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Frontier Awards Jet Express To Republic  
User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25357 posts, RR: 49
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8975 times:

News inside Republic tonight is that they were awarded the Frontier Jet Express flying contract utilizing up to 17 EMB170s.

Anyone hear more?


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User currently offlineGEG2RAP From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 851 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8978 times:

good choice with the E-170 love those little jets. Critters will look cute on them
Great couple years for Rjet (the stock)


User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8942 times:

That would be incredibly intriguing if that be the case. Republic Airlines E170s, though operated under different certification, are owned by Republic Airways Holdings, which also owns Shuttle America, which provides E170 regional jet service as United Express for Frontier's largest competitor, United Airlines. If the rumor is true, the Republic Airways family of carriers will have contracts with:

American Airlines (dba American Connection) - Chautauqua
Continental Airlines (dba Continental Connection/Express) - Chautauqua
Delta Air Lines (dba Delta Connection) - Chautauqua/Shuttle America
Frontier Airlines (dba Frontier JetExpress) - Republic Airlines
United Airlines (dba United Express) - Chautauqua/Shuttle America
USAirways (dba USAirways Express) - Republic Airlines

All that's missing is Northwest, and who knows, they might get that contract too!


User currently offlineB6WNQX From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8920 times:

Do you think that if they are indeed going to utilize the E170's that they would install IFE? I know that it would be harder to justify the $5 for passengers when the flights are generally less than 2-3 hours, but it would be a way for them to more uniformally operate between mainline and express except the Q400's.

How hard would it be for LiveTV(B6) to get the E170 certified for the IFE since the E190 is already certified?

I think it would be absolutely great for them to utilize the E170's.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8675 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8907 times:

Congrats on the contract. Seems very cool. I wonder if these flights will be a junior or senior bid.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8868 times:

Just something to think about ... I haven't heard a thing about Shuttle America retaining or being awarded new flying for Delta Connection.

Republic is about to begin the delivery of 30 E-175s (brand-new) for USAirways.

Shuttle America flies 17 E-170s for Delta Connection.

The Republic Airlines FAM is written for two-class configuration and one-class configuration.

The S5 -170s are in two-class configuration.

Where is RW going to find 17 E-170s in any short amount of time??

Hopefully they will be brand-new  Smile But you never know!!

Just wanted to get some wheels spinning...

Anyone see whats up with the Shuttle America flying in Delta's RFP?? I haven't heard anything...



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User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8734 times:

Shuttle just got DOT approval to start Kingston, Jamaica service for DL. So at least for the time being we arent leaving DL.

Drw


User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8570 times:

Quoting Drewwright (Reply 6):
So at least for the time being we arent leaving DL.

Good to hear   Still no official word on this yet, as far as I can see so its all just speculation, anyway!

[Edited 2007-01-06 13:18:14]


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User currently offlineNW7E7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8558 times:

When are these JetExpress E-170's supposedly going to start flying?

User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8541 times:

Quoting B6WNQX (Reply 3):
I know that it would be harder to justify the $5 for passengers when the flights are generally less than 2-3 hours, but it would be a way for them to more uniformally operate between mainline and express except the Q400's.

I thought only the Q400s were only for the local flights.. Can't JetExpress travel farther than the connecting states? Perhaps I'm just confused..



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User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8419 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 9):
I thought only the Q400s were only for the local flights.. Can't JetExpress travel farther than the connecting states? Perhaps I'm just confused..

The RJ's currently are used for flights to LIT, FAT, GEG, etc. The Q400's will be used for flights less than 750 miles from their destination. Two different types of service and target markets.


User currently offlineDdurr1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8379 times:

I work for Republic, and the news is definitely true. We'll be starting the flying around March 1.

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8162 times:

Quoting Ytib (Reply 10):
The RJ's currently are used for flights to LIT, FAT, GEG, etc

FAT is going mainline after Mon Jan 8 as part of the switch. It will be interesting to see what happens at Fresno. Will it stay mainline, get a mix of mainline and JetExpress or go back to all JetExpress.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5050 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8151 times:

Quoting B6WNQX (Reply 3):
Do you think that if they are indeed going to utilize the E170's that they would install IFE? I know that it would be harder to justify the $5 for passengers when the flights are generally less than 2-3 hours, but it would be a way for them to more uniformally operate between mainline and express except the Q400's.

How hard would it be for LiveTV(B6) to get the E170 certified for the IFE since the E190 is already certified?

I think it would be absolutely great for them to utilize the E170's.

I doubt it, although it sure would be nice. Horizon does not have their CR7's updated with the IFE that F9 offers.



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User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8117 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12):
FAT is going mainline after Mon Jan 8 as part of the switch. It will be interesting to see what happens at Fresno. Will it stay mainline, get a mix of mainline and JetExpress or go back to all JetExpress.

With the new Airbus schedule for FAT, I think they would want some JetExpress to return. There are also some new Airbus aircraft joining the fleet in around 5 or 6 weeks. However I believe those will assist with the new West Coast Mexico service starting in March.

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 13):
I doubt it, although it sure would be nice. Horizon does not have their CR7's updated with the IFE that F9 offers.

I wonder if this is something which could be included as part of the contract. When the CRJ contract with QX was developed F9 was not a pure Airbus fleet, and didn't have IFE across their mainline fleet. There was also some rush with the departure of Mesa to United, which was a good thing.

With JetBlue doing the E190 IFE there should be some commonality with the E170 systems. However just like the A318 I would imagine this would require some time for FAA approval.


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25246 posts, RR: 85
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8002 times:
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However "true" it may be, it is still a rumor until it is officially confirmed.

I very hope it is true, and, once again, Frontier hinted at it in the early stages - 9/20/2006:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...4-90b7-a94784af71a4&displaylang=en

"Republic, Mesa, Air Wisconsin - there's a ton of companies" that fly regional jets, Hodas said. "We don't have any concern" about finding a replacement."

Yeah, Joe, but Mesa was a bad experience and Air Wisconsin didn't have any spare 70 seaters.

And it was Joe who also hinted at the E170:

"Frontier is open to carriers with other 70-seat planes as well, such as the Embraer 170, Hodas said."

I love those hints Frontier drops - they usually come true.

Question: will all 17 be based at DEN?

 Smile

mariner



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5050 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7920 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 15):
Yeah, Joe, but Mesa was a bad experience and Air Wisconsin didn't have any spare 70 seaters.

And it was Joe who also hinted at the E170:

"Frontier is open to carriers with other 70-seat planes as well, such as the Embraer 170, Hodas said."

I love those hints Frontier drops - they usually come true.

Question: will all 17 be based at DEN?

Smile

mariner

I would imagine they would, but I have a good feeling that we might see some expansions in LAX and SFO out of this. I would like to see F9 focus a little out of DEN, as the recent weather issues might be a reason for them to do this. The rumor of STL might be a little hotter than we might think.


Anybody care to do a little critter work on an E170? I know there are some photoshop pros out there that can make that wish come true!!!  Smile



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User currently offlineGarri767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7913 times:

Good job Republic. Now start some AMA Service  duck  (yes, im just kidding, i know theres no way that would happen, dont flame me  Silly)

User currently offlineNW7E7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7711 times:

Now will F9 still have a contract with with QX or will they be completely replaced by Republic?

User currently offlinePtharris From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 282 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7552 times:

Quoting NW7E7 (Reply 18):
Now will F9 still have a contract with with QX or will they be completely replaced by Republic?

Yeah, same question I have. Is QX out of the picture now? Or is it Eastern United States OPS they got awarded?



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User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7509 times:

QX and F9 mutually agreed to ending QX's JetExpress contract so QX could move the aircraft over to the Alaska system. This announcement, if, in fact, true - would be for replacement of QX and additional growth for the JetExpress program (QX has 9 planes I believe...) to be flown by Republic Airlines.

Lets wait and see! Still no official word...



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User currently offlineEagle11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7165 times:

Should be great for Frontier. I agree that the E170 will be a great match for the fleet and the routes that they hope to serve.

Would they consider sending some of these planes on thinner international routes to Mexico to help develop their presence there, or would these planes continue to be utilized as they are now?



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User currently offlineKuna From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 279 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7104 times:

Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 2):
All that's missing is Northwest, and who knows, they might get that contract too!

What contract? Pinnacle signed a new ASA and NW is looking to by Mesaba which will continue to fly under the NW Airlink banner...



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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7085 times:

All jets will be based in DEN. However our bid posting said not to disclose any info as there is no official press release out.


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User currently offlineBahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1787 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6559 times:

republic and skywest are becoming the biggest regionals in there.. i guess this RFP bullchips are going to make the other majors to go to the cheapest is killing the industry.
And for my brothers in Skywest that got 0% increase in Brasilia, good luck for next 5 years. i just hope the inflation will be -% so that you can actually get a raise.



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25 MSYtristar : Perhaps now we'll see F9 return to New Orleans with the introduction of the E70's!
26 Stirling : And so far, I don't like the way it looks. It doesn't appear as if they have figured out what to do with Fresno... This means now the only flight, wh
27 Ytib : Nothing has been determined at this time, as this is not even official. Part of the problem currently are the two CRJ's removed from the system thus
28 Post contains images FATFlyer : A minimum of 2 daily flights will make more sense and I expect that they will return to that. Jan and Feb are very low boarding months at FAT, typica
29 Mariner : That's a bit of a rush to judgement. Since they don't yet have the E170's - and have lost 2 x CR7's back to Horizon - I don't see how they can do wha
30 Penguinflies : That's great for Republic, GoJet was rumoring to be trying for more CRJ flying outside of United Express.
31 Wedgetail737 : Maybe F9 Express will return to OAK with the 170's. One can only wish.
32 CentPIT : I'm pretty sure that Chautauqua operates under the US Express banner as well?
33 Post contains images Ddurr1 :
34 Post contains images AirplaneBoy : Just a clarification since many people are confusing JetExpress and Express: Frontier Express will be strictly operated by FRNT Holdings' Lynx Aviati
35 KstateinALB : Quick question- What would be the limits on cities in terms of how far the E-170 can go? Could these open up new markets in the Northeast?
36 MSYtristar : Figure a good 3.5 hour range for the 170's. Cities like RDU/CLT/PIT/MSY could be good candidates for the jets.
37 ERJ170 : Will the E70s have weight restrictions like the CR7 has? That should be a big concern as to whether CLT, PIT, and RDU would see E70 or 319s. I still
38 KcrwFlyer : The E70 Shouldnt have the weight restrictions on RDU-DEN but I could be wrong.
39 S5FA170 : The 170 will go 6 hours (give or take) non-stop. I've done JFK-AUS in 5 hours and 40 minutes due to headwinds.
40 Post contains images Tripleboom : I would doubt that F9 would send any a/c to OAK given the newly diversified SFO (LAX and LAS). Not to mention they don't need to provoke WN anywhere
41 CRJ900X : Any Ideas when we can expect an official announcement by either Frontier or Republic? Cheers, CRJ900X
42 Jdwfloyd : That is where they got their start, and I doubt they will ever drop out of US's system. But from what I heard they may go down to 10-15 ERJ 145s in t
43 ScottB : What no one seems to have addressed is the fact that Republic Airways Holdings is somewhat restricted in providing service at United hubs. From the co
44 Logos : I'm pretty sure that's the point of having 3 different operating certificates under one corporate banner. Cheers, Dave in Orlando
45 ABQ747 : They better not use those on the DEN-ABQ route.
46 FutureFO : In the next few months our USX E145 fleet will be down to 9 planes. The rest are going to the COEX contract.
47 Hawaiian717 : You'd love them. Great planes; I'd take one any day over the CRJ-700 that F9/QX flew to ABQ when I lived there.
48 ABQ747 : I'm sure they are nice, but F9 should bring in larger aircraft to better compete with UA. United even brought in 757s during the Balloon Fiesta. I wo
49 S5FA170 : The non-compete clause is only for Shuttle America and Chautauqua Airlines. Furthermore, unlike most other airline's contracts - the UA contracts do n
50 FutureFO : And now DL's scope allows 76 seats as the SKYW CR9's are going to get configured that way.
51 Post contains links Tripleboom : Denver Post is jumping on the rumor band wagon now with a mention of ExpressJet as well. http://www.denverpost.com/airlines/ci_4974731
52 Eagle11 : That's very impressive and should open up a lot more opportunities for F9 in the future. They could also be used to help develop some more east coast
53 Mariner : I hope not. Based on CEO Potter's comments, I would look for more western and international expansion. mariner
54 Post contains links and images FATFlyer : Such as Costa Rica and Jamaica? "Believe it or not, we've had discussions with Jamaica over the past two to three years," Potter said. Costa Rica is
55 Hawaiian717 : The Q400 isn't a tiny prop.
56 Gigneil : I know it is unreasonable, but it'd be awfully nice to get some feeder service down to COS... for those in Teller and southern El Paso, a 2 or more ho
57 Post contains links Loggat : http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070111/20070111005592.html?.v=1 INDIANAPOLIS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Republic Airways Holdings (NASDAQ:RJET - News), announced today
58 Fiveholer : Awesome...I wonder if TUL will see the ERJ170 from Denver? We have 3x daily CRJ700s now I believe unless it has changed. Danny
59 ERJ170 : who wants to see me? or are you talking about the EMB170? I can make an appearance if need be, now..
60 Stirling : I was referring to the Express carrier, not the aircraft. Two flights is preferrable to one, that is my point.
61 Mariner : I understood that. I agree with it, and I am sure Frontier would. But if they don't have the aircraft they can't do it. There's always UAX. mariner
62 KingCavalier : Career Builder shows TUL as being a Lynx city. So, look for the Q400's. As far as a city that currently has mainline A319's, I would expect to see IN
63 Post contains links KingCavalier : Nice preview of the EMB170 in Frontier's livery http://prn.newscom.com/cgi-bin/pub/s...tos-59105&redir=preview&tr=1&row=1
64 Post contains images Garri767 : Sorry for being off topic, but what cities are expected to earn Linx service? those Q400s are going to look nice in that scheme
65 AirEMS : Here is a really stupid question... Is this the same Republic that merged into NW? I know that there is still a Piedmont and I think a PSA within US A
66 Post contains links F9Animal : It is not the Republic that merged with NW. Not sure how it worked out, but they got the name. www.republicairlines.com More info can be found here.
67 AirEMS : Thanks F9Animal thats what I kind of thought but I figured that I should ask.. How does this look from inside F9? -Carl
68 ABQ747 : I was trying to say that it is much smaller than the 737/A319. My main point was that F9 should bring in aircraft that are comparable to what UA brin
69 Garri767 : Well, would this affect AMA/OKC/TUL at all? Maybe Q400s in the future?
70 Post contains images F9Animal : This will open many opportunities for F9. I personally like the choice of aircraft, and I see many new cities coming soon. I can't wait to see what F
71 Fiveholer : Kind of a dissapointment but not totally. I would really love to see the ERJ170 come into Tulsa. I will welcome the Dash though, interesting aircraft
72 Cody : This is not the same Republic company that was bought by Northwest, but it is the same name that the old Republic operated under. Not only in namesake
73 Tripleboom : I have been chatting with a few passengers here in OMA and those folks that regularly fly on our QX CR7s are ecstatic at seeing pictures of the ERJ-17
74 Mariner : Is OMA to be one of the first cities to get the E170? On Travelocity as of the end of March, flights #4930, #4934 and #4938 are not listed as "operat
75 Tripleboom : I see those flights loaded into Sabre listed as CR7s still, but normally they have an asterisk next to them indicating "Operated by Horizon Air." Onl
76 FutureFO : There is no emergency exit row on the E170.
77 ORDZW : From information received today from our scheduling department, it appears that the breakdown will be as follows: Frontier JetExpress operated by Hori
78 Post contains images Tripleboom : As of March 15th these are the flight numbers for JetExpress flights for current JetExpress cities: OMA - DEN: 4939 - Republic 4937 - Republic 4933 -
79 NW7E7 : So when is QX going to completely stop flying for F9?
80 ABQopsHP : Just a heads up there ABQ747. We (US) do F9s ground handling here in ABQ, and have the training matieral for the E170 as well as for the US E190. We q
81 AirplaneBoy : QX and F9 have agreed to slowly withdraw the CR7's from F9 service over the course of this year, with the last jets to leave at the end of 2007. I be
82 Tripleboom : Interesting side note. Interdepartmental memo came out today for F9 just highlighting some of the transitional details. Unlike QX service, Republic op
83 MSYtristar : I've seen some activity at the old F9 offices and ticket counters here in MSY this afternoon...people taking measurements of counter space, examining
84 Mariner : The summer schedule may have quite a few surprises. With 5 x Airbi coming by mid-June plus the Lynx Q400's and the Republic flights, anything could h
85 MSYtristar : You have to love the growth oppurtunities that F9 will see with these new aircraft. You are correct, anything is possible.
86 Floridaflyboy : Same with Billings. Does anyone on here have any information on F9's thoughts about Billings? During the winter they go down to one daily flight that
87 DTWAGENT : I would love to fly on the E-170's. We where to fly on one but US change aircraft on the DTW/PHL route and I got stuck on a CRJ-200. Ye ha. Question?
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