singapore Airlines jetliner bound for Los Angeles crashed Tuesday night after taking off in a storm, a Taiwanese official said. It was not immediately known how many people were on board.
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From the Kyoto news service:
TAIPEI, Nov. 1 (Oct. 31) - A Singapore Airlines jet bound for Los Angeles crashed shortly after takeoff from Taipei international airport Tuesday night and was engulfed in flames, Taiwan television report said.
The jet, which was carrying about 180 crew members and passengers, reportedly crashed at 11:18 p.m.
ILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8 Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4003 times:
Jabpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 423 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3978 times:
Wasn't the Egypt Air crash 1 year ago to the day? Jeff
ILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3951 times:
Sorry for the re-post.
Does anyone know if there are any casulties (sp?)?
I wonder why they were taking off during a typhoon!
Jiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3965 times:
The fire that caught SIA B744 died down. 159 Passengers and 20 crews on board SQ 006 were sent to the near by hospital.
The jet take-offs during the typhoon "XiangSang" (means elephant in Thai) approcahing Taiwan, packing wind gusts up to 160kph. flights from Kaohsiung all suspended. So this accident may be due to the wind factor and made the 744 out of control and hit one of the China Airlines jet.
AA@DFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 397 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3943 times:
God Bless the Passengers and Crew of both airplanes.
ILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3886 times:
So... the pax and crew are alive, and are now in the hospital? Just clarifying
26 Frozensun: Oh my god what is going on... please help those on my board... shit i am so worried my fingers are cold and i'm crying oh shit no...
27 Jaysit: HkgSpotter: How the hell did you know this would happen to SQ some day? What are you? A soothsayer? An aviation safety expert? A qualified 747-400 pil
29 AA@DFW: Does anyone have confirmation on the status of the China Airlines aircraft? Did it have pax? Is the crew of that aircraft alive?
30 PT-BRA: It crashed on top of a china airlines cargo plane that was on the ground
31 Airbus A3XX: Just saw the video clip on Calbe TV HK and the SIA plane is blue in colour. I tihnk that maybe one of the 747-400s in 'Tropical Megatop' scheme
32 Jiml1126: 2nd B744 crash... All 159 passengers nd 20 crews were sent to the hospital immediately. Further, because the typhoon is still in Southern Taiwan, as a
34 Airsicknessbag: Jiml1126, where can I get that UDNNews page in English? BTW, 3rd 744 crash, not 2nd.
35 AA@DFW: Jiml1126: So, are you saying that there are no casualties? You say that they were all taken to a nearby hospital. What do u know? Have all pax/crew be
36 DTWA320: I'm seeing airliners.net photo's on FOX NEWS.
37 Skybutt: No passengers were on board the CI plane. CNN confirmed 179 on board. I believe its the Tropical rainbow as shown on tv.
38 Flashmeister: MSNBC is reporting 179 souls on board, no report of survivors or injuries sustained. This appears to be related to a typhoon in the area, they are say
40 AA@DFW: 18 survivors at the hospital now. Now, they are saying that there was no 2nd airplane (i.e., no China Airlines plane)
41 Jiml1126: i cehceked udnnews.com, but the english story hasn't com out yet. all the latest were in chinese. passenger on SQ 006 said that they felt the jet was
43 747-fan: This is shocking!! And damn scary I just hope as many survivors as possible! What kind of wind will blow down a jumbo!
44 Airbus A3XX: I saw no other plane in the video from TVBS Taiwan but the airport official in Taiwan said that the plane crashed onto the ground, hit the CI plane th
45 Sia jubilee: I want to find out who decide to take off. Taipei is now blow 25-59 knots northern wind (020 degree). This is a typhoon near there. If the captain dec
46 Hkgspotter1: I've just seen some very poor video on the TV. Could not even say what part of the plane they are showing!!!. I can say that the weather was terrible,
47 AKelley728: Jabpilot: Yes, October 31, 1999 was the day that the EgyptAir plane crashed. I also just realized that on October 31, 1994 was the day that the Americ
48 Airsicknessbag: It might already have been Nov 1 in Taiwan?
49 Agrodemm: Reported by MSNBC: (just now: 11.46 am EST) No reports about the type of the China Airways airliner. No solid info about surviviors, or whether people
50 Na: So sad... CNN website shows a picture of a wrecked blue plane, so its one of the two Tropical Megatop 744s... All 3 744s lost now fell victim to sever
51 AF-A319: Here is the latest picture. what a sad day...
52 Airbus A3XX: The crash time was 23:18 on 31-OCT-2000 in Taiwan and HKG
53 Gordonroxburgh: This is only the second accident involving a 747-400, the other being the China Airlines 747 that crashed at Hong Kong-Kai Tak in 1993 G.
54 Jiml1126: There are now at least 18 survivors that were sent to hospital.
55 Gordonroxburgh: This is only the second accident involving a 747-400, the other being the China Airlines 747 that crashed at Hong Kong-Kai Tak in 1993 G.
56 D L X: They are now reporting everyone survived (so far). CNN has pictures, and it does look like the special livery plane. I would point out that the MSNBS
57 Agrodemm: Unconfirmed news from AP state that 120 people were taken into hospitals. Hope that everybody made it through that accident.
58 Flashmeister: A SQ rep on CNN just reported that there were zero fatalities reported and that injuries were not life threatening. Certainly, this is great news!!
59 OH-LGA: CNN reports that Singapore says that all 178 people on board the plane did survive. Only 30 injuries according to SQ. But the plane in the Tropical Me
60 Waggingtail: according to singapore airways spokesperson on CNN at noon NO fatalities... 30 non life threatening injuries... referred to by SQ as an "aborted takeo
62 Agrodemm: Just reported... Only about 30 injured, and no fatalities. Good news are coming and I hope that they will still be coming
63 F.pier: This is a horrible day. God bless all the passengers and the crew of that airliner.
64 AA@DFW: What is going on??????? Now one of the survivors is on the phone with CNN saying that it was horrible -- said that there were LOTS OF FATALITIES. He s
65 F.pier: I can read that there are no fatalities on an italian news site. I'm really happy 4 this beautiful news.
66 Agrodemm: Unfortunately it is reported that 6 of the 30 injured are in critical condition.
67 F.pier: I can read that there are no fatalities on an italian news site. I'm really happy 4 this beautiful news.
68 SegmentKing: windsheer can cause any plane to crash... Delta L1011 from FLL to DFW crashed on approach due to windsheer Eastern lost 727 at JFK due to windsheer Pa
69 åviatioÑ_lover: There are 120 souvivers on that fateful flight.
70 AA@DFW: Are you people watching CNN?????? Can you believe what the passengers are saying? They are saying that it was a horrible crash... the tail section of
72 Kaitak: I was just looking at the JPV site and a snippet on the homepage (i.e. not the News page, which isn't up yet) had a quote from a Taiwanese minister sa
73 Waggingtail: survivors claim that there ARE fatalities... SQ should revise their statement immediately.... out of compassion
74 Kaitak: I was just looking at the JPV site and a snippet on the homepage (i.e. not the News page, which isn't up yet) had a quote from a Taiwanese minister sa
75 Waggingtail: survivors claim that there ARE fatalities... SQ should revise their statement immediately.... out of compassion
76 RyeFly: MSNBC was reporting 30 injured and no deaths and 161 passengers on board
77 AA@DFW: That is wrong of Singapore Airlines to come out with a spokesman and say on INTERNATIONAL TELEVISION that there are no survivors...... when the incide
78 F-WWKH: We can all watch TV. Would suggest to remain silent instead of posting useless information again and again...
79 Frequence plus: CNN just had passengers that were on the flight reporting that here were definitely fatalities. God bless all on board.
80 Joge: SIA was some time ago (as I remember) selected to be one of the best airlines in the World. What's the future after this kind of accident? -Joge
81 RyeFly: I don't understand why they would take off in those conditions. Can anynoe confirm what kind of plane the China airlines cargo plane was. By looking a
82 Bruce: Wait a sec......first they say the plane slammed down on the runway, then they say it hit another plane, now they say there was an EXPLOSION. How can
83 Skybutt: I wonder what the pilots were saying in the cockpit~? But they wouldn't open the blackbox to thepublic, t\right? Skybutt
84 Hkdragon2: Isn't it time we took this irresponsible topic off? The plane crashed, it didn't explode... HKGSpotter: Your comments about "knowing this would happen
85 Skybutt: Bruce, coz it slammed on the ground after the windshear~ thats why Skybutt
86 Frozensun: abc news just said there were no KNOWN fatalities. cnn reported survivors and ospital staff saying there was one.
87 Hkgspotter1: China Airlines have just received 3 747-400 Freighters, B-18701, 2 and 3. I hope its not one of these !!! The weather at the time looks very, very bad
88 åviatioÑ_lover: is http://www.singaporeair.com/ jammed?
89 Flashmeister: Latest word from MSNBC is that there are over 90 people "missing" - certainly not what SQ rep reported earlier. There is a press conference forthcomin
90 Mikephotos: From this picture (see URL) I would say it's confirmed that the reg. is either 9V-SPL or -SPK, Tropical Megatop. http://www.msnbc.com/news/483539.asp
91 777kicksass: what happened to the air china a/c on the runway?
93 United Airline: The most updated info now is that 96 were reported missing and 1 was confirmed dead. So sad......... A B 747-400 has crashed.......... The weather is
94 BSL: On CNN they interviewed a survivor of the crash. He said that there are fatalities. BSL
95 Samurai 777: This is a terrible day in Singapore Airline's history! Apparently, a hospital has said that one person aboard that plane died, according to CNN. It is
96 GKirk: Miraculous, so far reports say everyone survived!!!
97 Modesto2: The MSNBC reporter, while looking at new video of the accident, says the China Airlines aircraft could be an A300. Again, this is not confirmed, but j
98 Trvlr: The latest from CNN.com: Aaron G. Survivors rescued after Singapore Airlines 747 crashes in Taiwan Firefighters work at the burned wreckage of the jet
99 GKirk: Lets hope the injured make a quick recovery and the cause is found out quickly.
101 Hkgspotter1: IT IS A TROPICAL 747-400 FOR SURE , NOT MAYBE. The people at SQ are very wrong to say everyone is alive when we now hear 95 are missing !!, what the h
102 Ab.400: The safety-equipment on the plane and the airport may have saved many lives.
103 Flashmeister: NBC News now confirms at least 6 dead. Why did SQ come out so early and say that there were no fatalities? That's an awful message to send if you're n
104 RayChuang: I think the Taiwanese authorities are to blame for this crash. Given the horrid winds and rain from an approaching typhoon, they should have never all
105 F-WWKH: I have now read 34 times that there are no deaths, 39 times that there are, several numbers on souls on board, 14 different numbers of injuries, 25 ti
106 Hkgspotter1: HAVE YOU JUST SEEN THE VIDEO THAT BBC HAVE !!!! It was taken from another aircraft and shows about two pieces of aircraft burning out of control and p
107 Hkdragon2: HKGSpotter: Immediately after an accident when we don't even know for sure if anybody has died is not the time for "I knew it would happen" comments,
108 Boeing757/767: Statement Regarding Injuries on Singapore Airlines Flight SQ#6 LOS ANGELES, Oct. 31 /PRNewswire/ -- Singapore Airlines flight SQ#6 from Taipei to Los
109 åviatioÑ_lover: Why has'nt the press confrence at LAX begun?
110 SIA fan: What a terrible loss for SIA. I've flown that route just two months ago and I've flown on the same exact aircraft 9V-SPL in 1999! I got goosebumps whe
111 Hkdragon2: The LAX press conference hasn't begun because SQ is in total chaos trying to coordinate this... They haven't even issued a number for relatives to cal
112 Hkgspotter1: Pilot says he hit an object on takeoff !!!! SQ say 68 in hopspital 16 are not injured The rest of the passengers they have no idea at this time !!!
113 AF Cabin Crew: My heart to all Singapore Airlines employees, the crew, the passengers, the taiwanese rescuers and all the families. All of us at Air France understan
114 åviatioÑ_lover: What do u think the object that the ac reportedly hit during the takeoff run. Airport officials said that the ac did not hit any other ac when abortin
115 VirginLover: Halloween is not a good day to travel.. didn't Egypt Air flight 990 crash one year ago today? What a sad accident. My thoughts go out to those involve
117 Hkdragon2: For those who don't have access to the press conference in their news coverage, SQ reports: 68 PAX in hospital 16 PAX uninjured All cockpit crew uninj
118 L'espace18: The pilot say he has hurted something and he decided to stop the take-off
119 Hkgspotter1: It seems it was to far on to abort the takeoff.
120 OO-VEG: How is the safety record of SIA. I never heard of any big accidents???? Is this their largest accident so far?? Sad story by the way. I hope the survi
121 L'espace18: tHERE IS OFFICIALLY 45 PEOPLE DEAD FOR THE MOMENT.
122 Hkdragon2: Where does this "officially" come from, L'espace1? SQ has refused to answer any questions as to number of fatalities... Please provide your source or
123 Sk501: I thought Singapore Airlines confirmed NO fatalities? How unprofessional and sad indeed.
124 Hkgspotter1: They now say 48 bodies have been removed from the wreckage..
125 B757300: L.A.-Bound 747 With 178 on Board Crashes In Taiwan Tuesday, October 31, 2000 A Singapore Airlines jet bound for Los Angeles with 178 people on board c
126 L'espace18: the Taiwan government just sayd theyre are 47 dead people officially.Heard it from TVA, a canadian news channel
127 B757300: Here is another report from CNN's web site. (CNN) -- Taiwan's transportation minister said Tuesday's crash of Singapore Airlines Flight 006 bound for
129 Jaysit: Was Taipei Airport equipped with Wind Shear detectors? Usually Airline officials stay mum after a major crash. When TWA 800 crashed, TWA wasn't saying
130 F-WWKH: It is easy to say that now - by the time SQ made the statement there might have been no fatalities, CONFRIMED ones that is.
131 Brissie_lions: Guys....how about you all calm down now ok As an ex-SQ staffer here in PER, and having gone thru crisis management training, I understand completely w
132 SegmentKing: did a Continental or Continental Micronesia DC 10 take off just before this plane???
133 B737-700: Best wishes to the families and the passengers aboard.
134 N312RC: According to ABCNEWS.com, 47 people were killed, 48 unaccounted for, 68 in hospital, 16 with no injury at all. Latest Pics: Video from a passenger on
135 Nicolaki: Oh my god!!!!!!! this is horrible!!!!!!!!!! may the victims rest in peace.
137 Sea_Tac2000: A lot of you are so judgemental. I'd like to see (if you were an SQ employee, airport employee etc.) how any of you would handle a situation like this
138 USAFHummer: This is SIA's first crash-there was the SilkAir 733 that crashed in Indonesia a few years ago, but I don't know if you consider that to be part. Greg
139 L'espace18: T A I P E I, Taiwan, Oct. 31 — A Singapore Airlines jetliner crashed today after taking off from Taipei’s international airport in a fierc
140 Boeing747_600: Both of you seem to be astonished that carriers like SR and SQ could possibly crash an airplane. Bear in mind that any carrier (you name it) could cra
141 Ctbarnes: Not on mine, Scotty, I'm in complete agreement. SQ, like most airlines, have a well planned disaster protocol that can be put into operation at a mome
142 Hkdragon2: SegmentKing, joking at the deaths of at least 49 people is disgusting. Kindly take such comments elsewhere.
143 Tripl7: As an F/A myself, my heart goes out for the victims of this crash - all pax and crew that is. The survivors will go thru PTSD - post traumatic stress
144 Flashmeister: In defense of the media, Ctbarnes, CNN and MSNBC had an official spokesman from SQ on the line who himself said that "we have confirmed that there are
145 F-WWKH: And we shouldn't forget that it is 3:30am here in Taipei and the people do a tremendous job in face of the darkness and the typhoon that is passing by
146 WorldTraveller: It's horrible, and I believe the pax still unaccounted for are dead. It seems that SIA was trying to downplay the whole crash from the beginning, yet
147 Jaysit: Sharat: I'm just a bit shocked that my favorite international carrier finally had a fatal accident. An aircrash is always a culmination of statistical
148 Lowfareair: I am just glad that the China 747 was a freighter, and the SQ 744 only had 179 people on-board. If both planes were full, then this would be worse tha
149 Sdate747: This is very sad news. Not only for the fact that lives were lost. Let me be very clear first. Lives being lost is the saddest thing that happened. I
150 Aa777dr: Oh my god you guys. I was in a staff meeting and when I came to the forum I found this. This is shocking!!! Oh lord please bless those people on board
151 Goingboeing: I always have a problem after an air crash with the media wanting to be the "first" to give us the "facts". So what have I seen in the past 5 hours? A
152 SegmentKing: Asking about the Continental jet was just a pun aimed at some drama queens... I have lost 2 friends when a plane crashed in Quincy, IL and I have been
153 Air Taiwan: My thoughts with the victims and the families. Singapore Airlines, the emergency handling is less than satisfactory. The spokesperson at the live medi
154 Mountainridge: On MSNBC they just said that 65 people are now dead. Also they said that there where 25 Americans on board! Nick
155 Ron_flyer: singapore ailrines has local F/O's with only around 200 flight hours on 747. in usa you can hardly get your CPL with that. this has nothinh to do with
156 Jaysit: And where do you get your information from Ron_flyer?
157 Meister808: Such a pity to see another beautiful 744 go down... I think the FOD is a little hokey... Oh well... God Bless all involved -Meister
158 Ron_flyer: Jaysit: When I lived in Singapore there was a large report in a local newspaper about the SQ effort to get locals into the cockpit. The F/O go to the
160 Boeing747-400: This is horrible!! The plane went through major maintenence in September 2000. This is the first fatal crash in a 744, it's so sad. The China Airlines
161 Flashmeister: Goingboeing, be careful. You said: I always have a problem after an air crash with the media wanting to be the "first" to give us the "facts". So what
162 Senliture: Information sources: Taiwan Yahoo! News, translated from Chinese http://tw.yahoo.com/headlines/001101/pol/ettoday/01030601-01-0txt.html According to t
163 Air Taiwan: These are the figures from the udn.com news site. Fatalities: 65 Injured: 68 uninjured: 16 unaccounted: 30 two Australians were onboard but both well.
164 CPDC10-30: Shame on the Taiwan Airport authority and air traffic control for allowing airport operations in such weather! Shame on Singapore Airlines for permitt
165 TWAneedsNOhelp: Thanks for the report. I'm curious why does SQ have their SIN-LAX flight stop in Taipei? Can they 747-400 not make the trip without a refueling stop?
166 AJ: As I've said in another post it's too early and extremely disrespectful to cast blame at this stage. My heart goes out to all involved, especially tho
167 AirOne: the news stations I'm watching says the plane was taking off in a strong storm and may have hit something on the runway causing the pilot to pull up b
168 AJ: To correct my previous post it was a Korean B747-400 at Seoul written off, no the AF example which was repaired and returned to service similarly to Q
169 Chiawei: Don't blame the airport authorities, the tower did their job in notifying the crew that windshear condition existed. The pilot has the final say in de
170 Boeing747-700: What a shame. That is some bad news and I dont know what to say. That plane was faily new 1997 built, It does not seem like something that new would b
171 Bicoastal: I was on that flight last July. It was packed. This one appeared only half so. My heart goes out to all.
172 TWAneedsNOhelp: I also wish to express my sorrow and horror at such a tragic crash. Thanks AJ for the 747-400 facts.
173 COA Captain: I was in flight from LAX to Tokyo when I was patched through to it. It sounded terrifying.
174 Patches: Can anybody tell me how many 747-400's there are flying? I'm guessing around 500 or so. Thats still an amasing record not to have 1 fatility on a 747-
175 YWG777: This is a sad day in Aviation. God bless all the people that were on SIA 006. My god be with you and your familys though this difficult time That was
176 Boeing747-400: Does anyone know if the pilots survived?
178 Jaysit: Ron_flyer, the Captain of this flight was a Malaysian citizen with over 11,200 hours of flying experience, of which nearly 3000 were on a 747.
179 Zanadou: The Sinapore Airlines domain root ( http://www.singaporeair.com ), has been "blacked out" except for these following Press Releases: (1 of 3) Flight S
180 Carioca Canuck: Here's a good link.......... The pilot, who survived the crash according to the BBC, has stated that the plane hit an object during take off. http://b
181 Carioca Canuck: Sorry....that should be........... http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_1000000/1000448.stm
183 GUNDU: God bless all the pax and crew on the flight.The poor plane involved was 9V-SPK and the latest news say that 68 pax are dead. Gundu
184 Cathay111: This is a very sad day for SQ. WIth the crash of one of their beautiful "Tropical" aircraft will this mean the other is repainted to avoid any confusi
186 F-WWKH: How many passengers could tell that this Singapore Jumbo is/was in a special 'tropical' color scheme? I opine not more than 1 in a 100000. AJ: Which K
187 747-600X: The most important thing we can do now is have hope for those alive. I think it worse to live a paralized life than to die a quick death, so let us no
188 AJ: Sorry WWKH, it was a pax version http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/view_details.cgi?date=08051998&airline=Korean+Air+Lines
190 Udo: I'm deeply shocked and cannot believe it happened tp my favourite airline. I really hope the airline is not responsible for that crash in any way. I r
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