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Help: Identify This 747 At Kandahar  
User currently offlineAirAmericaC46 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9468 times:

Being a 747 fan myself, I was trying to google hajj flights using 747s to add to my record of all 747 flights and this website came out:

www.defendamerica.mil/articles/mar2003/a032203b.html

This 747 appears to be one of the 2 donated by UA to Ariana and appears to have flown Kandahar to Jeddah hajj flights. I presume it also flew Kabul-Jeddah. Anybody knows it if flew hajj to Herat and Mazar-i-Sharif as well?
And so what happened to these 2 747s? Did FG eventually sell them? Did FG used it for other scheduled/charter flights as well?

Thanks for the info.

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User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1745 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9409 times:

Quoting AirAmericaC46 (Thread starter):
This 747 appears to be one of the 2 donated by UA to Ariana

IIRC , they were only 'leased' to FG for the Hajj lights, not 'donated'



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User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2480 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9394 times:

Interesting. The pic in the article suggests that it's not a 744; there aren't any winglets. What gives?!


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9319 times:

Quoting AirAmericaC46 (Thread starter):
This 747 appears to be one of the 2 donated by UA to Ariana

Where can I sign up for a donated plane, I thought only airbus did that for JetBlue, good to see that UA is doing so well they can donate a plane here and there.



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User currently offlineAeroman444 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9243 times:

Thats cause its a 747-200 not a 747-400. Packed completely with economy seats.

User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9014 times:

The aircraft in question is a 747-238B, originally with Qantas, later United. Two were operated for Hadj-flights by different operators in 2003/04. Judging from the engine-pylons I think its the former VH-EBJ, built in 1975. The other aircraft (formerly VH-EBM of 1977) has a later style of engine-pylons (in 1976 Boeing changed the shape), though its pretty hard to judge from this angle.

User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8934 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):

Where can I sign up for a donated plane, I thought only airbus did that for JetBlue

 Yeah sure Booooooring!


User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2951 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8860 times:
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User currently offlineBN727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4629 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):

Where can I sign up for a donated plane, I thought only airbus did that for JetBlue

Rumor has it that Airbus pays for Jetblue fuel bill and payrol for next 7 years. Could they be providng free engines, tires and be paying landing fees as well. Of course I'm strictly being sarcastic here.
If anyone is flying without paying thier bills you ought to look at the legacy carriers hiding out in chapter 11. Not mentioning any names like Delta and Northwest.


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

Quoting NA (Reply 5):
The other aircraft (formerly VH-EBM of 1977) has a later style of engine-pylons (in 1976 Boeing changed the shape)

Didn't know that.
Examples?



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2946 times:

Look at the shape of the PW engine pylons (at the back):

Until 1976 all PW-powered 747s (-100s and -200s) had this straight shape pylons:

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From 1976 onwards (starting with the introduction of the SP) they were standardised like this:

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Notice: some airlines (JAL, Air India and SAA) modified the pylons on earlier aircraft to the later style during the 80s. You´ll see that if you compare photos of aircraft like JA8103, VT-EBN or ZS-SAP.

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