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747 Gear Door Falling Off...  
User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11255 times:

Searched, and didn't see anything...

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/10690659/detail.html

Kalitta Air had a gear door fall off one of their 747s being used on a military charter; it had an emergency landing at LAX ... anyone know which plane this was?

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User currently offlineDavidm33 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11253 times:

It was N717CK ....I was on the hill

User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10886 times:

I seem to remember an engine falling of one of their birds not to long ago over the Great Lakes.

Do they even have a maintenance schedule??



Slower traffic, keep right
User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10764 times:

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 2):
Do they even have a maintenance schedule??

When something falls off, they put a new one on...seems fairly straight-forward to me. What, you don't think that qualifies as a 'schedule'? Oh, um, guess I see your point...  Smile

After hearing about the engine falling off over the Great Lakes, I'm kind of concerned that I might possibly be -under- one of those birds, let alone flying on one.

Lincoln



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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10740 times:

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 2):
I seem to remember an engine falling of one of their birds not to long ago over the Great Lakes.

Do they even have a maintenance schedule??

I was thinking the same thing. What is going on at K4?

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20041028X01714&key=1

M


User currently offlineUPS707 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10711 times:

At least your link specified the door and made it somewhat accurate. The first I heard about it was http://news.yahoo.com/s/kcra/20070108/lo_kcra/10690889 and I was trying to figure out why they pushed on all the way to LA missing 'a door'. Guess it makes sense when you know it's not "The Door"  Smile

User currently offlineMattbna From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 316 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10707 times:

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 2):
I seem to remember an engine falling of one of their birds not to long ago over the Great Lakes.

This is the bird that the engine fell off of:


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...and this is apparently the bird that the gear door fell off of:


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Matt

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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10702 times:

Would be a cool souvenir.

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 2):
I seem to remember an engine falling of one of their birds not to long ago over the Great Lakes.

Would be an even cooler souvenir.


User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10674 times:

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 2):
I seem to remember an engine falling of one of their birds not to long ago over the Great Lakes.

At this rate it Kalitta should change the name to Air Leprosy as it is dropping parts all over the place.

What door was it?


User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1434 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10648 times:

The one that lost the engine was repaired and sitting in mem 4 or 5 days later on a charter,, infact 4 747,s they had were here and one was white..


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User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10628 times:

Quoting Scottieprecord (Thread starter):
Kalitta Air had a gear door fall off one of their 747s

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...3/history/20070107/2014Z/KSUU/KLAX


I wonder if the transponder beacon was attached to the door!



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User currently offlineKATL757 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10257 times:

Here's an image provided by the local online paper. Link to the article is also below:



KCRA.com



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User currently offlineMSPGUY From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10143 times:

Quoting KATL757 (Reply 11):

Man, that would suck too have that fall on you!!!!!



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User currently offlineMemphis From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9950 times:

how did they know that a gear door fell off? did someone from the groud, like ATC see something fall off and let em' know?


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User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1401 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9066 times:
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Quoting Memphis (Reply 13):
how did they know that a gear door fell off? did someone from the groud, like ATC see something fall off and let em' know?

I would guess that the cavity that the gear bay is will produce a rather loud noise when air flows into it that is not supposed to sound with doors closed, and also a warning light that the door is not locked in place, or?



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User currently offlineHelvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8727 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 7):
Would be an even cooler souvenir.

Just don't try to catch it.  ouch 


User currently offlineDH106 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 626 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8509 times:

Looks like a nose gear door


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User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 7202 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8345 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 7):
Would be an even cooler souvenir

Hey, go swimming for it. They think it's only 240 feet deep.



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User currently offlineFlyLKU From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8207 times:

Isn't Kalitta Hungarian for "Look out below!"?


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User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7974 times:
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Quoting KATL757 (Reply 11):

That looks to me to be half of one of the folding main gear doors which cover the fuselage mounted main gear. It looks perfectly rectangular unlike the nose gear doors, which have two 90 degree cuts in their shape. It also has an indention where the wheel would be sitting in its retracted position.



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User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7837 times:
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Wonder where the other half of the door went.



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User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6365 times:

Did anyone actually SEE the door liberate itself from the airplane? Huh?

Just because a Kalitta bird lands without a gear door and there COINCIDENTALLY happens to be a gear door on the ground below the flight path that the plane JUST HAPPENED to be over, why do you ASSUME that you can connect the dots and that the plane and parts belong together?

Pretty presumptuous I think. Hmmmm....


User currently offlineAndrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5570 times:

Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 14):
I would guess that the cavity that the gear bay is will produce a rather loud noise when air flows into it that is not supposed to sound with doors closed, and also a warning light that the door is not locked in place, or?

I know that in the 727/737 cockpits, we hear every sound from the nose gear and nose gear doors - but I almost doubt they'd hear anything at all in a 747 flight deck. There is quite a bit of metal between the cockpit floor and the nose gear bay, and it's quite a distance too.

Drew



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User currently offlineN867BX From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4956 times:

Quoting Memphis (Reply 13):
how did they know that a gear door fell off? did someone from the groud, like ATC see something fall off and let em' know?

The big red gear door missing light would certainly be luminated.


User currently offlineFlyinround731 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

Quoting Jeffry747 (Reply 20):
Wonder where the other half of the door went.

There's nothing missing from that door, both doors are shaped like that.


25 FlyDreamliner : Good God, and engine? Several tons of steel... that's horrible. I can't imagine what an engine dropped from cruising altitude would do to whatever it
26 Mattbna : Can you imagine sitting out in the lake in a small fishing boat and all of the sudden this smoking heap of metal falls (at an insane speed) out of th
27 Richierich : Considering the door looked pretty intact, I'm sure it has serial numbers or something else on it that can be traced back to Kalitta. That is, of cou
28 B737700doctor : I used to work for these people scary place thats all I have to say!
29 Airfoilsguy : Sure, it could have fell off the UPS truck that was delivering one of my souvenirs that day. I wondered what happened to that order!
30 Trex8 : if something falls off a plane and lands on my property do I have the right to keep it??? (I mean I'l let the FAA, NTSB look at it but do I have to gi
31 Richierich : Just a hunch, but it could be taken by the NTSB or FAA as "evidence" should there be legalities later on. I would think the homeowner does not have o
32 Lincoln : I mean, it's not quite as clear-cut as the peice of airplane with FEDEX painted on it that landed in someone's front yard (and was then picked up by
33 ExBAga : Saw on a TV news clip that the door had a JAL tag with serial numbers on it. Most of Kalitta's 747's are ex JAL. Should be easy to trace. exBA ga
34 Post contains images Richierich : I saw that too - I wondered if it really meant "Japan Air Lines" or just coincidentally had JAL in the part number. I mean, why would Boeing put the
35 Mattbna : From the looks of the earliest photos of this aircraft in the database, it was delivered to AA in 1971. It was converted to a freighter (still with A
36 Ammunition : wow, good job no one got injured. off on a tangent, is it only me or are those news websites 90% advertisement and 10% story! Really annoying to see t
37 AerospaceFan : If I were in the business of regulating airlines, if an entire engine fell off an airliner while in flight, I would be very interested in figuring out
38 Iwok : I think what you mean is "Kilatas" which is for a "look out", as in a scenic view. -iwok
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