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RG's Vintage L-188  
User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2630 posts, RR: 23
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

I remember that at the time RG retired the L-188's, one of those aircraft went to a museum. I do not remember if that was RG's own "company museum" or if it went to some other "outside" source.

If indeed they do have their own company museum does anyone know anything about its disposition?
Or, maybe certain of its vintage aircraft are spead about at various museum's around the country?

Also, I wonder who will control RG's archives?


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User currently offlineS.p.a.s. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1884 times:

Hi IE,

One L-188 (PP-VJM) was placed at the Aeronautics Museum located at Campo dos Afonsos AFB (Rio de Janeiro) and all the other were sold abroad, mainly to Africa and IIRC, to Canada. It seems that Varig's Dragon Rapide was also inherited by this same museum.

Varig has one small museum at Porto Alegre, attached to what used to be their maintenance centre down there, but the only aircraft there is a Douglas DC-3 plus lots of memorabilia dating back to the 50s (I had access to part of it in the past and it is well preserved). With all this turnmoil the fortunes of this items is not certain.

On a side note, I have it from a reliable source that most of their photographic archives were lost due improper storage and care. These archives were at Rio de Janeiro Santos Dumont airport, in a humid basement. Hardly a place to keep 40+ years old slides  boggled 

Unfortunately, historical preservation in Brazil, in all aspects, not only aviation, is not something seen very seriously.

Brgds

RS



"ad astra per aspera"
User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8969 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

Quoting ImperialEagle (Thread starter):
I remember that at the time RG retired the L-188's, one of those aircraft went to a museum.

Varig does have a DC-3 on display at POA, but I don't know about any Electras. When Varig retired them they sold them to Zaire.

They do have a museum, but I think it's something small. Mostly early aircraft engines, mock-ups, models of RG's fleet, and a DC-3 and B733 cockpit.

edit: Spas beat me to it! Forgot about the Electra at SDU!

[Edited 2007-01-06 17:17:37]


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User currently offlineBaron95 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1335 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1700 times:

Lots of questions if someone has the time to answer:

When exactly did they stopped flying the Electras? Was the last service the SDU-CGH shuttle? How many seats did it have? Did the other companies flying the shuttle back then (Vasp ???) also flew Electras?

I think I rmember taking a shuttle flight in the late 80s in an Electra - is that possible?

Where is Campo dos Afonsos? Is that near GIG? There is an airforce prop plane near the entrace to the airbase near GIG (next to the Hertz facility). Is that an Electra?

Thanks.



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User currently offlineS.p.a.s. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Hi Baron95...

Turns out I have the time ...  Smile

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 3):
When exactly did they stopped flying the Electras?Was the last service the SDU-CGH shuttle?

The date was 05.JAN.1992 for scheduled flights. Some farewell flights were made on 06.JAN.1992, though. 15 years and 1 day ago.

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 3):
How many seats did it have? Did the other companies flying the shuttle back then (Vasp ???) also flew Electras?

Seating was around 90 seats, but sometimes this was limited due performance reasons. All the Electras were operated in pool by Varig, Vasp and TransBrasil, with RG/QD(later TR) and VP flight numbers, but the crew members were all Varig.

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 3):
Where is Campo dos Afonsos? Is that near GIG? There is an airforce prop plane near the entrace to the airbase near GIG (next to the Hertz facility). Is that an Electra?

Campo dos Afonsos is not very far from GIG, actually you fly-by it when on approach to GIG runway 10. GoogleEarth tells me the straight line between them is around 10 miles.

Has been a while since I went outside GIG, but there's no Electra at the air force base, probably a HS748.

Brgds

RS



"ad astra per aspera"
User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7700 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1554 times:

Does anyone know the reg of the B737 by any chance?.

Also is there any possibility that this is the same L188 that appeared as Drax Airfreight in Moonraker?.


User currently offlineJJMNGR From Brazil, joined May 2004, 1018 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1491 times:

Although a pool of operation between RG,VP and TR, the call sign of the flights was always RG6..

The flights of shuttle service were operated by 03 flight figures and started always with 6.


User currently offlineVC10DC10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1037 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

Quoting S.p.a.s. (Reply 4):

Wow! Electras flying passengers in the 90s! Bravo VARIG!

As you can tell from my username, I'm in favor of flying the oldies.  smile 


User currently offlineAntiuser From Italy, joined May 2004, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 2):
Varig does have a DC-3 on display at POA

If I recall correctly, the DC-3 was actually owned by an association of RG employees, painted in the old RG livery. They used to take tourists and enthusiasts on sightseeing flights, with flight attendants and pilots wearing the vintage uniforms.


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User currently offlineMohavewolfpup From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

Quoting S.p.a.s. (Reply 1):
Unfortunately, historical preservation in Brazil, in all aspects, not only aviation, is not something seen very seriously.

you just described pretty much everything on this planet. history and the care for it is always the first things to go when a corporation is allowed to run rampant. This is why there is so little history left in alot of areas anymore.

sure it's easy to preserve a 8000 year old castle, but even those fall victim to yuppy luxury condos.

I'm fearful of what happens to planes in the jet age here. look at how so many classics (B29's, etc) have been crushed and cut up, and we have some DC10's angling for the wrecker also.

by the time the plane is heavily used and abused by the airlines, it's a rolling wreck and I imagine restoring it is hell.

if finding a period gun for a B29 is a pain, imagine if someone wanted to restore a 707 (assuming any are left) and find original seats, pillows, safety cards, flash lights, etc for it.


User currently offlineVC10DC10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1037 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1391 times:

Quoting Mohavewolfpup (Reply 9):

... yet somehow some people do it. http://www.abc.net.au/westqld/stories/s1816127.htm?backyard

Cheers


User currently offlineMohavewolfpup From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

Quoting VC10DC10 (Reply 10):
... yet somehow some people do it. http://www.abc.net.au/westqld/stories/s1816127.htm?backyard

Cheers

original down to the last engine or butchered?


User currently offlineVC10DC10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1037 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1378 times:

Don't know. Personally, I'll take "not perfect, but pretty darn good and here you are" over elysian perfection that we just won't achieve in this life.

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