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Bienvenidos A Bordo. Chile Aviaton Thread #1  
User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2375 posts, RR: 14
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5054 times:
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We've seen Ireland, Ecuador, now let's go on with Chile.  Smile

What's the current aviation scene in Chile like ... the following topics pop to mind:

1) Is the delivery date Q2 2007 for LANs first A318 still efective?

2) Will Aerolinea Principal really ever male it off the ground?
They are backed by Futura, so my forecast is they will see the same fate as Hamburg Chile, operate for one season, do their daily Chile Caribbean hop and shut down around october.

3) What about SkyAirlines aims on upgrading their fleet with A320 material?? They places job offers for A320 crews, yet there's no official statement from the Sky Management about furhter fleet plans. What about AirMan ... they would need A320 certification for line maintenance ... or will they let LAN do the job?

4) FACh buying A318 as a B735 replacement was the big rumor on this years FIDAE .... is it for real?

Now, le't see what the folks from Frankfurt, Geneva and Santiago will have to say  Smile

Mario
LH526


Trittst im Morgenrot daher, seh ich dich im Strahlenmeer ...
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User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2409 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4967 times:

Quoting LH526 (Thread starter):

1) Is the delivery date Q2 2007 for LANs first A318 still efective?

They should, and I remember read about onbe of the 2 343 left to be delivered in 2007. We'll see

Quoting LH526 (Thread starter):
Will Aerolinea Principal really ever male it off the ground?

Not sure, besides hearing something about summer season charters

Quoting LH526 (Thread starter):
What about SkyAirlines aims on upgrading their fleet with A320 material?? They places job offers for A320 crews, yet there's no official statement from the Sky Management about furhter fleet plans

H2 is not upgraded, they got a 320 for charter seasonal fights, to be mostly destinated to brazil destinations (Florianopolis, Salvador, Porto Seguro, etc)

Quoting LH526 (Thread starter):
FACh buying A318 as a B735 replacement was the big rumor on this years FIDAE .... is it for real?

This are news for me. The first replacement FACH would have to do is un upgrade to the presidential 735, that had an extra fuel tank removed and its range now makes it almost unusefull. Fach has told many times about a 762...

Regards )(



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4943 times:

Ahh, this thread brings me back to my (too few) days of living in Chile...

Quoting LH526 (Thread starter):
4) FACh buying A318 as a B735 replacement was the big rumor on this years FIDAE .... is it for real?

Does Airbus make a 318CJ? If not, a 319CJ would seem like a suitable replacement. What does FACH use their 733 (ex D-ABXC) for?

Quoting LH526 (Thread starter):

3) What about SkyAirlines aims on upgrading their fleet with A320 material??

Does H2 have any aspirations to fly long enough routes that the 732 would not be usable (narrowbody; not talking about the MAD rumors)? If not, it would seem that some of their 732s have a fair amount of life left in them, though birds like CC-CTU and CC-CAP are getting old.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2409 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
Does Airbus make a 318CJ? If not, a 319CJ would seem like a suitable replacement. What does FACH use their 733 (ex D-ABXC) for?

Mostly to transport personnel and families troughout the country



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Quoting Arcano (Reply 3):

Mostly to transport personnel and families troughout the country

So when they need to replace that one, range isn't a big issue?



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2409 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4928 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
So when they need to replace that one, range isn't a big issue?

It replaced the 707 used for that purpose, that's why I don't think the 733 is at any point targeted for replacement, as the Presidency's 735. The range of the 733 is enough for what is needed



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4916 times:

Skyairline is looking at two destinations in Argentina and Lima, Peru.

http://www.luchtzak.be/article13308.html

Finally, I flew to Santiago, what a beautiful city...

saludos


User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4911 times:

Quoting Arcano (Reply 1):
They should, and I remember read about onbe of the 2 343 left to be delivered in 2007. We'll see

Great! This will hopefully mean Auckland and Sydney will go daily and potentially, we could see new non stop flights to Los Angeles, Johannesberg, Frankfurt, Heathrow or Barcelona!

Also, why aren't LAN putting in their new Business Class bed seats into the 343's? I mean the 763's are getting them, why not the 343's?


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7592 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4888 times:

If I am not mistaken, the A340-300 that will be delivered to LA during 2007 is precisely to make SCL-AKL-SYD-AKL-SCL daily.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinePU752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4877 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 8):
SCL-AKL-SYD-AKL-SCL

that route could be filled daily mostly by pax from Brazil,Argentina, and Uruguay (if im not wrong the biggest community of southamerican in australia). AR fares are quite above LA's, and service by AR, i'd rather take a buquebus all the way to AKL before taking an AR plane.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7592 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4872 times:

Quoting PU752 (Reply 9):
AR fares are quite above LA's, and service by AR, i'd rather take a buquebus all the way to AKL before taking an AR plane.

Really? Interesting and quite difficult to understand... for an airline with inferior reputation and quality to effectively compete with a world-class airline like LA, lower fares are of the essence. I believe that lately AR is having the flight end at AKL and is sending the pax bound for SYD with QF or someone else... I can definitely see why this is happening.

NZ will eventually start flights to South America. It will be hard for AR to continue flying to Oceania once this happens.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinePU752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4862 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 10):
Really? Interesting and quite difficult to understand... for an airline with inferior reputation and quality to effectively compete with a world-class airline like LA, lower fares are of the essence. I believe that lately AR is having the flight end at AKL and is sending the pax bound for SYD with QF or someone else... I can definitely see why this is happening.

Eddie, not sure if you're getting what im saying, is that LA fares at BELOW AR's, and in-flight service by AR its really bad, as i mentioned, i'd rather take a boat BEFORE taking an AR flight AKL.


User currently offlineTBCITDG From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 921 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4837 times:

Pu:
Regarding the service, it is all subjective and is really up to the experience that one has when they fly. I really do not want to get into a this vs that as I have had great and bad times on both airlines.

Both LA and AR are struggling with schedules as they need more aircraft to pump up their services. Keep in mind that QF wanted LA to go daily towards then end of last year! It was only last month that LA left Sydney at around 1800 as opposed to early in the morning. According to ground staff this has been happening quite a lot. And AR "where" sending pax back and forth with QF to minimise delays and maximise the usage of the A340.

As for fares, I strongly disagree. Both LA and QF are known in the Latin American community here in Sydney for charging more than AR.
So much so (and this has been mentioned before) some Chilean pax prefer to fly via EZE as the ticket works out to be far cheaper than to fly with LA.
Sometimes the price difference is up $500!
The Australian -South American market is largely supported by families/tourist. The ones that are willing to fork out big bucks for tickets are the mining companies that are in Latin America and travel J.

PS: If I am not mistaken Chileans make up the largest migrant community here in OZ!
Cheers


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7592 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4768 times:

Quoting PU752 (Reply 11):
not sure if you're getting what im saying, is that LA fares at BELOW AR's, and in-flight service by AR its really bad, as i mentioned, i'd rather take a boat BEFORE taking an AR flight AKL

Of course, hence the phrase:


Quoting EddieDude (Reply 10):
for an airline with inferior reputation and quality to effectively compete with a world-class airline like LA, lower fares are of the essence

in which the airline with inferior reputation and quality is AR. AR needs lower fares than LA's if they want to stay competitive, but they are not delivering according to what you said. I think they will end up dropping this route once LA's flights are up to daily and NZ starts flying to South America in 2 years or so.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineTBCITDG From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 921 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4717 times:

Why would AR drop one of it's most profitable routes??

The ones that would have a tough time is NZ as they would need feeder traffic ex EZE and SCL.

LA have it greatly covered with Lan xxxxx. And AR have a relative good network throughout South America. NZ would find it tough with EK heavily moving into it's turf (AKL-LAX) and there is no longer the power full RG to help it out.

LA have a great "hard product" that could easily compete with NZ although it would not hurt to put the "new J class" on it's A340!


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4714 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 6):
Skyairline is looking at two destinations in Argentina and Lima, Peru.

Lima is now around since exactly two years and I doubt that it will happen. In between came the MAD struggle about traffic rights.
Finally the rumor about taking over Aerocondor in Peru. Finally not one of these things finally materialized. I am not sure im H2 is strong enough to afford an expansion. Some days ago I received a mailing that they were opening a new destination. I don't remember what it was, but it was domestic P... ?


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4696 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 15):

Roger....


User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4672 times:

Quoting TBCITDG (Reply 14):
The ones that would have a tough time is NZ as they would need feeder traffic ex EZE and SCL.

No they wouldn't. They have connections to AKL from MEL/SYD/BNE/NRT/KIX/PVG/HKG/PER e.t.c and not to mention partner airlines like SQ from SIN or TG from BKK. I would say that NZ would be targeting PAX who want to connect in AKL to NZ's services, not the other way around.

If NZ flew to EZE or SCL though, they would have some connections on airlines like AC, UA, LX or LH. I know some of these airlines fly between EZE/SCL and Uruguay and Brazil.


User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2409 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4643 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 6):
Skyairline is looking at two destinations in Argentina and Lima, Peru.

LIM has been announced to death via IQQ, which could be interesting for pax from northern chile to avoid to conect via SCL to USA/Caribbean/Northern Southamerica

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 7):
Great! This will hopefully mean Auckland and Sydney will go daily

It's announced so

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 7):
we could see new non stop flights to Los Angeles, Johannesberg, Frankfurt, Heathrow or Barcelona!

Non Stop SCL-LAX has happened sometimes for seasonal peaks, although now with all LIM network it doesn't make much sense. I've always wondered why FRA is the only city for the continuation of SCL. Why not combine some SCL-MAD-CDG/FRA/LHR?

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 7):
Also, why aren't LAN putting in their new Business Class bed seats into the 343's? I mean the 763's are getting them, why not the 343's?

AFAIK, 340s are keeping their first class unlike the 767s, which is the reason the seats where changed

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 10):
for an airline with inferior reputation and quality to effectively compete with a world-class airline like LA



Quoting PU752 (Reply 11):
in-flight service by AR its really bad, as i mentioned,

mmm, you should fly LAN. Its EMBARRASSING the downgrade of the service. No more hot meals in SCL-LIM and SCL-EZE or domestic, and many other little things that are becoming annoying. I flew business to GIG for new year's and it was a mess (trip report pending).

On the other hand, many, many destinations have dropped a lot the fares in night flights. Fares that was unimaginable before... Would now LA be combining service and LCC?

Quoting TBCITDG (Reply 12):
PS: If I am not mistaken Chileans make up the largest migrant community here in OZ!
Cheers

At least Australia has the second largest Chilean community abroad...

Quoting TBCITDG (Reply 14):
LA have it greatly covered with Lan xxxxx. And AR have a relative good network throughout South America

Indeed, AR is a great option and competition for LA in SCL-Oceania market

Regards )(



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User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2409 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4569 times:

two interesting updates in Chilean aviation:

1. Aeropuerto Internacional Arturo Merino Benitez (SCL)

A lot of heavy work. First, the "new" runway will be closed in February for heavy repairing; it has only 1 year old and it had have a lot of troubles due to the concrete contamination with pomacite dust during construction.
The result? The upper lays lacks adherence and shows many cracks that demanded the warranty.
Meanwhile, and due to the passenger increase, a lot of changes are being made inside the terminal: new costumes, immigration control, etc.
More parking, new hotel better access to the terminal, etc.

2. Fuerza Aérea 1 (Air Force Presidential 735).
After Boeing demanded to remove the additionally fuel tanks, the aircraft is almost useless, which had created a lot of political critics: those who blame President Frei for buying such an inadequate aircraft in 1997, and those who think that a "new" presidential aircraft is no needed, or that the country has other priorities for spending that money.
The fact is that FACH already declared the aircraft no much longer useful and recognize they are looking for the replacement, for which the 735 would be given as credit.
The most likely choice will be a 762.

Regards



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User currently offlineEastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

Any words on new airlines servicing SCL besides the potential arrival of NZ?. It sounds like SCL has lost all kinds of airlines and gained only a few. The lost od carriers through time like BA, KL, LH, AZ (quite sometime ago), CO, UA, MX to name a few. Only LX was swapped for LH. Lets not forget the Brazilian that went under or stopped service (Varig, Vasp and Transbrasil).

Any of these planning a return?. Did all the traffic go to LA?. I still pray for a IAD-SCL route on UA. C'mon there's got to be a way!

I was at SCL early this week on my way back to DCA via MIA on AA. A lot of work being done. Holiday Inn Santiago Airport is under construction as well as new parking garages. Good for them!.

About the presidential plane, why not buy an old LA 763, like they used to do with the 707. I guess LA no longer a state owned company has something to do with it.

What are LA next plans for expansion?. LHR, CPT or JNB feasible?. What about NRT or some asia destinations to avoid traffic thru US airports?.



AA will Rise Again!
User currently offlineEastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4412 times:

I am sorry I left out the short lived Air Madrid. I left SCL last Sunday 1/7/07 and there is still an A330 parked there with Air Madrid colors.


AA will Rise Again!
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4334 times:

Quoting Arcano (Reply 19):
First, the "new" runway will be closed in February for heavy repairing; it has only 1 year old and it had have a lot of troubles due to the concrete contamination with pomacite dust during construction.

When the new runway was first open, they closed and refinished the old runway, right?



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineSLUAviator From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 357 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4298 times:

I have a broad Chile aviation question for everyone:

My sister is working on her PhD experiment in Chile, and I asked her to bring me a few of their charts. The pilots who fly to the island she works on said they order them but the number they gave her was not the right one. Does anyone know how/where to order Chilean charts? I asked the owner of the pilot shop at the airport where I instruct and she had no idea.

I'd appreciate any help!



What do I know? I just fly 'em.......
User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2409 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4271 times:

Quoting Eastern023 (Reply 21):
I am sorry I left out the short lived Air Madrid. I left SCL last Sunday 1/7/07 and there is still an A330 parked there with Air Madrid colors.

The aircraft is "in detention" till Air Madrid respond to the people that was left in Chile and Chileans in Europe after the flights ended.

It's all part of a group sue against NM

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 22):
When the new runway was first open, they closed and refinished the old runway, right?

Yes, and last december some portion of the end of the taxiway where the a/c turns to the runway also had cracks...



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25 Post contains links Lh526 : You might dig your way through this website: http://www.aipchile.cl/dasa/aip_chile_con_contenido/index.php Plenty of OFFICIAL chilean airport and enr
26 Lh526 : I was also told by pilots and the DGAC that the new runway wasn't straight, but merely had a 'wavey' surface, so when speeding up (and especially upo
27 Post contains images Acontador : Thanks Arcano for the tip, so it will be again easier to get all traffic on just 17L for taking pictures! If it just wasn't so hot that we can only t
28 Post contains links and images Lh526 : WOW!!! Wait a minute! This is great news Will the plane be painted in Sky cls? or is it a pure wet lease? ..... Is anyone here able to get me a safet
29 Gabo787 : What about Aerolineas del Sur?, are they still flying?, how is their service? and do they have a website? regards
30 Post contains links Acontador : Aerolineas del Sur, yeah, alive and kicking (well, sort of). http://www.aerolineasdelsur.cl/index.asp Still only 732, with a total fleet of 4, with fo
31 TACAA320 : Indeed ! One of my favourite cities of South America.
32 Arcano : Ya lo habia pensado... Yes, as the first charters were starting this week. No, I haven't heard of it. I always thought more 343s was unlikely, specia
33 LipeGIG : Sky is also flying a weekly flight SCL-GIG-SCL. And LA has just been awarded as the best Business Class in South America... i imagine the others! Als
34 Arcano : And Salvador, Porto Seguro and Florianopolis
35 TBCITDG : When will SKY start their services to COR? Any one have any ideas?
36 Arcano : Actually I had no idea COR was in the plans of H2, and if you ask me, I don't see the point at all... Regards )(
37 TBCITDG : What is happening in Peru? Have just read that Travel agents have been protesting in Lima not only against LA but also Taca! Apparently they have been
38 Arcano : No idea! "El Comercio" journal does not inform anything It's not corruption at all, it's for profit out of priviledged information since he bought st
39 Post contains links and images Acontador : Carlos was the fastest, so he deserves the honours: View Large View MediumPhoto © Carlos P. Valle C.
40 CXA330300 : Any new airlines from outside Chile coming to SCL?
41 LipeGIG : Varig has plans to return to SCL during 2007.
42 TBCITDG : Arcano: A quick question that comes to mind : Why do you think that service standards have dropped on LA? Is it a cost cutting measure or is it morale
43 EurostarVA : Nice thread you all ! Enjoying reading it, although I've never been to Chili (but would love to one day!).
44 LH526 : yea, I expected Carlos, Alvaro or Alejandro to drop in with a picture of it this days .... DAMN! I dehydrated from drooling over this plane! Mario LH
45 Eastern023 : Greetings from IAD!. Still curious about the new airlines going to Chile. How firm is NZ on opening SCL?. LA expansion?.
46 Post contains links and images Acontador : Just back from the airport, and caught one stranger to this places: Does anybody know what he was doing at SCL today (arriving at around 15:30)? Is th
47 Eastern023 : Is it SAETA?. I cannot read the airline logo on the fuselage.
48 Acontador : Travel Service, OK-TVB.
49 Eastern023 : Ah cool!.
50 AF086 : Yes. This 738 was leased by Pluna and is flying charters on their behalf.
51 Cubsrule : The problem is that any twin will have problems on SCL-AKL. So they have to keep some quad around, and given that, it would seem to make economic sen
52 Post contains links DEVILFISH : Yes, it's called the Elite..... http://www.airbus.com/store/photolib..._lowres_A318Elite_PWengines_mr.jpg http://www.airbus.com/store/photolib...318_
53 Post contains images Arcano : Mixed answer about a topic I'm thinking to start, the fact is that LA is cutting a lot of costs, but also offering great deals Let us know I think th
54 Post contains images Acontador : Thanks AF086!
55 TBCITDG : As with you Cubsrule I think that it has to do with crew morale! There are certain pressures that are felt by crew. Long trips with short stays, crew
56 Eastern023 : Speaking about SCL, what was the decision behind choosing Holiday Inn as the Airport hotel chain?. I also saw that the rent a car companies are buildi
57 Arcano : That building is complete as it was design in 1991-1992 for an airport intended to be usefull till 2030. Things are changed thought, and the 4 jetway
58 Aio86 : I just returned from spending about 7 months living in Chile, and got to try domestic flights with Lan, Sky and Aerolineas del Sur. The longest trip I
59 Cubsrule : At least the AR carts are in the right region. Some of the LA 732s (CC-CDB is the one I know off the top of my head) have some German signs left on t
60 Eastern023 : That building is complete as it was design in 1991-1992 for an airport intended to be usefull till 2030. The terminal space looks tight though. I was
61 AwysBSB : Does someone know how AF401 and AF406 are doing? Would AF get to keep CDG-SCL-CDG daily and nonstop? I believe for that service has a good load factor
62 Eastern023 : I hope is doing better. This would be interesting to know. I would also like to know hos LX doing with their ZHR-GRU-SCL on a 340. Better when it was
63 Arcano : It's Western, eastern has no room for expanding. The terminal can be expanded in both directions
64 Eastern023 : I thought the lot where the old terminal was was big enough for anoter blng. And of course the western part is expandable. Ever LA thought about his
65 Post contains links and images Acontador : An update: - Swiss has been granted the right to perform flights within Chile. Does anybody knows why they requested this? - A new airline has been gr
66 Arcano : The old terminal location was used for platforms, that's why I said there's no more room for parking over there, and anyway it's cargo land... Many y
67 RJ_Delta : Swiss will not operate flights within Chile. They only receive the ATO (Autorización Técnica Operativa) for its operations to Chile. All airlines w
68 Post contains images Acontador : Thanks RJ for the clarification!
69 LH526 : Aint that a little late? LX96/97 is on the SCL run for a year now ...! Mario LH526
70 Eastern023 : It seems to me like there is not a whole lot happening at SCL this time around. I like SCL as I have live memories from when I was little and we used
71 Post contains images Acontador : That's partially true. But you still get some international airlines: Air Canada, Air France, Swiss, Iberia, AA, Delta, Gol, TAM, Pluna, LAB, Aerolin
72 Eastern023 : LA is probably one of the reasons why not a significant presence of int'l carriers at SCL. They go everywhere and they are a "good" airline so why fl
73 Arcano : "Once I've heard chileans" = 1 person? I think the real reason for not more airlines serving SCL is for the size of the country, it has not massive t
74 Lh526 : Actually, that's as it should stay .. don't make Chile another Playa something or "the spot to be" .. keep it sophisticated and for the real traveler
75 Eastern023 : One just wishes there was more options when travelling there. I have ruled out LA years ago. I oly have DL or AA. United one day will come back, this
76 Acontador : May I ask why? I've flown with both DL and AA to the US, and actually saw no significant difference in service, schedule or fare. Furthermore, once L
77 Eastern023 : Somehow, and I understand I might have dodged the bullet on this, but AA and DL have managed not to piss me off on international routes.....yet. I on
78 RJ_Delta : Chile is a small country with a small market, and we have few airlines incomparition with others States, it doesn't mean him not to be Chile a not ve
79 Eastern023 : Oh no sir, I actually heard thsi from a couple of native Chileans. Friends of my mother. I believed so until I was old enough to know otherwise. I so
80 Cubsrule : No, and while IAH would be a good alternative to DFW, it's actually not particularly well-situated to be a South America hub (and it seems like CO is
81 Eastern023 : I have to agree with you. Same old song for me though. I hope that United returns and brings IAD-SCL nonstop. They do fly to GRU and EZE from IAD alr
82 Acontador : I still cannot understand why we can fly from SCL directly to Europe only to MAD, FRA, ZRH and CDG. I would assume there should be enough passengers t
83 Cubsrule : Absolutely, and, FWIW, I think that would probably be the next logical destination and carrier from SCL. Remember that UA has been there before.
84 LipeGIG : To UK you should be right, but concerning to Scandinavia i believe there isn't scale of business to run a flight (non-stop). If you include a stop in
85 Eastern023 : I hope we see BA return to SCL soon.
86 Post contains images Mayhem : Maybe they see LA and IB via MAD as enough Europe-SCL traffic for oneworld? Another SCL question, i was there 21st of january and i spotted 3 AA 763
87 Eastern023 : DL one flight to ATL AA some days has 1 flight to MIA somedays has an extra seasonal, plus DFW.
88 Cubsrule : DL ran 10x weekly for a while last year. I don't know how that went. I know I was on DL 146 in May of 2005 and they said that the southbound flight h
89 RJ_Delta : Most flight from U.S. Airlines to Santiago have loads variable in Economy Class, but in Business thay have good load factors. This summer Delta decide
90 Eastern023 : Glad to hear that. I know AA flew 777 MIA-SCl for a while. I guess that service may return when AA gets more 777s in. Right?...at least thats what I
91 Eastern023 : I meant SCL. Sorry for the typo.
92 RJ_Delta : May be not. The 777 is to big for the MIA-SCL route because is a very competitive route and you have different options 1 daily non stop flight of LAN
93 Post contains images USADreamliner : The LA flight attendant training include "how to smile"? They are like fembots with PMS! Or you can fly with the world renowned, high class, better th
94 Arcano : DFW has an literally an advantage: AA does it, so you can belong to Lanpass and earn the miles Even via EZE would be a start UA also introduced the 7
95 RJ_Delta : Resume this topic. For the next March 15 Air Comet will starts 3 weekly non stop flight from Madrid to Santiago, using a A340-300. Air Comet will repl
96 Arcano : Any news about what will happen with Air Madrid 330 detained at Santiago?
97 Eastern023 : Amen to that. I would book tomorrow. A stop in EZE before heading to SCL flying over the Andes would be a blast from the past. Eastern and Pan Am did
98 Post contains links RJ_Delta : Air Madrid A330 still grounded at SCL near cargo apron. A few weeks ago i can take some photos of the plane. You can see at : http://www.aeropuertosa
99 Eastern023 : I got this info from a contact at DFW ops. I will go with what AA in Chile has to say. It would be cool to ride a 777 to SCL on a future visit though
100 RJ_Delta : So do you have an estimade when American will resume its 777 operations to Santiago? Maybe from DFW?
101 Eastern023 : No, what I've heard is that they would go back as far as they have enough coverage for the bigger mkts. LHR, TYO, etc.... This was last year, they co
102 Eastern023 : Do you think they are thinking about this?.
103 Cubsrule : No, because they are so short on widebody capacity now. I'm also not sure that IAD has the critical mass to support a SCL flight (though it has been
104 Eastern023 : If AC is doing it, why could UA not?. SCL could use another competitor on the SCL-EZE leg too. The 763 that flies IAD (or ORD)-SCL sits at Ezeiza all
105 Cubsrule : It goes to MVD, but I wonder if SCL might be more profitable... There's a lot less competition on the tag than there once was (no more LH or AF). If
106 Eastern023 : Does UA fly JFK-EZE too?.
107 Cubsrule : No, so if they want to add an EZE-SCL flight, they either have to cut MVD or add another EZE flight (though I think that when they get more widebody
108 Arcano : But more flights than ever and cheaper fares. Now you fly to Buenos Aires for about US$70 (return) But don't they fly to EZE from MIA and IAD? there
109 Cubsrule : Just IAD now. Quite true on the fare front, but I'm not so sure that there are actually more seats. LH was a daily 346 toward the end and AF was, IIR
110 MD11junkie : It does every year, in the Summer. This is true on the LH part. However, AF has virtually increased capacity since SCL is now able to fill up a full
111 Eastern023 : SCL-CDG AF is now nonstop some days. I think it wouldgo daily soon. This will indeed reude even further the SCL-EZE seat stock available. UA should m
112 Cubsrule : Yeah, AF has more capacity in SCL, but no capacity on SCL-EZE now.
113 RJ_Delta : Air France has discontinued its flight between SCL and EZE. Now serves 5 non stop weekly flights between SCL and CDG, using a Boeing 777-200ER.
114 Eastern023 : It would be interesting to see if UA monitors the South American market or is in its thoughts to expand back to where it was before 9/11. LIM and SCL
115 Eastern023 : I heard the rumor that NZ is looking into SCL?. With what equipment?.
116 Post contains links RJ_Delta : Yes the is a strong rumor that Air New Zealand could starts flights to SCL in 2010, using a Boeing 787. Here is a comment in my blog (spanish only): h
117 Eastern023 : SCL could be the gateway to Australia and NZ. Thats very cool. The sooner the better.
118 MD11junkie : If and only if, ETOPS 207 (or 330?) is approved. So far, the only plane that can fly over the south pacific in NZ's fleet is the Boeing 747-400. Gast
119 Eastern023 : 787 cannot do the trick?. If 747-400 is the choice maybe the route would be AKL-SCL-GRU
120 MD11junkie : The 787 suffers of the same problem as the 777 in the South Pacific, it's a twin. Only 3 or more engined planes can fly over the South Pacific, that'
121 Eastern023 : I feel like SCL could become the South American gateway for the whole South Pacific. I believe now SCL even has an airport hotel. This is great for co
122 Arcano : Yeah, a Holiday In Express, along with many facilities upgrades over there... Regards )(
123 Eastern023 : I can defenetely see a better future for SCL.
124 PU752 : Actually theres not, I wish though, theres no hotel in ANY airport in southern South America though.
125 Eastern023 : WRONG!. It is being finished. I saw it when I was there in Jan 07. It should be finished in a couple of months. Is a Holiday Inn express, right in fr
126 Post contains images Acontador : No problem, we are here to serve !
127 Eastern023 : I actually saw the building being built last Sunday at the Amazing Race. They stopped at SCL and raced downtown and back again. This Sunday they will
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