StarCityFlyr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2329 times:
As an old war horse traveler, I've often wondered if any of the Commercial Aircraft Seat designers ever actually sit in the seats they design. On most domestic commercial flights, I found the seats to be just slightly above those of an old stage coach or buck board wagon. Being 6'2" and not of necessarily large girth (200 lbs), I've thought many times that there was no sense of reality between the seats that are designed and the souls that are expected to park their fannies in them for any extended period of time.
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BrettFromCLT From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2275 times:
I'm 5'10" and 210, and always find the seats comfortable enough as long as I am not next to the guy I was next to on my last flight on a US 757. He shared a good portion of my seat. The pitch is usually what gets to me - it's hard to read when the pax in front reclines.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26699 posts, RR: 83 Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2270 times:
I imagine some of it comes from the reinforcement these seats are required to have in order to survive the stresses of air travel and to try and survive the stresses of air crashing.
ACEtraveller From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2262 times:
There is more emphasis today on cutting down weight, due to the higher fuel costs. One way of achieving this is, unfortunately for us, by changing the seat design such as making the cushions and padding a lot thinner. That, along with lowering seat pitch and cramming an extra seat in per row, could explain why you don't think they are too comfy. That is for Y class anyway, more pax consideration goes into seat design, and cabin layout, for J and F class.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26699 posts, RR: 83 Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2168 times:
Quoting ACEtraveller (Reply 3): There is more emphasis today on cutting down weight, due to the higher fuel costs. One way of achieving this is, unfortunately for us, by changing the seat design such as making the cushions and padding a lot thinner.
Fortunately, some seat manufacturers have a clue. AS' 737NGs have thinner seat backs and seat cushions, however they are still comfortable and it works out to giving you about an extra inch or two in "usable legroom" up around the knee area, which is nice for us tall folk.
Australia1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2148 times:
Quoting BrettFromCLT (Reply 1): The pitch is usually what gets to me - it's hard to read when the pax in front reclines.
Seems to us, that too much talk of seat pitch, which doesn't take into account seat thickness. Instead of talking about seat pitch, should be talking about distance between seats, eg.
2 airlines have same seat pitch in Y, but has seat which is 1 inch thicker, so effectively 1 inch less space.
Older seats tend to be thicker, whereas newer seats tend to be thinner & presumably lighter, but does that mean more comfortable.
Ryanair are going to no recline & no seat back pocket or meal tray. Does this actually increase room? Is there fixed seat back angle same as forward position with most reclining seats or somewhere in between full forward & full back positions?
Sat on a NZ 767 4 or 5 years ago, where seat back didn't recline, but the whole seat pivoted, so when seat back moved back, so did seat base, so angle remained the same (finding this hard to explain)
CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2079 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1941 times:
Quoting Australia1 (Reply 5): Ryanair are going to no recline & no seat back pocket or meal tray. Does this actually increase room? Is there fixed seat back angle same as forward position with most reclining seats or somewhere in between full forward & full back positions?
The meal tray is still there, at least on the brand new B738 I flew some months ago. The seats are in upright position and are not that bad for their two-hour flights and seat pitch is 30 inches which is bearable for a six-footer like me.
I see more and more airlines are introducing the skinny Recaro seat in A320 aircraft (SWISS, TACA etc)... wonder how comfy they really are...
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