Air Canada announced today that it is introducing non-stop service on three new routes for Atlantic Canada, connecting Halifax and New York City, Deer Lake (NL) and Toronto, and Halifax and Edmonton. The new daily flights will commence this spring.
-The introduction of daily, year-round service April 1 between Halifax and LaGuardia will facilitate travel between the Atlantic provinces and the great destination of New York City.
-Starting May 4, Air Canada will further enhance service in western Newfoundland by offering the only daily non-stop service year-round between Deer Lake and Toronto.
-Finally, on June 15, Air Canada will begin seasonal daily service between
Halifax and Edmonton, complementing our existing Halifax-Calgary service. The
Edmonton service will operate until September 16."
-The Halifax-New York, LaGuardia service will be operated by Air Canada
Jazz using a 50-seat Bombardier CRJ regional aircraft. Flights will depart
Halifax at 11:45 a.m. and arrive in New York at 12:30 p.m. They will leave
New York at 1 p.m. and arrive in Halifax at 3:40 p.m.
-The Deer Lake-Toronto service will be operated by Air Canada using a
120-seat Airbus A319, featuring our Executive Class service. Flights will
depart Toronto at 2:55 p.m. and arrive in Deer Lake at 7:05 p.m. They will
leave Deer Lake at 7:55 p.m. and arrive in Toronto at 9:18 p.m. The new route
will complement existing daily year-round service from Deer Lake to Montreal
and Halifax.
-The Halifax-Edmonton service will also be operated by Air Canada using an
Airbus A319. Flights will depart Edmonton at 10:30 p.m. and arrive at Halifax
at 6:10 a.m. They will leave Halifax at 8:10 a.m. and arrive at Edmonton at
10:30 a.m.
Does anyone know if AC intends to continue to fly between YHZ and EWR?
Yegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1679 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4190 times:
wow....YEG is getting so many flights!!! I wish AC could run more flights from YEG to the US though...
Salomon From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4148 times:
Great news! I wonder why AC dosent start those new routes with the E190 instead of the A319. I guess the demand is there or not enough E190s have arrived.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21238 posts, RR: 19 Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4130 times:
The growth at YHZ isn't real surprising. LGA is probably a better airport for O&D to NY than is EWR, and having preclearance now makes this flight possible. I wonder if ORD-YHZ could work. AC and UA serve quite a few Canadian cities from ORD...
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9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1342 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3957 times:
WS operated YHZ-YEG as a seasonal service last year for the first time. I suspect AC looked at the market and decided it wanted in on the action. It certainly looks like the domestic market is becoming "Monkey see,monkey do". AC has this past winter cloned a lot of the seasonal trans-border winter schedule WS operates,so one suspects they intend on giving them a run for their money. It should shape up to be an interesting month as both carriers start to announce new services for the summer schedule starting April 1st. It should be interesting to see how the YDF-YYZ service preforms in the off season,no doubt there must be potential as they have recently upgraded the current YDF-YUL from a CRJ705 to an A319. I'm reasonably confident they can sustain the YHZ-LGA route with a CRJ200 as it will likely generate a fair amount of O&D traffic and the opening of a US pre-clearance facility at YHZ must make this rather timely.
Connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 3857 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3951 times:
Quoting Salomon (Reply 2): Great news! I wonder why AC dosent start those new routes with the E190 instead of the A319. I guess the demand is there or not enough E190s have arrived.
Not sure the E190 has the legs for YHZ - YEG, esp. into a headwind.
What is up with all the new service at Deer Lake, though ?
Yegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1679 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3935 times:
YHZ-YEG will be operated on a seasonal basis by WJ and AC.
ZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1922 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3915 times:
Seeing how there are alot of flights coming out of YHZ these days, what are the possibilities of a YHZ-YVR flight. AC used to fly this awhile ago with the 762 (Long while ago). I would think a 319 has the legs for it, doubt a E175 or E190 though.
CXH From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3737 times:
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 5): What is up with all the new service at Deer Lake, though ?
Quite simply, CanJet ceased scheduled operations in early September and by now AC has probably figured out there's enough demand for more capacity. It varied a bit, but CanJet had at least two 735 flights into YDF daily in 2006 and maybe three. I think it was two to YHZ (and continuing on elsewhere ...) and one daily to YYZ and back.
Or maybe they're bulking up to discourage WestJet from expanding into YDF?
Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 7): Seeing how there are alot of flights coming out of YHZ these days, what are the possibilities of a YHZ-YVR flight. AC used to fly this awhile ago with the 762 (Long while ago). I would think a 319 has the legs for it, doubt a E175 or E190 though.
AC operated YVR-YHZ non-stop with a 319 for a year or so. I actually flew both ways back in the summer of 2001 (2002?). I think flying time was about six hours. If I recall, the plane was only half full both ways and this was in the middle of summer. So maybe the demand just isn't there, what with a zillion AC connections via YYZ.
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3663 times:
Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 1): wow....YEG is getting so many flights!!! I wish AC could run more flights from YEG to the US though...
The demand really isn't there, particularly when you consider that the airlines can connect people at YYC and YVR in the West and YYZ in the East. The big reason for the ramp up of Maritime-Alberta traffic is all the workers that go from Eastern Canada to the Oil Sands
Quoting Salomon (Reply 2): Great news! I wonder why AC dosent start those new routes with the E190 instead of the A319. I guess the demand is there or not enough E190s have arrived.
It is part demand but also a big part range.
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 5): What is up with all the new service at Deer Lake, though ?
Again, a lot of Westward movement for Eastern Canadians
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ZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1922 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3625 times:
Quoting CXH (Reply 8):
AC operated YVR-YHZ non-stop with a 319 for a year or so. I actually flew both ways back in the summer of 2001 (2002?). I think flying time was about six hours. If I recall, the plane was only half full both ways and this was in the middle of summer. So maybe the demand just isn't there, what with a zillion AC connections via YYZ.
Hey thanks for that, I was not aware. I know you can connect through YYZ, but i just like seeing my home airport getting more direct flights . Perhaps one day they will try again, connect these two wonderful cities.
AC operated YVR-YHZ non-stop with a 319 for a year or so. I actually flew both ways back in the summer of 2001 (2002?). I think flying time was about six hours. If I recall, the plane was only half full both ways and this was in the middle of summer. So maybe the demand just isn't there, what with a zillion AC connections via YYZ.
Hey thanks for that, I was not aware. I know you can connect through YYZ, but i just like seeing my home airport getting more direct flights Wink. Perhaps one day they will try again, connect these two wonderful cities.
I believe the main reason for acquiring the A319 w/o the binned baggage system in the belly was to ensure the a/c was light enough to make the YHZ-YVR run into a winter headwind. Makes the a/c more labour intensive on the ground though. Too bad since it seems they're not going to be doing YHZ-YVR.
The 319 occasionally tech stops on YUL-SFO/LAX as well.
Wolsingerjet From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 348 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3408 times:
Demand for YEG-YHZ is there as the demand has increased with the high numbers of people from atlantic canada living in Alberta,aswell as the ''vagrant'' worker market...Alberta is really a boom or bust market in general for all cities within the province...As it is very oil dependent,although it will continue to boom for many years to come as forcasted...
Tennisace From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 217 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3208 times:
With YDF-YYZ becoming year-round, I would bet that YDF-YUL will be downsized to a CRJ705 or a CRJ200 in the fall. Good to see resumption of some old routes.....YDF-YYZ and YHZ-NYC
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24 Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3151 times:
Quoting CXH (Reply 8): AC operated YVR-YHZ non-stop with a 319 for a year or so. I actually flew both ways back in the summer of 2001 (2002?). I think flying time was about six hours.
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 11): I believe the main reason for acquiring the A319 w/o the binned baggage system in the belly was to ensure the a/c was light enough to make the YHZ-YVR run into a winter headwind. Makes the a/c more labour intensive on the ground though. Too bad since it seems they're not going to be doing YHZ-YVR.
YHZ-YVR is only 97 miles shorter than YHZ-LHR -- 2760 vs. 2857 (statute miles).
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24 Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3081 times:
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 15): Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
YHZ-YVR is only 97 miles shorter than YHZ-LHR -- 2760 vs. 2857 (statute miles).
Your point being ?
It was just an observation, related to other comments re AC using (or in the case of YHZ-YVR, having used in the past) the A319 on some fairly long sectors. YHZ-YVR is also 55 miles further than YVR-HNL.
Connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 3857 posts, RR: 13 Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3068 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16): It was just an observation, related to other comments re AC using (or in the case of YHZ-YVR, having used in the past) the A319 on some fairly long sectors. YHZ-YVR is also 55 miles further than YVR-HNL.
AC have never used the A319 YHZ-LHR. They _plan_ to use it YYT-LHR this spring. That's only 2012 nm. YHZ-YVR is 2399 nm.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24 Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3047 times:
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 17): AC have never used the A319 YHZ-LHR. They _plan_ to use it YYT-LHR this spring. That's only 2012 nm. YHZ-YVR is 2399 nm.
Didn't intend to imply that AC had any plans to use the A319 YHZ-LHR. It was just a comparison to indicate that YHZ-YVR, where they have used the A319 in the past, is almost as far as YHZ-LHR. Not everyone is familiar with Canadian geography.
YOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2967 times:
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 5): What is up with all the new service at Deer Lake, though ?
AC's flights are pretty much replacing CanJet and keeping WestJet out.
Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 7): Seeing how there are alot of flights coming out of YHZ these days, what are the possibilities of a YHZ-YVR flight. AC used to fly this awhile ago with the 762 (Long while ago). I would think a 319 has the legs for it, doubt a E175 or E190 though.
Quoting CXH (Reply 8): So maybe the demand just isn't there, what with a zillion AC connections via YYZ.
Plus a few more via YOW and YUL as well as the daily direct 1-stop via YYC.
WS had better look to the east for their next round of expansion or they'll be relegated to being a bit player. Their market share in the Atlantic provinces must be under 10%. It's rather puzzling why they still haven't announced YOW-YHZ and YUL-YHZ.
I've wondered the same thing. I was sure they would have already commenced services on those routes,though I accept it may have been too late once C6 dropped it's scheduled services as WS may have already committed their aircraft for the winter schedule. There must be more to the story?
Connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 3857 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2840 times:
Quoting 9252fly (Reply 20): I've wondered the same thing. I was sure they would have already commenced services on those routes,though I accept it may have been too late once C6 dropped it's scheduled services as WS may have already committed their aircraft for the winter schedule. There must be more to the story?
I think WS are going like gangbusters YVR/YYC - YYZ, so they'll follow the $$$. As more -600s come in 2007, you might see some bulking up in Atlantic Canada. I don't think YUL-YHZ is a major route, even for AC, but YOW-YHZ sees substantial government-driven traffic, often at the top rate, so yields can be good.
As the E190s continue to arrive at AC, I wonder if we'll see YWG-YHZ ? That was noted on a PowerPoint presentation I saw a while back as a 'future route'.
Also YOW-YYT ?
Yes, I agree the C6 withdrawal is most likely the reason for AC's increased service level.
Salomon From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2733 times:
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 21): As the E190s continue to arrive at AC, I wonder if we'll see YWG-YHZ ? That was noted on a PowerPoint presentation I saw a while back as a 'future route'.
Also YOW-YYT ?
Yea, I was wondering the same thing. YHM-YHZ was also on there. On a side note, was Canjet doing well on their YYT-YQM leg or was it mostly people going all the way to YYZ?
Bmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2081 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2685 times:
Just checked aircanada.ca, AC dropped YHZ-EWR last year, sorry....
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25 Jayce: YVR-YHZ would be an interesting route for WS to explore, as the 736 has the range for it. Though I would imagine that they would have to rely heavily
26 Yegbey01: Also...keep in mind that WestJet will run YEG-YHZ during the summer as well
27 Wolsingerjet: Westjet will continue its daily YEG-YHZ nonstop using a 737-700,the AC flight will use a A319 daily aswell.I have heared that Westjet may add a second
28 Yyz717: WS has no more 736's on order. 12 73G's and 2 738's are on order for delivery 2007-2009 including 6 73G's for delivery this year. WS has 13 736's and
29 YOW: Isn't it strange how WS don't have any YUL-YEG or YOW-YEG nonstops given both those markets must be about double the size of YHZ-YEG. That is probabl
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